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Old 12-20-04 | 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Expatriate
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Wish I'd bought those instead of Dura-Ace.
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Old 12-20-04 | 05:45 PM
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Well, I guess to make excuses for myself, I need to break the chain to get the removable link in. So I was just looking ahead, getting a chain breaker to do the job. aranoid:
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Originally Posted by ed073
Wish I'd bought those instead of Dura-Ace.
What's wrong with Dura-Ace? This noob bought Dura-Ace.
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Old 12-20-04 | 05:48 PM
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Old 12-20-04 | 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by badsac
Well, I guess to make excuses for myself, I need to break the chain to get the removable link in. So I was just looking ahead, getting a chain breaker to do the job. aranoid:
Nice save! We have those links on the tandem chains - all 2.5 of them. Didn't do us any good when we busted the timing chain. Yes, my burly legs broke the chain. We still need to carry a chain tool with us when we ride now, otherwise my wife would get to sit up front and steer/brake/shift, while I sat in back and pedalled us both home.
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Old 12-20-04 | 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by badsac
What's wrong with Dura-Ace? This noob bought Dura-Ace.

Nuffin.....I just went from the old Time shape to D-A coz I didn't like the look of the new pedal. D-A is certainly top shelf, I just prefer Time.



Do you reckon if we behave well, we can get back into the Road Cycling forum?? At least until the Boxing Day Test...
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Old 12-20-04 | 06:00 PM
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Nice save! We have those links on the tandem chains - all 2.5 of them. Didn't do us any good when we busted the timing chain. Yes, my burly legs broke the chain. We still need to carry a chain tool with us when we ride now, otherwise my wife would get to sit up front and steer/brake/shift, while I sat in back and pedalled us both home.
Timing chain? Isn't that what cars have to drive their camshafts? You're nothing if not chivilrous pattie. I remember and old girlfriend I used to do some kayaking with. I used to always sit in the back under the premise I'd do all the work for her. Used to get buggered though and end up hardly paddling. Half the time she'd be paddling away, getting us there, and never notice I was being a lazy ****. Ah, that was the life.


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Do you reckon if we behave well, we can get back into the Road Cycling forum?? At least until the Boxing Day Test...
How would we do that? Talk about roadbikes? Do you think we're capable?
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Old 12-20-04 | 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by badsac
Timing chain? Isn't that what cars have to drive their camshafts? You're nothing if not chivilrous pattie. I remember and old girlfriend I used to do some kayaking with. I used to always sit in the back under the premise I'd do all the work for her. Used to get buggered though and end up hardly paddling. Half the time she'd be paddling away, getting us there, and never notice I was being a lazy ****. Ah, that was the life.




How would we do that? Talk about roadbikes? Do you think we're capable?
The timing chain connect my crankset to hers. Look at this sick design that allows independent pedalling:

daVinci drivetrain - engineering at it's finest
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Old 12-20-04 | 06:13 PM
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The timing chain connect my crankset to hers. Look at this sick design that allows independent pedalling:

daVinci drivetrain - engineering at it's finest
Oooo. Doesn't that look flash! I swear I'd cut my feet off if I rode on that thing. Might be worth it though as I never thought of how much of a pain in the arse it would be to have to pedal only when the other person wanted to. So obviously you'd need to get a new treadlie if you wanted that sucker?
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First up, I'd like to say that you guys talk utter, utter crap. I've just had to wade through 5 pages of this drivel! *GACK*

Anyway, back to bikes. I love the SRAM easy breaky linky things. They rock. Makes the chain so easy to clean. Which I do.......what? Once a year?

Second, there's a new Time pedal out, that's why the Impacts are being sold off PDQ. It's called the RXS I think. Looks very tempting....about 220 bucks.

Expat, sign me up for any Clif goodies you end up shipping over. More than happy to take a box or two off your hands and help a mate pay the rent.

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Oi. Just reading a few threads on removing chains to clean them. Reading about the SRAM removable link that looks like a good thing. However, I've got a Shimano HG 73 chain on mine, which I would imagine wouldn't take those SRAM jobbies. So am I just stuck with breaking the chain and throwing new pins in them all the time?

oi saccy,

I've been running the sram thingo's for ever....everyone told me they were gunna cause me 'issues', but i've never had any problems at all....much easier than punching a link all the time.......i take the cahin & cogs off once a month or so...soak overnight in an old icecream tub of diesel.....dry it off...voila immaculate chain & cogs...& my $300 dura ace cassette seems to last twice as long as the lads who told me that the sram links were crap!....they make em in every size....check 'em out

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Originally Posted by badsac
Oi. Just reading a few threads on removing chains to clean them. Reading about the SRAM removable link that looks like a good thing. However, I've got a Shimano HG 73 chain on mine, which I would imagine wouldn't take those SRAM jobbies. So am I just stuck with breaking the chain and throwing new pins in them all the time?
I'm not sure if it's exactly the same thing, because I can't remember what brand I had, but I had those removable things come off twice while riding. Ya know, those times when you go over a big bump, and you might not have the gears quite right, then the chain loses tension and starts bouncing all over the place -- that's when it happened.

