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Old 11-30-04 | 07:38 PM
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You blokes seen this Giant.....
https://www.mammothlifestyle.co.uk/tcr100.htm
I think Lawencia Cycles in Hawthorn have one for $20k give or take a few $$
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Where is the recalcitrant Wattsy? Pics man, we need dah pix.

Wow, that Giant comes with the 'revolutionary' 'Compact Geometry' in a whopping three sizes, how generous!! Cutting edge material, with the same level of fit as that tricycle you had when you were 5! Oh boy, MUST HAVE!

Jaysus.

This from Giant's own website -

"Giant’s Compact Road design is arguably one of the most important developments to hit the peloton since Lycra."

You've got to be farken kidding me, right? Yeah, I see how you being a tight arse and only making 5 sizes and trying to squeeze everyone in there is 'important' - IMPORTANT MARKETING CRAP lowering your IMPORTANT COSTS and improving your IMPORTANT MARGINS. Tossers.

"By sloping the top tube downward toward the rear of the bike, two very important characteristics were achieved. First, the frame became stiffer for improved acceleration and more solid cornering. Second, the bike got lighter."

That's funny, because the laws of physics dictate that a shallower, more obtuse triangle is actually flexier than a less obtuse one. Obviously that's another one of Giant's 'Important developments' - defying the laws of physics.

"But what makes Giant’s Compact Road geometry truly superior is that only four frame sizes are needed to achieve a custom fit, for virtually every size of rider."

Obviously the word 'Custom' in Mandarin doesn't mean the same thing as it does in English, coz according to my dictionary. 'Custom' means - "Made to the specifications of an individual customer".

There ya go, that's my rant for the day.

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Old 11-30-04 | 07:48 PM
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Hey 531......who were those dudes you were racing along beach rode last night.....
I've never seen you ride so fast.....you must have had a shot of Milo!!!
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Old 11-30-04 | 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by SJP
Hey 531......who were those dudes you were racing along beach rode last night.....
I've never seen you ride so fast.....you must have had a shot of Milo!!!
I thought you might've made a crack about me riding with two guys on Giants.

Actaully, I kinda know those guys; they're the only two guys on those w@nker group rides I talk to,
so we were just mucking around.
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Old 11-30-04 | 07:58 PM
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You blokes seen this Giant.....
https://www.mammothlifestyle.co.uk/tcr100.htm
I think Lawencia Cycles in Hawthorn have one for $20k give or take a few $$
That is one of the ugliest bikes I have ever seen! But if I was rich and stupid I'd probably need one for the W@nk value
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Old 11-30-04 | 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by 531Aussie
I thought you might've made a crack about me riding with two guys on Giants.

Actaully, I kinda know those guys; they're the only two guys on those w@nker group rides I talk to,
so we were just mucking around.
I was to tired to notice they were on giants.......I just got out of work and saw three guys going for it....then i saw you....i thought you were trying to drag them off!!!
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Old 11-30-04 | 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by rockmuncher
That is one of the ugliest bikes I have ever seen! But if I was rich and stupid I'd probably need one for the W@nk value
Don't it just annoy you when you get to the asterisk, then go searching for the qualification (as in lightest*) and you can't find it? Still, I suppose w@ankers wouldn't know what an asterisk is.
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Old 11-30-04 | 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Thylacine
Okay, sadly I only have 2 very bad pix of the ride to share. But hey, at least I HAVE shared them *hint hint*
It's funny -- right where those photos were taken, we all started squeeling like chicks because we realized we had ridden on freshly laid tar with our new bikes
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Old 11-30-04 | 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Thylacine
Where is the recalcitrant Wattsy? Pics man, we need dah pix.
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I'm startin' to worry about him.

Has anyone had a reply from him?
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Old 11-30-04 | 08:12 PM
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I think he might've asked the wife if he could buy a more blingy bike and she now has his nads in a vice.

Hitchy's got his moby number I believe. Hitchy? Give him a call mate.
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Old 11-30-04 | 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by 531Aussie
I'm startin' to worry about him.

Has anyone had a reply from him?
.......sent him an email the other night about some ebay scheme we cooked up, he replied....dunno what's happened to him since. To busy golfing I suspect! (or having ridden with us, he's ashamed & doesn't wanna associate wif the likes of us anymore!)

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Old 11-30-04 | 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Thylacine
Where is the recalcitrant Wattsy? Pics man, we need dah pix.

Wow, that Giant comes with the 'revolutionary' 'Compact Geometry' in a whopping three sizes, how generous!! Cutting edge material, with the same level of fit as that tricycle you had when you were 5! Oh boy, MUST HAVE!

Jaysus.

