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Originally Posted by ilovecycling
(Post 13483731)
Can we please stop calling other matte black bikes "BBQ?" Just say matte black since that's what it is.
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Originally Posted by ilovecycling
(Post 13483731)
Can we please stop calling other matte black bikes "BBQ?" Just say matte black since that's what it is.
Oh, that's what a "BBQ" bike is? I agree, sounds pretty stupid. |
I'm kind of wishing I had waited on making the purchase of my CAAD 10 because I could have saved $250 on another same bike except for the color...oh well
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Originally Posted by ussprinceton
(Post 13486080)
I'm kind of wishing I had waited on making the purchase of my CAAD 10 because I could have saved $250 on another same bike except for the color...oh well
If you got what you wanted, it would be a waste of time to have any kind of regrets. I would pay full price for something I wanted and just enjoy it. |
Originally Posted by 2ndGen
(Post 13482804)
That Evo Red is like a carbon version of my BBQ CAAD9.
The CAAD9 looks nothing like the Evo. Especially the back half. Put your CAAD9 side by side with an Evo...you'll realize that they look nothing alike. The Evo looks more like a carbon CAAD10. :innocent: |
Originally Posted by I <3 Robots
(Post 13486243)
You sure your not looking at a Super Six and not an Evo? ;)
The CAAD9 looks nothing like the Evo. Especially the back half. Put your CAAD9 side by side with an Evo...you'll realize that they look nothing alike. The Evo looks more like a carbon CAAD10. :innocent: They both have classic lines. They both have the outlined lettering. They both have Ksryium Elite wheels. You have to see them in person to notice this better. CAAD10's "look" like clones, but upon closer inspection, you'll note the following: The main difference between the EVO and the CAAD10 is that EVO's tubes are thinner and rounder (more like the CAAD9's). CAAD10's actually look more like Carbon bikes that EVO's IMO. Again, you have to see them side by side (CAAD10, CAAD9, EVO). But of course, this is all subjective and just my personal opinions. :) |
The Cannondale rep at my LBS said that the CAAD10 is the Aluminum of the EVO. With the same lines and tubes.
And they look almost identical just one is carbon and the other isn't. |
Originally Posted by musiquero
(Post 13486402)
The Cannondale rep at my LBS said that the CAAD10 is the Aluminum of the EVO. With the same lines and tubes.
And they look almost identical just one is carbon and the other isn't. |
But the EVO is sexy though. Quick story...we had a cancer ride in october and they were raffling out bikes and what not. well anyways
if won you had the choice and a CAAD10-5 or the EVO frame and fork...this guy won and guess what he picked.........the CAAD10-5 made me sick. i wanted to slap him. |
Originally Posted by musiquero
(Post 13486420)
But the EVO is sexy though. Quick story...we had a cancer ride in october and they were raffling out bikes and what not. well anyways
if won you had the choice and a CAAD10-5 or the EVO frame and fork...this guy won and guess what he picked.........the CAAD10-5 made me sick. i wanted to slap him. |
Originally Posted by orionz06
(Post 13486413)
Wouldn't it be the Evo is a CF version of the CAAD10?
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Originally Posted by orionz06
(Post 13486423)
But it would have cost how much to get the evo going?
can get you a very nice bike. |
Originally Posted by musiquero
(Post 13486402)
The Cannondale rep at my LBS said that the CAAD10 is the Aluminum of the EVO. With the same lines and tubes.
And they look almost identical just one is carbon and the other isn't. http://cdn.cannondale.com/catalog/pr...ax5c_bbq_8.png http://slantmedia.tv/getagrip/compon...0RA91C_bbq.jpg Hmmm... To my mind, the Evo looks more like a 9 than a 10. |
the main difference between the caad10 and evo is the headtube junction (and the bottom bracket, rear brake routing and slight geometry, but they're not as noticeable). if you look at the top tube, rear triangle, delta seat tube and fork, they're basically identical between the caad10 and evo (also the evo uses basically the same fork as the caad10, just a hi modulus carbon version)
the similarities between the 9 and the evo are that they both say cannondale and are made of two triangles and the headtube junction looks a little thinner like the evo because it doesn't have an oversized down tube like the caad10 does i should know this, i sold several of them and ride a caad10 |
More info - this seems to support a similarity in the geometry of the Evo and the 10:
CAAD10: http://cdn.cannondale.com/catalog/pr...-caad10_17.gif Evo http://cdn.cannondale.com/catalog/pr...rsix_evo_3.gif Not identical, but very close... |
Thank you!!
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Downtube on the EVO is somewhere between the CAAD9 and 10 in shape at the headtube junction. Seat stays and chain stays on the CAAD10 are basically identical to the EVO and reflect the "SAVE" concept much moreso than the CAAD9. I think this is what makes the big difference in the reported ride quality, as in the CAAD10 feels more like a carbon frame than the CAAD9. There is no doubting that the CAAD10 represents an evolution over the CAAD9 in terms of tubing geometry, resulting in an improved ride quality. I am still up in the air over whether my next bike will be based on the EVO or CAAD10 frame.
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Originally Posted by 2ndGen
(Post 13486362)
They are both black.
