The Aussie Thread
#5326
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Originally Posted by Expatriate
This man has put all his faith in steel!
Hitchy
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Bikes: Thylacines...only Thylacines.
Singin' gospel at the Chapel of Steel.....yup, that's me.
Hitchy, sell that KG666 and I'll make ya a frame that'll make grown men weep
Oh yeah, you'll become irresistable to the opposite sex, too.
Did I forget anything? *burp*
Hitchy, sell that KG666 and I'll make ya a frame that'll make grown men weep

Oh yeah, you'll become irresistable to the opposite sex, too.
Did I forget anything? *burp*
#5328
track night was wild tonight - 2 crashes, one in C/D grade (1 rider), one in A (3 riders). Likely tally of 2 broken collarbones and 1 broken arm and a bunch of sore bodies tomorrow.
On a better note I won my first B race, the Win and Out. Also figured out I SUCK at starts, 1 lap handicap and I couldn't even get on the last wheel after starting at scratch.
On a better note I won my first B race, the Win and Out. Also figured out I SUCK at starts, 1 lap handicap and I couldn't even get on the last wheel after starting at scratch.
#5329
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You blokes are a collective pile of steaming turd. For two days we've had nothing. Nay, less than nothing. And now a solid thread of thought with basis for more than a single sided argument on several fronts, and you don't have the decency to bring it up when I'm around?
Well I might be conceited, but at least I'm opinionated
So here's my vain effort to catch up with the current state of the thread:
Expat, stop doing crack (s in your handlebars), Thylacine says it'll bring you down, mayhap, maybe, but soon.
According to the latest opinion polls (which have never been influenced by the media, or Rupert I'm Such a Dork Murdoch) the Australian public supports our athletes being subjected to drug tests, random or not. So it must be good for sport.
And steel still seems to be the unjustified rage. Sure it has a nice set of properties amongst its failings, but only underlings would use them to convert the masses or for their own benefit. I have a beautiful steel bike, and compared to my crappy training bike it's a total piece of *****. AMEN. Steel sucks in a modern world. Get over it.
Oh yeah, training was cancelled tonite due to unforseen smoke from fires many miles away. It was so thick you could have made a sandwich out of each lungful. Hope they cancelled the track meet.
Well I might be conceited, but at least I'm opinionated
So here's my vain effort to catch up with the current state of the thread:
Expat, stop doing crack (s in your handlebars), Thylacine says it'll bring you down, mayhap, maybe, but soon.
According to the latest opinion polls (which have never been influenced by the media, or Rupert I'm Such a Dork Murdoch) the Australian public supports our athletes being subjected to drug tests, random or not. So it must be good for sport.
And steel still seems to be the unjustified rage. Sure it has a nice set of properties amongst its failings, but only underlings would use them to convert the masses or for their own benefit. I have a beautiful steel bike, and compared to my crappy training bike it's a total piece of *****. AMEN. Steel sucks in a modern world. Get over it.
Oh yeah, training was cancelled tonite due to unforseen smoke from fires many miles away. It was so thick you could have made a sandwich out of each lungful. Hope they cancelled the track meet.
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Originally Posted by climbo
track night was wild tonight - 2 crashes, one in C/D grade (1 rider), one in A (3 riders). Likely tally of 2 broken collarbones and 1 broken arm and a bunch of sore bodies tomorrow.
On a better note I won my first B race, the Win and Out. Also figured out I SUCK at starts, 1 lap handicap and I couldn't even get on the last wheel after starting at scratch.
On a better note I won my first B race, the Win and Out. Also figured out I SUCK at starts, 1 lap handicap and I couldn't even get on the last wheel after starting at scratch.
COUGH.... COUGH... ******** ...COUGH... GOOD....ENOUGH....Congrats on the Win and Out, whatever that is!
[Edit] Sounds like an elimination trial... (ie. last rider eliminated until two left to sprint for glory)
#5331
Ochayethenoo
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From: Green Point, NSW
Bikes: Lemond MJ Classic, Klein Palomino, Felt TK2 Track, Daccordi vintage
First post in the worlds biggest thread... felt I had to contribute.
Well got my bike back tonight, they swapped my 1999 Lemond Zurich for a 2004 MJClassic so I'm pretty chuffed, apart from the $440 bill from LBS, NY res, must take crash course in bike mechanics!
Anway, went out for an hour before dark, sunburnt my arms yesterday so resorted to my Scottish winter cycling jersey, longsleeve with fleece lining. Quick stint to terrigal and back almost revealed the contents of lunch! How unfit can you get after a couple of weeks off the bike.
Oh i get it 10% of 0 is still 0... Apply that to my fitness & I understand...
Well got my bike back tonight, they swapped my 1999 Lemond Zurich for a 2004 MJClassic so I'm pretty chuffed, apart from the $440 bill from LBS, NY res, must take crash course in bike mechanics!
Anway, went out for an hour before dark, sunburnt my arms yesterday so resorted to my Scottish winter cycling jersey, longsleeve with fleece lining. Quick stint to terrigal and back almost revealed the contents of lunch! How unfit can you get after a couple of weeks off the bike.
Oh i get it 10% of 0 is still 0... Apply that to my fitness & I understand...
#5332
Ochayethenoo
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From: Green Point, NSW
Bikes: Lemond MJ Classic, Klein Palomino, Felt TK2 Track, Daccordi vintage
Damn, Wish I'd read that last post telling me my new bike sucks!!!!!!!!!!
#5333
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Originally Posted by pshaw
Damn, Wish I'd read that last post telling me my new bike sucks!!!!!!!!!!
All bikes suck regardless of make, model, construction, drivetrain, etc. Get used to it.
#5334
Ochayethenoo
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From: Green Point, NSW
Bikes: Lemond MJ Classic, Klein Palomino, Felt TK2 Track, Daccordi vintage
Only chains suck
#5335
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Originally Posted by pshaw
Only chains suck 

