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Old 12-20-04 | 10:04 PM
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Geez... I thought you were talking about Shanie Warnie... flippers, scooters, skidders and the like. It thought the skyrocket was another one he was pulling out of his repertoire.

Ah heck... back on cricket again.

We did try.

However, I HAVE done Anglesea to Warnie, and beyond to Halls Gap and beyond there to Moyston, and back again. I've probably covered more distance than you...

How big was your skyrocket again?

ahhhh a p!ssing contest!.....Anglesea to warnie?.....yeah, but what did you do after your warmup?......bloody Audax riders should get outta the way...s'pose you wore your yellow rain jacket on a cloudless 25deg day?....(well the rest of 'em do!)

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skyrocket= pocket cant you understand yer own lingo?
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Old 12-20-04 | 10:10 PM
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OFF TOPIC: 2005 Tech Regs have been posted. Go here if you have a dull and uninteresting life:

https://www.cycling.org.au/Template.c...al_Regulations

...If you think I'm reading all that, you've got another thought coming!.......the only thing to do is let the officials worry about that *****....when you get disqualified for contravening 'em, you just appeal on the basis that ya couldn't be farked reading 'em all....hey I've seen a guy get off on that as the basis of his appeal!.......so, in the interim, my saddle will be less than 5cm back from the centre of the BB....bring on the tape measure!...I dare 'em!

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Old 12-20-04 | 10:10 PM
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Ho hum, 6 bikes in the garage, and nothing needs fixin' or tinkerin'. Shall we discuss the best lube for derailleur jockey wheels? And what's with the ceramic bushing? Maybe Thylo knows. If not, he'll spout some convincing B.S., no doubt.

Oh, I always wanted to use this one -
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Old 12-20-04 | 10:11 PM
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skyrocket= pocket cant you understand yer own lingo?

rowan's a taswegian sub editor....ya gotta make allowances!

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Old 12-20-04 | 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by greywolf
skyrocket= pocket cant you understand yer own lingo?
Errr... no. We're a slightly more cultured lot down here in Tasmania. That one slipped through my research reading.

All right. It's one of those days. I am distracted.
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Old 12-20-04 | 10:13 PM
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Ho hum, 6 bikes in the garage, and nothing needs fixin' or tinkerin'. Shall we discuss the best lube for derailleur jockey wheels? And what's with the ceramic bushing? Maybe Thylo knows. If not, he'll spout some convincing B.S., no doubt.

Oh, I always wanted to use this one -
Some erudite (that's wise for you luddites) seppo has a sig that says something like: If it ain't broke, fiddle anyway. Get fiddlin' man, get fiddlin' Nothing on a bike should be safe from fiddling.
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Old 12-20-04 | 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Hitchy
ahhhh a p!ssing contest!.....Anglesea to warnie?.....yeah, but what did you do after your warmup?......bloody Audax riders should get outta the way...s'pose you wore your yellow rain jacket on a cloudless 25deg day?....(well the rest of 'em do!)

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Pffft. You lot ought to try the 60mph southerly buster that came through between Warnie and Port Campbell (and you'd know that was a SIDE wind), THEN the 15 hours of constant rain that followed. We were stripped down to our bike shorts and nothing else coz the wind was so strong, it ripped off the rest. the ex-road-racers were all hunched up snivelling in a corner at the Port Campbell youth hostel afraid to go outside.

EDIT: Sadly, there are some elements of truth to this.
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Old 12-20-04 | 10:19 PM
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What do you guys make of this d!ckhead?

"Generally as a rule, I don't buy from any AMERICAN."

"I treat people with as much respect as they deserve. Australian sights are for AUSTRALIAN SELLERS only, not your type."

He just bought something else off me on ebay, and I recognised the email address. I thought I had banned him. I'll go fiddle while I decide what to do.
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Well, I've had some questionable experiences with non-paying Americans, but it wouldn't stop me from dealing with them if there is a rip-off (in my favour) in the wind.

More to the point... have you got his money? Restore his faith. Don't send the item.
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Old 12-20-04 | 10:22 PM
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Pffft. You lot ought to try the 60mph southerly buster that came through between Warnie and Port Campbell (and you'd know that was a SIDE wind), THEN the 15 hours of constant rain that followed. We were stripped down to our bike shorts and nothing else coz the wind was so strong, it ripped off the rest. the ex-road-racers were all hunched up snivelling in a corner at the Port Campbell youth hostel afraid to go outside.

EDIT: Sadly, there are some elements of truth to this.

I'd have more respect for audax folks if they raised the qualifying to something like 20kph....15kph?....fair dinkum, you could ride around the world & average that!...last years Alpine classic.....I got extremely 'lubed' the night before, got to bed at 4am, up at 5.30 for the 6.20am start......38 deg, 6 spews (I wish i was joking about that!)...2 hrs sleep under a tree & I still made the cut off by 45 mins...c'mon, 15kph is not a serious challenge!

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Old 12-20-04 | 10:24 PM
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Well, I've had some questionable experiences with non-paying Americans, but it wouldn't stop me from dealing with them if there is a rip-off (in my favour) in the wind.

More to the point... have you got his money? Restore his faith. Don't send the item.
It's one of those items that cost me a buck, and he bid $23.50, so I don't mind him getting it. I'd rather it go to the next higher bidder, and he can go get stuffed.
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Old 12-20-04 | 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Hitchy
I'd have more respect for audax folks if they raised the qualifying to something like 20kph....15kph?....fair dinkum, you could ride around the world & average that!...last years Alpine classic.....I got extremely 'lubed' the night before, got to bed at 4am, up at 5.30 for the 6.20am start......38 deg, 6 spews (I wish i was joking about that!)...2 hrs sleep under a tree & I still made the cut off by 45 mins...c'mon, 15kph is not a serious challenge!