This from Giant's own website -

"Giant’s Compact Road design is arguably one of the most important developments to hit the peloton since Lycra."

You've got to be farken kidding me, right? Yeah, I see how you being a tight arse and only making 5 sizes and trying to squeeze everyone in there is 'important' - IMPORTANT MARKETING CRAP lowering your IMPORTANT COSTS and improving your IMPORTANT MARGINS. Tossers.

"By sloping the top tube downward toward the rear of the bike, two very important characteristics were achieved. First, the frame became stiffer for improved acceleration and more solid cornering. Second, the bike got lighter."

That's funny, because the laws of physics dictate that a shallower, more obtuse triangle is actually flexier than a less obtuse one. Obviously that's another one of Giant's 'Important developments' - defying the laws of physics.

"But what makes Giant’s Compact Road geometry truly superior is that only four frame sizes are needed to achieve a custom fit, for virtually every size of rider."

Obviously the word 'Custom' in Mandarin doesn't mean the same thing as it does in English, coz according to my dictionary. 'Custom' means - "Made to the specifications of an individual customer".

There ya go, that's my rant for the day.
Pointless trivia. Giant is located in Newbury Park, California. About 3 minutes from the BMW design studio that brought us the new Mini. The difference is, I saw the Mini way before it was a production vehicle for sale in the US. Never saw anyone from Giant tooling around on their newest bikes. I hope there's no point being made here. Anyone want me to get them a real world quote on having that bike odered through my LOSBS (Local Overseas Bike Shop) and shipped here? Should be about 50% cheaper than here.
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Old 11-30-04 | 08:37 PM
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Hey, quick question while I'm thinking. What SJP riding in that piccie? (I'm to lazy to search).
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Can someone give me a brief history of the origin of the sloping top tube?

I gather it started on mountain bikes, but when, why and who?
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Old 11-30-04 | 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by badsac
Hey, quick question while I'm thinking. What SJP riding in that piccie? (I'm to lazy to search).
I know SJP; I used to work with his brother -- and I reckon I know all about that bike.

It's a steel Pinarello Sestriere, with a steel threadless fork, 9 speed Veloce, and Campag Proton wheels.

The bike had done 500km, and he got it for $1700!! I reckon it was a great buy.

Actually I should ask Ed if he might know what year it is -- it's a tricky one.
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Old 11-30-04 | 08:42 PM
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Hey, quick question while I'm thinking. What SJP riding in that piccie? (I'm to lazy to search).

Alu pinerello....pretty nice for $1700, 2nd hand (I think he said)...dunno why anyone would buy a new TCR for $2400 if you acn get something like this for $1700

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Old 11-30-04 | 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Hitchy
Alu pinerello....
Nah, it's steel.

When he bought it, we couldn't figure out what year it was.....bit tricky
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Old 11-30-04 | 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by badsac
Hey, quick question while I'm thinking. What SJP riding in that piccie? (I'm to lazy to search).
I'm guessing it's a bike. Based on the tires, looks like a road bike.
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Thanks. Looks nice.

See, that's what you city folks can blag, just causes there's more w@nkers per square km. It's unfair.
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Old 11-30-04 | 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by 531Aussie
Nah, it's steel.

When he bought it, we couldn't figure out what year it was.....bit tricky

...actually, i think I asked you that when we were talking about it & you told me steel (brain fade today!)...nice looking frame though......I like that 'Pearl' sort of colour

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Old 11-30-04 | 08:46 PM
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I'm guessing it's a bike. Based on the tires, looks like a road bike.
Good to see we're at the same level of technical proficiency when it comes to roadbikes.
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Old 11-30-04 | 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Expatriate
I'm guessing it's a bike. Based on the tires, looks like a road bike.
Hmmm...dunno.....you got any recently published journal articles to support this theory?
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Old 11-30-04 | 08:50 PM
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Hmmm...dunno.....you got any recently published journal articles to support this theory?
where's Sydney/boudreaux when you need him?......you sorted that little scam yet, 531?

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Old 11-30-04 | 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by badsac
Good to see we're at the same level of technical proficiency when it comes to roadbikes.
There was a time in my past when I could quote you the exact spec and dimensions of Columbus butted tubing for various road bikes. Now that I'm just too fat for road bikes, I don't bother. I've gone over to the fat tire crowd, and I'm here to stay. But this thread is so entertaining, it's the only one I follow. And I make sure to never contribute anything meaningful, as promised.
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Old 11-30-04 | 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Hitchy
where's Sydney/boudreaux when you need him?......you sorted that little scam yet, 531?

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Nah, he's been pretty quiet lately, on both forums, and he hasn't pissed me off
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