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Old 09-23-04 | 09:40 PM
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3 recontructions......FARK!!

I assume from football?

I retired at 18 after a not so stellar year with Oakleigh under 18s. There was no way I was gunna play VFA seniors back in 1985; it was frightening enough playing against the Sunshine, Brunswick and Yarraville juniors!

......all footy, retired after the 3rd, (hey, I'm a slow learner alright!!!). Played down the bush (I'm originally a Sth Gippy boy), arrived in 'the smoke' to go to uni (way back when), played some local footy in the ammo's & with east brunswick in the now defunct Federal league (i think it's now de**** cos all the clubs got suspended!).....you reckon Brunswick & sunshine was scary....you wanna play against Nth heidelberg, Broady bombers, or fitzroy Stars (all Aboriginal team).......half our side would pull hammies on the thursday nite before these games!!!.......I actually had a few runs with the 'Wickers when Jacko was there in the mid 80's.......jacko in the change rooms without any teeth was as scary a sight as I'd ever seen!!!

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IT project managers don't need to know how to spell, that's what spell-checkers are for. Project managers barely knowing how to work a computer seems to be a common trend, I've been able to bull**** my way past everyone I've ever had
Hhhhhmmmm, funny, I've had a few data b*tches and Techo monkeys try this. It worked when I was a young PM, but now most of my teams tend to understand the consequences of getting on my bad side...I'd like my chances with you BS!!
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played some local footy in the ammo's & with east brunswick in the now defunct Federal league (i think it's now de**** cos all the clubs got suspended!).....you reckon Brunswick & sunshine was scary....you wanna play against Nth heidelberg, Broady bombers, or fitzroy Stars (all Aboriginal team).......half our side would pull hammies on the thursday nite before these games!!!.......
You guys don't know what rough is. I played in the Ballarat league where half the teams were on day release from various prisons. They were some scary ass mothers!!
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Did you do that for comfort, or 'coz you're big?

I assume you deliberately built a longish head-tube for the "bend over" height you wanted. How long is it?

No braze on?

Are they standard or "old" diameter tubes?

48mm rake: how's that going?

I tried a DT RR1.1 as a rear wheel but didn't like it; thought it was a bit too flexy. I suppuse it could've been the build.
Bit of both. Anyone over say 5ft 10 could benefit from a slacker seat angle and longer stays - adds a bit more comfort in theory and gives you a more central CG. I think the current emphasis on super steep and short is pointless for anything excpet the tightest crits.

My frame is technically a 62cm, so the head tube is not 'extended' - the frame just looks smaller than a regular 62cm because I designed it that way The only tube oversize by modern steel standards is the seat tube which is a ø31.8 - most steel roadies have a ø28.6. The top tube is ø31.8, down tube ø35. The seat tube is the second highest loaded part for the frame ( second to the down tube ) - that's why I went bigger there.

48mm rake is pretty cool. Took a little to get used to, mainly because this is my first roadie in quite a few years, but I like the feel. The faster you go, the better it is...it's quite amazing. I was doing 85kmh down that hill between Gisborne and Melton, and it felt like I was standing still.

I quite like the wheels so far Nev. They're not super stiff, but stiffness ain't that important to me. So far no flats, and no truing needed after the initial settling in period. I wouldn't mind something else, but these things are light as sin and accellerate really well.
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[QUOTE=Thylacine]Bit of both. Anyone over say 5ft 10 could benefit from a slacker seat angle and longer stays - adds a bit more comfort in theory and gives you a more central CG. I think the current emphasis on super steep and short is pointless for anything excpet the tightest crits.QUOTE]


I like it.....straight from the Greg LeMond school of framebuilding.
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You guys don't know what rough is. I played in the Ballarat league where half the teams were on day release from various prisons. They were some scary ass mothers!!

.....Ppphhhsssttt....you only woulda played against the ones that were silly enough to get caught!!......mate, the Broady bombers used have the back of a divvy van as the coaches box.....coppers reckoned it saved time!. I remember once the coach gave his 1/4 time address in handcuffs!......In the under 19's one day I wandered down to my opponent who pulled out a flick knif from his socks & told me "I'm already having a bad day...you kicking goals on me would just depress me more"!.....needless to say Hitchy didn't get a sniff that day!
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Boyz...I've got Brownlow slideshow #2....Piss funny.

Anyone who wants it, PM me your e-mail address and I'll send.
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Bit of both. Anyone over say 5ft 10 could benefit from a slacker seat angle and longer stays - adds a bit more comfort in theory and gives you a more central CG. I think the current emphasis on super steep and short is pointless for anything excpet the tightest crits.QUOTE]


I like it.....straight from the Greg LeMond school of framebuilding.
I can't think of anything worse than a 74º/74º degree frame with 40mm of rake and 410mm stays. I'm sure Greg would agree, although I'm sure he'd say whatever Trek told him to anyway, just like Keith and Zap. *tugs pretend chain attached to collar around neck*

Man, that file took a fair bit of opening Ed. Anyway, a top afternoons viewing.