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Yeah, s'pose. Finishing 17 minutes inside the 90-hour time limit for 1200km wouldn't qualify me, then. <sniff>.

So c'mon, Hitchy. I hear a 400 and 600 in the offing here. Then a full-blown 1200. You up for any some time next year?

(45 minutes under 13 hours 30 mins for 200k? You MUST have been close to dead, man!)
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Old 12-20-04 | 10:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Hitchy
I'd have more respect for audax folks if they raised the qualifying to something like 20kph....15kph?....fair dinkum, you could ride around the world & average that!...last years Alpine classic.....I got extremely 'lubed' the night before, got to bed at 4am, up at 5.30 for the 6.20am start......38 deg, 6 spews (I wish i was joking about that!)...2 hrs sleep under a tree & I still made the cut off by 45 mins...c'mon, 15kph is not a serious challenge!

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I did an Audax ride once (that was enuf). They had some clown rule that if you exceeded (I think) 29.5km for 200km then you didn't get your cert. So we ambled from pub to pub in the Hunter Valley at a liesurely 28kmh. God it felt slow, but the beer was good. Thank god that don't to drug tests on Audax or we all wouldve failed.
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Old 12-20-04 | 10:35 PM
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What's the difference between audax and randonneuring? I've managed to gather that they both involve long-distance cycling but are they just different names for the same thing?
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Old 12-20-04 | 10:38 PM
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(45 minutes under 13 hours 30 mins for 200k? You MUST have been close to dead, man!)

mate...without a word of a lie....death woulda been a relief. I rode down to the start, (still p!ssed from the night before), got there & realized I'd neglected to pump up me tyres (I always reduce the pressure after each ride).....anyway, to cut a long story short......doing the Alpine in 38deg, pissed, wasn't one of my better ideas!.........but my point is....15kph...c'mon anyone can do that. 600kph, 1200kph, PBP.....no wucka's...when's the next PBP anyway?.....the missus is gunna let me go to France for the TDF, I doubt I'll be allowed (or could afford) to go again for PBP. you do that 'Great southern Randonee' thing?...that looks interesting!

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The GSR is what I have been alluding to. 60mph southerly buster, 15 hours of constant rain. Strong tail and headwinds. Finished 17 minutes inside the limit. 5.5 hours sleep. And a heap of fun.

A guy on a mountain bike actually headed up the times.
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Old 12-20-04 | 10:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Hitchy
mate...without a word of a lie....death woulda been a relief. I rode down to the start, (still p!ssed from the night before), got there & realized I'd neglected to pump up me tyres (I always reduce the pressure after each ride).....anyway, to cut a long story short......doing the Alpine in 38deg, pissed, wasn't one of my better ideas!.........but my point is....15kph...c'mon anyone can do that. 600kph, 1200kph, PBP.....no wucka's...when's the next PBP anyway?.....the missus is gunna let me go to France for the TDF, I doubt I'll be allowed (or could afford) to go again for PBP. you do that 'Great southern Randonee' thing?...that looks interesting!

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PBP 2007 (held every four years). Many guys from Aus go over the for the TdF, do the various rides up l'Alpe d-Huez and the final one through Paris before the crit. good training (so they say) for the PBP. Usually the start is in the third week of August.
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What's the difference between audax and randonneuring? I've managed to gather that they both involve long-distance cycling but are they just different names for the same thing?
Subtle differences. Audax is where a group of riders get together and ride together for the entire event. Usually there is a leader, and he sets pace, issues instructions, keeps everyone organised. Probably little different to pelotons, except there is no surging, breakaways or somesuch. Someone drops of the back, and the group slows to bring them back on. Everyone stops to sleep and eat at the same time. With true Audax style, the average speed is expected to be 22km/h. It is not that popular in the US, but quite popular in England and some parts of Europe.

Randonneuring is simply long distance organised rides at the individuals' own pace. You can ride together, draft together, you can jump into other beds all day and night... or you can ride alone. Just so long as you come in under the maximum time allowed. The Audax philsophy can be layered over the randonneur one (ie, Audaxers ride in randonnees), but the reverse does not apply.

If you get my drift.
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Old 12-20-04 | 11:09 PM
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you can jump into other beds all day and night...
SCORE!!!!.....so where do i sign up!

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Old 12-20-04 | 11:21 PM
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If you get my drift.
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Old 12-20-04 | 11:21 PM
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I did an Audax ride once (that was enuf). They had some clown rule that if you .
South Park and John Safran? You seem to have some taste

Did you check out Carnivale on Sun Ch2?

It's nothin' like South Park, but it's good. Very "Twin Peaky"
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SCORE!!!!.....so where do i sign up!

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Did you get back on the forum from work?
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Old 12-20-04 | 11:26 PM
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Did you get back on the forum from work?
Nah, he's at home. Looking after the rug rats for his missus.
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Old 12-20-04 | 11:31 PM
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Some erudite (that's wise for you luddites) seppo has a sig that says something like: If it ain't broke, fiddle anyway. Get fiddlin' man, get fiddlin' Nothing on a bike should be safe from fiddling.
Still nothing. Drop your bike off tomorrow and I will take it apart and put it back together again. The courier only brought me a pair of pedals today. I am bored. I bid on 54 items on ebay, that's my day. I need a used bike to rebuild.
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