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PimpMyBike 08-19-14 07:19 AM

This interesting read will probably be the best $15 investment that saves me lots of $$ on CAAD future upgrades.

Bike weight and the myth of 'fast' bikes - VeloNews.com

Comments?

Leinster 08-19-14 09:27 AM


Originally Posted by PimpMyBike (Post 17050485)
This interesting read will probably be the best $15 investment that saves me lots of $$ on CAAD future upgrades.

Bike weight and the myth of 'fast' bikes - VeloNews.com

Comments?

There's already a whole thread on that article here; http://www.bikeforums.net/road-cycli...ast-bikes.html

TCaad10 08-19-14 09:35 AM


Originally Posted by PimpMyBike (Post 17050485)
This interesting read will probably be the best $15 investment that saves me lots of $$ on CAAD future upgrades.

Bike weight and the myth of 'fast' bikes - VeloNews.com

Comments?

I think I would prefer some titan screws for 15$ 

The whole discussion aero vs weight is nothing new I think. But a light bike makes you feel faster and it's a lot of fun to give your bike a personal touch. It might all be correct what he is writing, but I really don't care about those calculations. I love my Caad and I absolutely love to give her some updates.

And it is much easier to lift my bike into the car 

T.

bianchi10 08-19-14 09:41 AM


Originally Posted by PimpMyBike (Post 17050485)
This interesting read will probably be the best $15 investment that saves me lots of $$ on CAAD future upgrades.

Bike weight and the myth of 'fast' bikes - VeloNews.com

Comments?

This is my opinion to your comment, not so much the article...

That article is well done and all is true. BUT, not everyone upgrades their equipment to make them .08 seconds faster though. Some people like to upgrade simply for the reason of making their bike unique. We are all guilty of upgrading a piece when it comes time to replace. "My 42 inch TV went out so I went out and got a new 55 inch." "Refrigerator went out so I finally took the plunge to get that new style. It holds this much more, it keeps my carrots that much colder." Fact is, as humans, we tend to want bigger and bader'ass things.

I started upgrading my bike with things that broke or wore down. Eventually I became hooked with replacing things because I wanted to. Am I faster now than I was before I ever started upgrading my wheels and tires and bars and seat post...yes. I am faster because those items keep me excited about riding. I will say and agree that JUST getting new wheels or a lighter frame won't always make you faster. It is certainly not needed, but since when do we only get things we need?

Again, great article and reminder that upgrades and super light weight parts won't be the factor that qualifies you for the next TDF, but who doesn't like having nice things. I don't think that article is going to save anyone on this forum from spending their hard earned money on things that won't make us faster.

bianchi10 08-19-14 09:42 AM

double post

Monkey D.Luffy 08-19-14 10:26 AM


Originally Posted by Monkey D.Luffy (Post 17046174)
Hi caadies. I just wanted some opinion on a bike that I have been looking at. It is an used, 2013 caad 10 2 (force) that has fulcrum 3.5 wheelset instead of the stock, a 3t ergo bar, and a 3t stem. It looks to be used but in relatively good condition and I am just wondering what would a cheap/fair price would be for it? Just assume a few hundred miles of normal riding with no issues for the sake of the question.

Anyone want to offer any opinions?

PimpMyBike 08-19-14 10:34 AM


Originally Posted by bianchi10 (Post 17050956)
This is my opinion to your comment, not so much the article...

That article is well done and all is true. BUT, not everyone upgrades their equipment to make them .08 seconds faster though. Some people like to upgrade simply for the reason of making their bike unique. We are all guilty of upgrading a piece when it comes time to replace. "My 42 inch TV went out so I went out and got a new 55 inch." "Refrigerator went out so I finally took the plunge to get that new style. It holds this much more, it keeps my carrots that much colder." Fact is, as humans, we tend to want bigger and bader'ass things.

I started upgrading my bike with things that broke or wore down. Eventually I became hooked with replacing things because I wanted to. Am I faster now than I was before I ever started upgrading my wheels and tires and bars and seat post...yes. I am faster because those items keep me excited about riding. I will say and agree that JUST getting new wheels or a lighter frame won't always make you faster. It is certainly not needed, but since when do we only get things we need?

Again, great article and reminder that upgrades and super light weight parts won't be the factor that qualifies you for the next TDF, but who doesn't like having nice things. I don't think that article is going to save anyone on this forum from spending their hard earned money on things that won't make us faster.

My intentions were not to piss in your cornflakes buddy. My comment was “saves me lots of $$ on CAAD future upgrades”. I do not recall telling anybody here to stop shedding grams off their bikes because the change is meaningless! If it’s your hobby and it makes you feel good, more power to you!
I was skeptical on the advantage of taking grams off for better performance. I read the small article and will buy the book before judging from a small article. I have always been a hard training type of guy in every sport I have practiced. The athlete is the engine in every sport. My opinion is train hard and the results will come. That’s why I have not upgraded any parts on my CAAD since I bought it. Instead I got myself a fluid road machine and trainerroad plus sufferfest for this winter and rainy days. I will upgrade some stuff on my CAAD eventually but for me getting to where I want my legs to be is what makes for a competitive cyclist. It’s my opinion for what it’s worth.

