Diminishing returns
09-08-10 | 04:21 PM
#76
Has coddling tendencies.
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From: Topanga Canyon
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I weigh 170 lbs gringo. Dripping wet. That's not exactly Clydesdale material. Besides which the Addict frame strikes me as fully capable of supporting 200 lb riders on 60 mph descents. It appears to be built like a brick shlithouse, regardless of its feathery weight. It is an impressive bit of CF engineering and design.
Scott just called. They want to know where to send your shill check. Why they called me I have no idea.
09-08-10 | 04:29 PM
#77
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Peloton Shelter Dog
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From: Chester, NY
Bikes: 2017 Scott Foil, 2016 Scott Addict SL, 2018 Santa Cruz Blur CC MTB
09-08-10 | 04:40 PM
#78
Your Recovery Ride Buddy
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From: 24 879.6396 miles behind you
Bikes: 2000 Serotta Classique, 1999 Serotta C3S Atlanta, 2004 Kona Jake the Snake, 2009 Kona Paddywagon, 2006 Kona Kula, 1980's Fuji Pursuit TT Fix/SS conversion, 1980's Torpado Super Strada, Bridgestone RB1 Synergy
Concur. Just put a new 10sp 105 crankset on my CX bike, and besides the 105 chainrings not being hollowtech, the rest of the cranks are just like the Ultegra. Oh and it has a seriously beautiful black finish.
09-08-10 | 04:47 PM
#79
For me, the 80/20 rule applies for any luxury hobby where the first 20% spent gets you 80% there, and you can spend the whole lot more chasing that ultimate 20%. As a recovery audiophile, trust me, I know, and cycling has nothing on audio gears in terms of that "intangibles" only you can hear or feel 
Not really sure what LS3/5a are going for these days but given the title of this thread, I figured it would be appropriate to ignore the $500. limit. OTOH I do seriously miss my LS3/5a, and the 4 or 5 systems I had carefully put together and brutally torn apart in the pursuit of audio nirvana.
09-08-10 | 05:09 PM
#80
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From: The Cloud
Bikes: Retrospec Judd, Dahon Boardwalk, Specialized Langster
I'm kind of surprised a forum that is comprised of people that regularly hear "Shazam, I aint never paid no more than $200 bucks for no bicy-hikle, why'd you wanna do tha-ut?" wouldn't appreciate the choice of prime equipment for a highly competitive activity. Birding is cut-throat.
09-08-10 | 05:16 PM
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09-08-10 | 05:20 PM
#83
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Peloton Shelter Dog
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From: Chester, NY
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09-08-10 | 05:57 PM
#84
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Incorrect. That is what Scott's marketing would have you believe. When you dig further, you find that it's an identical frame, but about 100 grams heavier (900 grams vs. 800) and the fork is 60 grams heavier (390 grams vs. 330 on the R1). Otherwise identical, I'm told they ride the same. Still builds up to a very light, stiff, great feeling and handling racing bike. I like it.
900 grams is very light for a CF race frame boys.
900 grams is very light for a CF race frame boys.
09-08-10 | 09:50 PM
#85
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From: Northern VA
Bikes: Moots Vamoots, Colnago C60, Santa Cruz Stigmata CC, and too many other bikes I don't ride
09-09-10 | 09:23 PM
#88
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From: Boston, MA
Bikes: 2010 Specialized Allez Sport Compact / 2006 Giant Boulder
I'd actually say $1,500 to $1,800 is the sweet spot. Few people (Maybe that Cat 2 guy on Sunday) i know can outride a sweet carbon/alu frame with 105's and decent wheels. Likely even a carbon frame if you know where to look.
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09-10-10 | 06:09 AM
#89
South Carolina Ed
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From: Greer, SC
Bikes: Holdsworth custom, Macario Pro, Ciocc San Cristobal, Viner Nemo, Cyfac Le Mythique, Giant TCR, Tommasso Mondial, Cyfac Etoile
I think so too. That $1700 BD Evoke SL gets raves. The handy can also get there easily by putting a bike together from parts.
09-10-10 | 06:33 AM
#90
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From: Boone, North Carolina
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