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don d. 01-31-05 02:14 PM


Originally Posted by lotek
Me Offended? farque no.

point taken.

Don.d I'm not saying that Ernesto's current offerings are junk, I just think that
he did his best ca Mexico, super. I agree that Gios has remained the most
true to origins.

Marty
(who's this other "marty" bloke? and why is he signing my name?)

Well, you said that Colnago's offerings had more cache then than they do now. My question is how did Colnago's offerings significantly differ from the other Italian racing bike frames available then to give them this cache?

I think his products then were more like everyone else's than they were different and his products today are more different than everyone else's than they are the same, giving them more cache. And if his products in the 70's were more similar to others than they were different, can they really be called his best work?

I think he has really hit his stride in the last 5 years, given technology has removed the limitations holding his obvious creativity back.

But I suppose the real question is, does he talc or not?

rockmuncher 01-31-05 03:37 PM


Originally Posted by pshaw
Thats not your new bike in R'about is it? I saw some litttle kids wipin their jammy fingers over it ;)

Steel is real Munchie!

Nope. It's hangin in the window at Bikecology. Yellow and white with a large GITANE sticker down one of the tubes. And it's up too high for the little kiddies to touch. :)

Al is your pal.

lotek 01-31-05 03:38 PM

Don.d

For me (and I really can't talk for anyone else) his earlier bikes
had more appeal. Were they significantly better than say De Rosa? nope
for the most part they were pretty much the same (have I contradicted
myself more than twice now?). I think the big difference was that Ernesto
was much better at marketing his marque than the others. Given the
association with the pro peloton and it was more akin to Trek/Lance
than true innovation (back "in the day"). For me a Pogliaghi has more
cache, but again thats personal preferrence.
I don't think that being different has anything to do with cache, its more
the ride, not the brazing, not the file marks.
Given that Ernesto probably spec'd tubulars I'd say he didn't talc. . .
and thats as far as I'm going on that one.

Marty

Brian 01-31-05 03:42 PM


Originally Posted by rockmuncher
Nope. It's hangin in the window at Bikecology. Yellow and white with a large GITANE sticker down one of the tubes. And it's up too high for the little kiddies to touch. :)

Al is your pal.

Munchie, nothing wrong with Al, I agree. You didn't answer my post on the previous page though.

Thylacine 01-31-05 04:31 PM

If you ignore the geometry, the euro-trash paint jobs, and the sloppy finish work, Colnagos are excellent bikes! They're even better if you talc your arse and pull your Assos bibs on. Then you're getting the true Italian experience. ( Don't forget to push your seat all the way back, too.) :)

ed073 01-31-05 04:36 PM


Originally Posted by Thylacine
If you ignore the geometry, the euro-trash paint jobs, and the sloppy finish work, Colnagos are excellent bikes! They're even better if you talc your arse and pull your Assos bibs on. Then you're getting the true Italian experience. ( Don't forget to push your seat all the way back, too.) :)


seat waaaaay back, A foot of carbon seatpost hanging out of the frame, 14cm stem jammed down on the head tube and shorts and sleeves rolled up, Mario-style.

Now you're cool...:D

rockmuncher 01-31-05 04:56 PM


Originally Posted by Expatriate
Munchie, nothing wrong with Al, I agree. You didn't answer my post on the previous page though.

It's less a case of not answering, and more a case of requiring approximately three lifetimes to understand WTF the question was. I have aherd of cattle working on a solution as we speak. :D

Brian 01-31-05 05:09 PM

Ok. Did I not make myself clear enough when I ordered/they were stoopid, or were they having an anti-seppo day? Sometimes I can't tell.

rockmuncher 01-31-05 05:39 PM


Originally Posted by Expatriate
Ok. Did I not make myself clear enough when I ordered/they were stoopid, or were they having an anti-seppo day? Sometimes I can't tell.


Oh that. No they were just extremely deficient in brainpower. Collectively they could summon the wit and wisdom of a stillborn hamster

wattsy_rules 01-31-05 08:29 PM


Oh yeah, welcome home Wattsy. Did you end up finding a job?
Nope, still looking. Had about 10 interviews, but no one is recognising my huge talents.

rockmuncher 01-31-05 08:53 PM


Originally Posted by wattsy_rules
Nope, still looking. Had about 10 interviews, but no one is recognising my huge talents.

I went through a long period of "no one loves me" too a few years back. It wasn't pretty for me or my family, but it was the same for thousands of us who all got caught in the IT jobmarket crash. My problem was that I didn't have a Plan B, and it almost ended in tears.

Keep knockin' on those doors, and always with a smile on your face :)

531Aussie 01-31-05 08:57 PM

Is that how you ended up in the pubic service?

rockmuncher 01-31-05 09:06 PM

Yes and no. Technically I'm not in the PS, rather a consultant (read scum), but I'm back in the same place that I used to work when I was in the PS.