They both have classic lines. They both have the outlined lettering. They both have Ksryium Elite wheels. You have to see them in person to notice this better. CAAD10's "look" like clones, but upon closer inspection, you'll note the following: The main difference between the EVO and the CAAD10 is that EVO's tubes are thinner and rounder (more like the CAAD9's). CAAD10's actually look more like Carbon bikes that EVO's IMO. Again, you have to see them side by side (CAAD10, CAAD9, EVO). But of course, this is all subjective and just my personal opinions. :) You know how impressionable some of the BF'ers are. ;) |
Originally Posted by jtwilson
(Post 13486705)
Downtube on the EVO is somewhere between the CAAD9 and 10 in shape at the headtube junction. Seat stays and chain stays on the CAAD10 are basically identical to the EVO and reflect the "SAVE" concept much moreso than the CAAD9. I think this is what makes the big difference in the reported ride quality, as in the CAAD10 feels more like a carbon frame than the CAAD9. There is no doubting that the CAAD10 represents an evolution over the CAAD9 in terms of tubing geometry, resulting in an improved ride quality. I am still up in the air over whether my next bike will be based on the EVO or CAAD10 frame.
If you plan on racing crits and are worried about crashes...then I would go the way of the 10. I've been seeing alot of them show up at the local crits. I know a Cat 3 racer that busted two S-Works carbon frames and ended up buying a CAAD10. |
Originally Posted by I <3 Robots
(Post 13489490)
So please do not confuse fact with fiction. :)
You know how impressionable some of the BF'ers are. ;) There's the internets, then there's reality! :lol: |
2ndgen, i'm sorry, but your conclusions aren't really valid
They are both black. - there are tons of black bikes, a paint job does not equate a distinct similarity between two different bikes They both have classic lines. - classic lines as in they are both made of two main triangles? again, many bike have "classic lines", standard geometry, round tubing They both have the outlined lettering. - again, a paint job does not show a similarity They both have Ksryium Elite wheels. - those are stock wheels and come on many different bikes, again, not a real similarity You have to see them in person to notice this better. - i have, they are distinctly dissimilar CAAD10's "look" like clones, but upon closer inspection, you'll note the following: The main difference between the EVO and the CAAD10 is that EVO's tubes are thinner and rounder (more like the CAAD9's). - they're thinner because they are carbon and are much stronger and lighter, not like the caad9, tube shaping is not like the caad9 which is obvious in the top tube, rear triangle, etc CAAD10's actually look more like Carbon bikes that EVO's IMO. - what does a "carbon" bike look like? there are many different types of carbon bikes and the caad10 is a specific aluminum bike with obvious weld lines, the evo is seamless and truly looks carbon because it is even though it has a classic geometry and silhouette, and the headtube junction is insanely clean, this is another moot point Again, you have to see them side by side (CAAD10, CAAD9, EVO). But of course, this is all subjective and just my personal opinions. - again, i have seen them all side by side, and even though it is your opinion, it is severely misjudged i'm sorry, but i can't take it anymore with your illogical reasoning |
Originally Posted by 2ndGen
(Post 13489517)
Again, you have to have all 3 bikes in your midst to know what I'm talking about.
There's the internets, then there's reality! :lol: |
Originally Posted by zitter
(Post 13489559)
2ndgen, i'm sorry, but your conclusions aren't really valid
They are both black. - there are tons of black bikes, a paint job does not equate a distinct similarity between two different bikes They both have the outlined lettering. - again, a paint job does not show a similarity They both have Ksryium Elite wheels. - those are stock wheels and come on many different bikes, again, not a real similarity i have, they are distinctly dissimilar i'm sorry, but i can't take it anymore with your illogical reasoning See? Easy. Agree to disagree.
Originally Posted by I <3 Robots
(Post 13489561)
or just look at the pics posted above. http://www.helifreak.com/images/smil...alm_smiley.gif
And if it's on the internets, it has to be true! :lol: Even when you look at the pictures, you'll see how bulbous the CAAD10 is at the head tube compared to the round tubing of the EVO. And where it the TT meets the seat tube, on the 10, it gets much smaller than the EVO which keeps a more consistent thickness resembling tubing more (one of the weight saving measures Cannondale talked about). Now, if the headtube and TT on a 10 are closer to you to an EVO, more power to you. But I don't know how oval ='s round, how flared-out hydroformed aluminum ='s smaller rounded tubing. Of course, a CAAD9 isn't going to look like a CAAD10. They are two different bikes and it is based "on" The EVO (like Specialized did with their new Allez Comp). But IMO, the EVO has a far cleaner look than the CAAD10. The only place that they are identical are at the junction of the seat tube. The CAAD10 looks more like a carbon bike than the EVO does with it's fat and the more aggressively tapered tubing. That's why I like the EVO so much. It doesn't look like the rest of the aero shaped carbon bikes out there with flared tubing. It's not even as thick as the SuperSix/HM either. They actually went smaller with the design. I love that. |
Originally Posted by DGlenday
(Post 13486697)
More info - this seems to support a similarity in the geometry of the Evo and the 10:
CAAD10: http://cdn.cannondale.com/catalog/pr...-caad10_17.gif Evo http://cdn.cannondale.com/catalog/pr...rsix_evo_3.gif Not identical, but very close... are literally tenths of centimeters when compared to the EVO in... http://www.nytro.com/prodimages/geom..._caad9_geo.gif :) |
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