But then again anything that fatigues sucks. Steel, Al, Ti, rubber grommets, self.... take your pick
#5336
Ochayethenoo
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From: Green Point, NSW
Bikes: Lemond MJ Classic, Klein Palomino, Felt TK2 Track, Daccordi vintage
I feel compelled to moan....
On the subject of price, how expensive are bikes/parts in Aus?
I paid $5600 for a Klein palomino race, RRP $6600, A buddy back home bought one for 1200 pounds, even at a crap exchange rate thats only $3600!!!
Next: LBS tried to sell me a carbon bidon cage, $120... mate back home bought one last month, $30, again only $90 at the worlds worst rate....!
Next: Nike shoes, 100 pounds in UK, $650 in Aus....
Anyone know why?
On the subject of price, how expensive are bikes/parts in Aus?
I paid $5600 for a Klein palomino race, RRP $6600, A buddy back home bought one for 1200 pounds, even at a crap exchange rate thats only $3600!!!
Next: LBS tried to sell me a carbon bidon cage, $120... mate back home bought one last month, $30, again only $90 at the worlds worst rate....!
Next: Nike shoes, 100 pounds in UK, $650 in Aus....
Anyone know why?
#5337
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BTW, Friday will be ultra-hot, so recovery ride is in the morning before breakfast. Flat, Slow, but Early.
You're welcome to join use if you want Mr climbo, but there'll be no sleeping in this time.
You're welcome to join use if you want Mr climbo, but there'll be no sleeping in this time.
#5338
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Originally Posted by pshaw
I feel compelled to moan....
On the subject of price, how expensive are bikes/parts in Aus?
I paid $5600 for a Klein palomino race, RRP $6600, A buddy back home bought one for 1200 pounds, even at a crap exchange rate thats only $3600!!!
Next: LBS tried to sell me a carbon bidon cage, $120... mate back home bought one last month, $30, again only $90 at the worlds worst rate....!
Next: Nike shoes, 100 pounds in UK, $650 in Aus....
Anyone know why?
On the subject of price, how expensive are bikes/parts in Aus?
I paid $5600 for a Klein palomino race, RRP $6600, A buddy back home bought one for 1200 pounds, even at a crap exchange rate thats only $3600!!!
Next: LBS tried to sell me a carbon bidon cage, $120... mate back home bought one last month, $30, again only $90 at the worlds worst rate....!
Next: Nike shoes, 100 pounds in UK, $650 in Aus....
Anyone know why?
The 'elite' cyclist of the world would never force prices up like that. Not just to be l33t, no way.
#5339
Ochayethenoo
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From: Green Point, NSW
Bikes: Lemond MJ Classic, Klein Palomino, Felt TK2 Track, Daccordi vintage
what time, where, how long?
#5340
Originally Posted by rockmuncher
BTW, Friday will be ultra-hot, so recovery ride is in the morning before breakfast. Flat, Slow, but Early.
You're welcome to join use if you want Mr climbo, but there'll be no sleeping in this time. 
You're welcome to join use if you want Mr climbo, but there'll be no sleeping in this time. 
#5341
Originally Posted by rockmuncher
It must have been the smoke
COUGH.... COUGH... ******** ...COUGH... GOOD....ENOUGH....
Congrats on the Win and Out, whatever that is!
[Edit] Sounds like an elimination trial... (ie. last rider eliminated until two left to sprint for glory)
COUGH.... COUGH... ******** ...COUGH... GOOD....ENOUGH....Congrats on the Win and Out, whatever that is!
[Edit] Sounds like an elimination trial... (ie. last rider eliminated until two left to sprint for glory)
#5342
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Originally Posted by climbo
I'll see...what time?
Originally Posted by pshaw
what time, where, how long?
Last edited by rockmuncher; 01-12-05 at 05:34 AM. Reason: missed a guy
#5343
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Originally Posted by climbo
That's miss and out, win and out is backwards, winner of the first sprint after 4 laps wins the race (and can quit), every lap after that, the winner gets 2nd, 3rd, then 4th place. 2 guys went out fast and everyone let them go, I waited until lap 4 and chased them down and passed them in the last turn. 