Hitchy 02-01-05 01:43 AM


Originally Posted by wattsy_rules
Nope, still looking. Had about 10 interviews, but no one is recognising my huge talents.

....is that the same 'huge talent' you used to P!ss on roddicks shoes?.:D. you might be better leaving the 'one eyed trouser monster' away!

Hitchy

badsac 02-01-05 02:48 AM


Originally Posted by rockmuncher
My problem was that I didn't have a Plan B, and it almost ended in tears.

Eh? What's a Plan B?



Originally Posted by rockmuncher
Yes and no. Technically I'm not in the PS, rather a consultant (read scum), but I'm back in the same place that I used to work when I was in the PS.

WTF? How do you get sacked from the public service? I've never heard of such a thing!

rockmuncher 02-01-05 03:15 AM


Originally Posted by badsac
WTF? How do you get sacked from the public service? I've never heard of such a thing!

One does not get sacked from the Public Service. One becomes a contractor, then returns to the scene of the crime some time later earning roughly twice the salary for the same work. Only then can you be sacked, or be requested to become a public servant. I don't see the difference really.

badsac 02-01-05 03:36 AM


Originally Posted by rockmuncher
One does not get sacked from the Public Service. One becomes a contractor, then returns to the scene of the crime some time later earning roughly twice the salary for the same work. Only then can you be sacked, or be requested to become a public servant. I don't see the difference really.

Eh? So your long period of "no one loves me" was bought about by your good self trying to screw the tax payer for more money as a contractor? Fair enough I guess. :)

Brian 02-01-05 03:44 AM


Originally Posted by badsac
Eh? So your long period of "no one loves me" was bought about by your good self trying to screw the tax payer for more money as a contractor? Fair enough I guess. :)

Good work if you can get it. Being an imported worker, I know where the good wages are, which is why I'm looking for gov't jobs. Although some utilities seem to be paying well too.

SJP 02-01-05 05:57 AM


Originally Posted by Expatriate
Good work if you can get it. Being an imported worker, I know where the good wages are, which is why I'm looking for gov't jobs. Although some utilities seem to be paying well too.

I used to work in a Call Centre and i know the analysts and project managers made ***** loads of money.

bikecarmel 02-01-05 09:33 AM

Hey guys, who wants to buy Robbie McEwens bike ??? check this out :
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...131931116&rd=1

Hey and its a shame that Hewitt didnt win Safin I thought he had better chances after I saw him all the way I think that hes now playing the best tennis of his life but he could not keep it against Safin.Do you now understand the feelings of the French when they have to see non french people winning the tour de France year after year.
Oh and Hewitt's girlfriend is HOT.yes.

rockmuncher 02-01-05 03:35 PM


Originally Posted by badsac
Eh? So your long period of "no one loves me" was bought about by your good self trying to screw the tax payer for more money as a contractor? Fair enough I guess. :)

No, it was brought about by a dramataic and sudden downturn in the number of available jobs in my field. As for screwing the tax payer, I can only say that self-interest far outways any moral atttitudes that I might have harboured when I was younger. In the words of the hooker, "you have to be prepared to screw anyone to make a decent buck".

badsac 02-01-05 07:37 PM


Originally Posted by rockmuncher
No, it was brought about by a dramataic and sudden downturn in the number of available jobs in my field. As for screwing the tax payer, I can only say that self-interest far outways any moral atttitudes that I might have harboured when I was younger. In the words of the hooker, "you have to be prepared to screw anyone to make a decent buck".

I still don't get why you were unemployed. Because you were sacked by the public service (unheard of), or you thought contracting would be safer (crazy). Help a simple public servant out. ;)

rockmuncher 02-01-05 07:50 PM


Originally Posted by badsac
I still don't get why you were unemployed. Because you were sacked by the public service (unheard of), or you thought contracting would be safer (crazy). Help a simple public servant out. ;)

Saccy, I had been contracting for many years. PS life was only a distant memory. After I left the PS in 1998 I contracted to GEIS for a short while, then helped to relocate the ASX, then helped to relocate Citigroup, then the shit hit the fan.

climbo 02-01-05 08:08 PM


Originally Posted by bikecarmel
Hey guys, who wants to buy Robbie McEwens bike ??? check this out :
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...131931116&rd=1
.

****, I'm a little short this month. Can you all hold off bidding so I can score it when it runs again. :) Anyway, it ain't my size !! :(

ed073 02-01-05 08:11 PM


Originally Posted by climbo
****, I'm a little short this month. Can you all hold off bidding so I can score it when it runs again. :) Anyway, it ain't my size !! :(


They're kidding themselves if they think it will get to the buy now price.


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