PimpMyBike 08-19-14 10:35 AM


Originally Posted by Monkey D.Luffy (Post 17051130)
Anyone want to offer any opinions?

What is the asking price?

bianchi10 08-19-14 10:56 AM


Originally Posted by PimpMyBike (Post 17051161)
My intentions were not to piss in your cornflakes buddy. My comment was “saves me lots of $$ on CAAD future upgrades”. I do not recall telling anybody here to stop shedding grams off their bikes because the change is meaningless! If it’s your hobby and it makes you feel good, more power to you!
I was skeptical on the advantage of taking grams off for better performance. I read the small article and will buy the book before judging from a small article. I have always been a hard training type of guy in every sport I have practiced. The athlete is the engine in every sport. My opinion is train hard and the results will come. That’s why I have not upgraded any parts on my CAAD since I bought it. Instead I got myself a fluid road machine and trainerroad plus sufferfest for this winter and rainy days. I will upgrade some stuff on my CAAD eventually but for me getting to where I want my legs to be is what makes for a competitive cyclist. It’s my opinion for what it’s worth.

You might have misunderstood me or I might have come across in a way that I wasn't intending. Sorry for that. I was not condemning you for you thoughts or post. I was just adding to conversation since you asked for comments. Sorry mate

silkroad 08-19-14 11:48 AM


Originally Posted by PimpMyBike (Post 17051161)
My intentions were not to piss in your cornflakes buddy. My comment was “saves me lots of $$ on CAAD future upgrades”. I do not recall telling anybody here to stop shedding grams off their bikes because the change is meaningless! If it’s your hobby and it makes you feel good, more power to you!
I was skeptical on the advantage of taking grams off for better performance. I read the small article and will buy the book before judging from a small article. I have always been a hard training type of guy in every sport I have practiced. The athlete is the engine in every sport. My opinion is train hard and the results will come. That’s why I have not upgraded any parts on my CAAD since I bought it. Instead I got myself a fluid road machine and trainerroad plus sufferfest for this winter and rainy days. I will upgrade some stuff on my CAAD eventually but for me getting to where I want my legs to be is what makes for a competitive cyclist. It’s my opinion for what it’s worth.

Interesting...Since your user name says "PIMPMYBIKE"

Bianchi10 didn't show hostility towards you. Don't know why you jumped to "piss on your cornflakes" theory.

TCaad10 08-19-14 11:57 AM


Originally Posted by PimpMyBike (Post 17051161)
My intentions were not to piss in your cornflakes buddy. My comment was “saves me lots of $$ on CAAD future upgrades”. I do not recall telling anybody here to stop shedding grams off their bikes because the change is meaningless! If it’s your hobby and it makes you feel good, more power to you!
I was skeptical on the advantage of taking grams off for better performance. I read the small article and will buy the book before judging from a small article. I have always been a hard training type of guy in every sport I have practiced. The athlete is the engine in every sport. My opinion is train hard and the results will come. That’s why I have not upgraded any parts on my CAAD since I bought it. Instead I got myself a fluid road machine and trainerroad plus sufferfest for this winter and rainy days. I will upgrade some stuff on my CAAD eventually but for me getting to where I want my legs to be is what makes for a competitive cyclist. It’s my opinion for what it’s worth.

I agree with you on the importance of training in contrast to simply buying new stuff, however I am not sure what to learn by reading that book. First, it is based on Triathlon, which means riding alone against the wind. Riding uphill with a group of riders is a totally different thing. Second, why would I read a book which tells me that I can't achieve anything by making my bike lighter? And finally, those calculations, especially comparing aerodynamics to weight are often on the basis of a perfect world, which means a rider in perfect aero position for hours, which usually isn't the case for most athletes.
However, I respect your opinion and hope you'll have fun reading the book. I'll still prefer buying titan screws for the money :)

PimpMyBike 08-19-14 12:17 PM

Point taken but I don’t think the whole book ware written on that simple subject. It has great reviews and makes for an interesting read.

That being said, thanks Leinster, this is for another existing thread. Hijack ended. Did not want to ruffle any feathers.

PimpMyBike 08-19-14 12:19 PM


Originally Posted by bianchi10 (Post 17051266)
You might have misunderstood me or I might have come across in a way that I wasn't intending. Sorry for that. I was not condemning you for you thoughts or post. I was just adding to conversation since you asked for comments. Sorry mate

:thumb:

Monkey D.Luffy 08-19-14 12:47 PM


Originally Posted by PimpMyBike (Post 17051170)
What is the asking price?

He is asking 18.

PimpMyBike 08-19-14 01:09 PM

I think that $1800 is a good price for a $2800 bike new. It’s only has two seasons on it or maybe less. Depending on how much he babied it you can try a few $100 lower than the asking price but 18 is good. My 2 cents.