How woz that smoke? It woz thick as blazes around 6:00pm. Couln't see across the bay, and it was clearly visible within 5m! total BS.
#5344
Steel is Real
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From: Melbourne, Australia
Bikes: Pinarello Sestriere (steel) with Veloce 10 speed & Campagnolo Shamal Ultra wheelset, De Rosa Vision (Alu) with Chorus 11 and Campagnolo Bora One 50 wheelset Bianchi 1885 with Centaur groupset and Zonda wheelset 2003 GT Avalanche 0.0 MTB
[QUOTE=Thylacine][obligatory road bike speak] I think my next road frame will be steel, with carbon stays, carbon seat tube, and pearl white paint with gold pearl in the clearcoat. [/obligatory road bike speak]
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Wait a minute......my bike is steel and pearl white.......oh....no carbon though....Sounds like an unreal bike to me!!
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Wait a minute......my bike is steel and pearl white.......oh....no carbon though....Sounds like an unreal bike to me!!
#5345
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From: Melbourne, Australia
Bikes: Pinarello Sestriere (steel) with Veloce 10 speed & Campagnolo Shamal Ultra wheelset, De Rosa Vision (Alu) with Chorus 11 and Campagnolo Bora One 50 wheelset Bianchi 1885 with Centaur groupset and Zonda wheelset 2003 GT Avalanche 0.0 MTB
Originally Posted by Johnny_Monkey
Are you guys aware that there was an article about the Melbourne 'hell rides' in the Weekend Australian on Saturday?
Since then the letter writers have come out with the for and against arguments re cycling. In this morning's Australian some guy was saying that they should stop selling adult bikes altogether. What a dickhead.
Since then the letter writers have come out with the for and against arguments re cycling. In this morning's Australian some guy was saying that they should stop selling adult bikes altogether. What a dickhead.
#5346
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Bikes: Pinarello Paris; Avanti Blade Comp; Tommasini X-Fire; Merckx San Remo 76.
Originally Posted by Thylacine
Civil rights are the core of our society. What sort of society or any institution blackmails you into participation by saying "You can participate, but I'm sorry, you have to waive some of your basic rights. I hope that's okay."
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It's an awfully slippery slope. With that logic, theoretically your parents or legal guardian could sign a 'contract' on your behalf when you were a child that effectively waives all your rights. By your understanding, that would be 'okay' because it would be 'legal'.
Personally, I don't have that much faith in the legal system, our reactionary popularist leaders, OR anyone else for that matter.
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It's an awfully slippery slope. With that logic, theoretically your parents or legal guardian could sign a 'contract' on your behalf when you were a child that effectively waives all your rights. By your understanding, that would be 'okay' because it would be 'legal'.
Personally, I don't have that much faith in the legal system, our reactionary popularist leaders, OR anyone else for that matter.
One of the problems with drugs in sport is that most of the athletes are young and dumb - there was a survey done a few years ago where athletes were asked he question "if taking performance enhancing drugs enabled you to win an olympic gold medal but significantly shortened your lifespan would you take them?" The majority of them said they would. Some people need to be protected from themselves.
It seems that the AFL crackdown is for recreational drugs which seems a bit odd.
And no, parents can not sign contracts signing away civil and human rights as that would be an illegal contract and unenforceable. Also you would assume that a parent generally knows what best for their kids whilst they are still minors.
#5347
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Originally Posted by Hitchy
Oi johnny,
what was the 'gist' of the articles?...can you post a link?
hitchy
what was the 'gist' of the articles?...can you post a link?
hitchy
#5348
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testing


for some reason the bigpond host site is sometimes shrinking my pics, but other times not
https://vmartin.bigpondhosting.com/photos.htm
one moment the pics are this size:

Next time I look on the host site, they're this size:

any photo loading experts out there?
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for some reason the bigpond host site is sometimes shrinking my pics, but other times not
https://vmartin.bigpondhosting.com/photos.htm
one moment the pics are this size:

Next time I look on the host site, they're this size:
any photo loading experts out there?
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#5349
Steel is Real
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From: Melbourne, Australia
Bikes: Pinarello Sestriere (steel) with Veloce 10 speed & Campagnolo Shamal Ultra wheelset, De Rosa Vision (Alu) with Chorus 11 and Campagnolo Bora One 50 wheelset Bianchi 1885 with Centaur groupset and Zonda wheelset 2003 GT Avalanche 0.0 MTB
Originally Posted by 531Aussie
testing
#5350
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Bikes: Thylacines...only Thylacines.
No idea man. I try to keep my files under 100k, and I generally upload from my hard drive or link from the Thy website. What did you do differently between posting that last pic and posting the second last pic?
Speaking of which, some late night fun......
Speaking of which, some late night fun......




