I never looked at it that way, thanks. I'm an environmental hazard for owning a titanium bike?

That's right. But mother nature always forgives. Repent and buy a plastic bike. Throw that piece of metal into a hole somewhere for mother to reclaim. Do it and your life will never be the same. Riches of the spirit and happiness will be yours. Rejoice as you will be as one with mother once again.

Well, I have been looking at some carbon cranksets for it...

In case you forgot ITS MONDAY: turn off your computer for an hour and tune into SBS

You're meant to say good things about them. You're no help at all.

Nope. No help whatsoever.

And now I'm even less helpful, coz John Saffran's Music Jamboree is on. Whoop!

What a classic: TISM singin "He'll Never Be an Old Man River" playing Basouki and other cruddy Greek instruments! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

we can easily make that "banned" meaningful . . .
if we see many more like this. . .

Yeah, people should get banned for not knowing the contraction of you are is you're not your

Thanks Paul. Poor grammar offends all of us on The Aussie Thread.

any of you blokes out on Brisbane Water drive this morning? I saw quite a few riders out today on the way down to Woy Woy, just couldn't catch them to see who it was, all I saw was butts and yellow-ish jerseys. One really old fella pumping up the Tascott hills too, looked about 70.

Sorry, that one's just a pet peeve.

Wasn't me, I did the Roseville to Manly loop this morning.

Might have been a club ride, I think their new uniform has a bit of yellow in it. As for the old guy, he lives in Woy Woy. I see him out real early on Wednesdays.

Oi. Just reading a few threads on removing chains to clean them. Reading about the SRAM removable link that looks like a good thing. However, I've got a Shimano HG 73 chain on mine, which I would imagine wouldn't take those SRAM jobbies. So am I just stuck with breaking the chain and throwing new pins in them all the time?

Careful Saccy, you might get us chucked out of FOO with talk like that

HG73 is 8 or 9sp? I can't remember. Doesn't really matter. Get the corresponding 8 or 9sp SRAM link and it will work nicely on the Shimano chain. No more of those damned rivets to worry about. Easy on-off for cleaning. Don't however, get the Conex link, which doesn't work on 12 and 11T cogs, in my (and others') experience).

hey climbo,

is your alias an true indication of your abilities, or just wishful thinkin? I need to learn how to climb less like a walrus and more like a mountain goat. well as much as a tracky can be expected to. Might have to downgrade mountain goat aspirations to say mule

Thanks Rowan. Good to hear they'll work on the Shimano jobbies. So they don't cause any trouble with changing gear or wear on the sprockets? Just as an asside, the LBS dude here the other day tried to tell me that shimano chains came in one for 6 to 8 speed, and another for 9-10 speed. I thought 10 speed had their own?

Aww Dave. It was much simpler when we were in the roadie forum. I could actually ask the rare bike question without feeling guilty.

i've always used SRAM chains on my Shimano stuff (and I use Connex chains with the link on my Campagnolo 10 speed), they work great, shifting is not a problem, the cleaning aspect is the best part, they are a little tricky to get off but with practice it gets easier.

When I asked the LBS about removable links, they said they weren't needed, and sold me a chainbreaker. I think I might go and harangue them some more.

well sort of both, I can climb well and always want to climb better, suffice to say, that's the nickname I was given when I was MTB'ing back in California with my old American buddies.

Did you walk in backwards and bent over again? That SRAM removable link will make your life so much easier. It's even gold so you can find it quicker.

you still need a chain tool if you want to shorten or lengthen your chain so keep it, the linkages work great for removal though.

A chainbreaker? In Victoria, we call that John Kennedy.

Hey, are these a good deal?

Time pedals

Thanks