TCaad10 08-19-14 01:21 PM

Do you have any recommendations on a good stem?

I am about to test the following ones:

Extralite roadstem oc 85gr Alu very light
Syntace F 109 Alu
3T ARX LTD or Team

My bike setup is for long distance races in the mountains, so for me it is very important that the stem is reliable. And that it fits the look of my bike, so black with white would be my favorite.
I don't have issues with the C2 stem, but somehow I don't want it to be stock :)

Syntace would be a good fit to handlebar and seatpost, but I am open for any other recommendation. There is no budget, I'll simply work more, if the stem is expensive :)

Thanks,

T.

TCaad10 08-19-14 01:25 PM


Originally Posted by PimpMyBike (Post 17051724)
I think that $1800 is a good price for a $2800 bike new. It’s only has two seasons on it or maybe less. Depending on how much he babied it you can try a few $100 lower than the asking price but 18 is good. My 2 cents.

I agree. And the Ergonova is an excellent handlebar, no need for an upgrade in the future, depending on if you like it's form. Also Force is a great group and lightweight too.

howellhandmade 08-19-14 10:14 PM


Originally Posted by PimpMyBike (Post 17050485)
This interesting read will probably be the best $15 investment that saves me lots of $$ on CAAD future upgrades.

Bike weight and the myth of 'fast' bikes - VeloNews.com

Comments?

Makes me curious: what's the lightest anyone has built a CAAD? Which one? What components?

PimpMyBike 08-20-14 06:32 AM


Originally Posted by howellhandmade (Post 17053223)
Makes me curious: what's the lightest anyone has built a CAAD? Which one? What components?

The lightest one I have seen is the one on this page at post #8182 (12.8lbs CAAD 7):

http://www.bikeforums.net/road-cycli...-caad-328.html

That is crazy light.

Did anyone beat that?

h2oxtc 08-20-14 08:40 AM


Originally Posted by PimpMyBike (Post 17051724)
I think that $1800 is a good price for a $2800 bike new. It’s only has two seasons on it or maybe less. Depending on how much he babied it you can try a few $100 lower than the asking price but 18 is good. My 2 cents.

Keep in mind that US pricing is substantially lower than what we see here north of the 49. I wouldn't pay $1800 US for it.

bianchi10 08-20-14 10:13 AM


Originally Posted by h2oxtc (Post 17054136)
Keep in mind that US pricing is substantially lower than what we see here north of the 49. I wouldn't pay $1800 US for it.

.

I agree. If it has 2 season of riding, it is most certainly a used bike. It may be in good condition with some added upgrades, but it still doesn't change the fact that it is used. If he wants top dollar, he should part it out. Selling a bike as a whole will make him less. I would personally offer him $1200 for it. You could buy a brand new 2014 caad10 ultegra for $300 more than what he is asking. $1800 is way high in my opinion. You risk him blowing you off and him feeling like you are low balling him, but fact of the matter, he is asking too much. If you can afford $1800, I'd just be patient. There are lots of better deals for a Caad10 out there. Check out slowtwitch or paceline classifieds.

Team Sarcasm 08-22-14 10:52 AM

sram wireless needs to come out....I want wireless caad10 :D

I have been reading...and my worse wrist will take a year or so to finally feel normal. Just enough time for sram to get their stuff in order (this is me being optimistic...all my cardio gainz :( )

m66 08-22-14 12:41 PM


Originally Posted by lgp927 (Post 17041301)
So I was looking at the frame and it seems that the clips that hold the cables in the down tube and chain stay might come off and expose holes for routing, there's also an actual hole in the back of the seat tube see where I have that stick pointing to it.also it has that integrated sticker on the top tube. Or am I grasping ? Check out the pics .

I just asked about this last week, and now that I have my frame I can tell you this. The 2014 has the internal brake routing, as well as an addition hole right below for the downtube ewire. Then you have a hole at the back of the seat tube for the fd wire and another coming out the chainstay for the rd. So fully internal. The cable stops unscrew and are replaced with blank plates which should come with the bike but are obtainable from a dealer.

lgp927 08-22-14 12:51 PM


Originally Posted by m66 (Post 17061275)
I just asked about this last week, and now that I have my frame I can tell you this. The 2014 has the internal brake routing, as well as an addition hole right below for the downtube ewire. Then you have a hole at the back of the seat tube for the fd wire and another coming out the chainstay for the rd. So fully internal. The cable stops unscrew and are replaced with blank plates which should come with the bike but are obtainable from a dealer.


You have to be kidding, I asked a cannondale rep last week and he said no way, so I traded it for the 2012 SRAM red . Send me pics when you do yours I want to show the lbs and that rep

rekon 08-22-14 01:04 PM

What mods should I do to my CAAD? I love the way it rides and I just put on some new tires (conti grand prix 4000s II) that I really enjoy!

But... I want my bike to look sexier. Suggestions?

http://s28.postimg.org/6fxoealb1/WP_20140622_003.jpg


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