I decided it's not worth it to take them off to clean
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did you guys see this on the "what does 53-11 look like" thread?

https://www.bikeforums.net/attachment...chmentid=20744
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oi saccy,

I've been running the sram thingo's for ever....everyone told me they were gunna cause me 'issues', but i've never had any problems at all....much easier than punching a link all the time.......i take the cahin & cogs off once a month or so...soak overnight in an old icecream tub of diesel.....dry it off...voila immaculate chain & cogs...& my $300 dura ace cassette seems to last twice as long as the lads who told me that the sram links were crap!....they make em in every size....check 'em out

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Should you ever wear out that $300 Dura Ace cassette, I will gladly sell you a new one for $200...
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listen guys, i have absolutely NO idea what's been goin on on this thread, but at least now i know there's an aussies thread out there that i can identify with. good on'ya guys, and merry xmas.

.....err you can identify with this thread?.......quick, seek professional help, it's not too late!.....perhaps we could organize one of those Seppo 'intervention' things!....In Oz, an 'intervention' would be a pissup followed by a punchup, followed by a barbie, followed by further pissing up!....I'm in!

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Originally Posted by Expatriate
The timing chain connect my crankset to hers. Look at this sick design that allows independent pedalling:

daVinci drivetrain - engineering at it's finest
Someone should tell those guys, that Stock trials bikes often have the freewheel at the cranks, so when you stop pedaling, the rear wheel is still engaged. If you can get your head around that concept, it kinda makes it look like the DaViinci people didn't do their homework ( or dismissed the idea for some reason I haven't considered ). That sounds like a much neater solution to me......although, you'd need both otherwise.........oh geez, what a mindfück.

Stupid tandems
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Old 12-20-04 | 06:27 PM
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oi saccy,

I've been running the sram thingo's for ever....everyone told me they were gunna cause me 'issues', but i've never had any problems at all....much easier than punching a link all the time.......i take the cahin & cogs off once a month or so...soak overnight in an old icecream tub of diesel.....dry it off...voila immaculate chain & cogs...& my $300 dura ace cassette seems to last twice as long as the lads who told me that the sram links were crap!....they make em in every size....check 'em out

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Diesel? I take it you dispose of that in your Subie after use.

Those threads I was reading, they were saying they take their ***** off weekly. WTF? How hard is it to get cassette's off anyway?
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Should you ever wear out that $300 Dura Ace cassette, I will gladly sell you a new one for $200...
Are they $200?....I just happened to notice that SBR put $300 on the quote that I needed for the insurance company for the 486......I have no idea what I paid for the individual bits!

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Someone should tell those guys, that Stock trials bikes often have the freewheel at the cranks, so when you stop pedaling, the rear wheel is still engaged. If you can get your head around that concept, it kinda makes it look like the DaViinci people didn't do their homework ( or dismissed the idea for some reason I haven't considered ). That sounds like a much neater solution to me......although, you'd need both otherwise.........oh geez, what a mindfück.

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Hey Tiger, I just posted a question on Classic Bikes here in BF about an old Raleigh with a free-wheel BB. Tell me more -- I am fascinated at how it all works.
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Well, as far as I know, the front chainring is mounted to a freewheel mechanism, rather than having the rear cogs mounted to the freewheel.

I think what that means is, is that if you stop pedaling while riding, the entire drivetrain still goes around while your cranks stay stationary

Hurts the brain, doesn't it.

It also means that the rear cogs are 'bolted' to the rear wheel like a track bike, and that you can change gears even when you're not pedaling.

I think.


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Originally Posted by Thylacine
Someone should tell those guys, that Stock trials bikes often have the freewheel at the cranks, so when you stop pedaling, the rear wheel is still engaged. If you can get your head around that concept, it kinda makes it look like the DaViinci people didn't do their homework ( or dismissed the idea for some reason I haven't considered ). That sounds like a much neater solution to me......although, you'd need both otherwise.........oh geez, what a mindfück.

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Hey! You don't hear me saying "stupid single seat all alone no one to rub their back while they ride skinny tire kooks"! You are technically correct, but since they're connecting two sets of cranks, the 2 freewheels serve the purpose of allowing either rider to pedal independent of the other.
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Well, as far as I know, the front chainring is mounted to a freewheel mechanism, rather than having the rear cogs mounted to the freewheel.

I think what that means is, is that if you stop pedaling while riding, the entire drivetrain still goes around while your cranks stay stationary

Hurts the brain, doesn't it.

It also means that the rear cogs are 'bolted' to the rear wheel like a track bike, and that you can change gears even when you're not pedaling.

I think.

Yeah it does hurt the brain. There were five or six bike guys at a Christmas party on Saturday night trying to sort out the technicalities. We spent... oh... errr... about two minutes on it, then had another drink as a sedative.

It's a bit like trying to work out how a Schlumpf mountain drive works when there is absolutely no change in the number of the outer teeth. Now that really is a conundrum that takes some getting around.
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Old 12-20-04 | 06:59 PM
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Have a beer first, and scroll down a few pages

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A chainbreaker? In Victoria, we call that John Kennedy.

ooops. Soprry, missed this post ed?

John Kennedy? WTF?
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John Kennedy? WTF?

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