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Old 09-24-04 | 12:35 AM
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Hi All,

I'm planning on doing my first metric century tomorrow morning, and thought I'd ask the advice of the experts in the aussie thread. For anyone here that knows Tassie, I'm headed from Kingston to Richmond via Grass tree hill, and back via Cambridge. Only one climb that I can think of.

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"Eat before you're hungry and drink before you're thirsty", as they say.

One minute you're cruisin' along at the 75km mark, thinking, "jeez, I don't even need fuel" -- next minute....BANG...dizzy wizzy, etc,
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Old 09-24-04 | 12:46 AM
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"Eat before you're hungry and drink before you're thirsty", as they say.
One minute you're cruisin' along at the 75km mark, thinking, "jeez, I don't even need fuel" -- next minute....BANG...dizzy wizzy, etc,
Thanks Aussie,

Any suggestions on what sort of food to carry?
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Old 09-24-04 | 12:53 AM
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Thanks Aussie,

Any suggestions on what sort of food to carry?
anything high carb, low fat..big feed the night before, pasta or rice, spuds. On the day,muesli bars, narnas, drink lots even if you're not thirsty,......of course we expect a report 1st thing monday morning!....richmond is where that really cool old bluestone bridge is????....think I got p!ssed in the pub there while 'er indoors' bankrupted me in the antique shops!,

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Old 09-24-04 | 12:55 AM
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.....forgot hitchy's favourite glucose injection.......jelly beans!
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Old 09-24-04 | 12:59 AM
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anything high carb, low fat..big feed the night before, pasta or rice, spuds. On the day,muesli bars, narnas, drink lots even if you're not thirsty,......of course we expect a report 1st thing monday morning!....richmond is where that really cool old bluestone bridge is????....think I got p!ssed in the pub there while 'er indoors' bankrupted me in the antique shops!,
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Thanks Hitchy,

Richmond is the home of Australias oldest (Standing) bridge. Lots of good tourist stuff there too.
Should be a great day. Nice cool, but fine, weather, planning on starting early so I can still catch the AFL grand final. Thats if I don't collapse in a heap after.
Report will be posted on Monday.

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Originally Posted by 531Aussie
"Eat before you're hungry and drink before you're thirsty", as they say.

that was Bernard Hinault.


could ride a bit.
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Old 09-24-04 | 01:05 AM
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that was Bernard Hinault.


could ride a bit.

personally i think 5 TDF's is overated!.....I mean a seppo's got 6!.......how hard could it be????
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.....and a Paris-Roubaix, 2 x Liege, 2 x Lombardy etc etc
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Geez Hitchy, was that you at that pub in Richmond? heh, heh.

I love that part of the world. The GF and I borrowed a Kombi and drove around Tassie for two weeks about 4-5 years ago now. One of the best trips ever.

Now, if they could only do something about the weather

Dave, you'll collapse in a heap no doubt - but that's why they invented couches and beer.....and football probably.
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Old 09-26-04 | 04:55 PM
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Hi All,

Glad to report I actually survived my first metric century

I headed out of Kingston around 8am. Very pleasant, a few clouds, a light breeze and a nice cool 9 degrees to start my first small climb over the bonnet into the city.
Not too many people at Salamanca market this early in the morning, but still a nice place to be riding. From Hobart I’ve followed the bike track to the show grounds in Derwent Park, and then headed for the Bowen Bridge. Around here, I’ve met up with another rider going the same way. So we’ve helped each other out a bit until we get about half way up Grass Tree Hill. By then I was holding him up, so I send him off to enjoy his ride. As it turned out, he was only going to the top of the hill and back to Hobart, so I thanked him for his help as he coasted back down the hill to Town. So I made it over Grass Tree, and headed for Richmond. Stopped to fill the water bottle and have a feed, before doing the obligatory ride over the Richmond Bridge and then starting towards Cambridge. As I head into Cambridge, I check my distance. *****, only 60km down and 30ish from home. It feels wrong, but I head away from home and towards the airport. After about 6km I turn around and finally start heading for home. A quick stop at the servo in Cambridge to fill the water bottle, again, and then off towards the Tasman Bridge. As I come off the bridge, I realise that I’m still a few K’s short of making the 100, so again, I head in the wrong direction and back to New Town on the bike track. At least it’s flat. Time to make my way home. Back though Hobart, Sandy Bay, Taroona and over the bonnet to Kingston. This is my usual commute, and surprisingly I felt pretty strong on the last hill. As I’m coming a beautiful descent home I see the odometer tick over to 100km’s. Absolutely stoked!

After the ride, I’ve had another litre of water before settling in for beer and bbq, and to watch the AFL Grand Final on the projector that I’d borrowed from work.

Some stats from the cycle computer
Distance: 102.09km
Total Time: 4 hours 22 minutes
Ride Time: 4 hours 5 minutes
Avg Speed: 25.21km/hr
Top Speed: 61.5km/hr

Thanks for you’re advice guys. I made sure to eat and drink plenty during the ride, and felt pretty damn good the whole time

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Well done Dave......You'll be up for the 'Great taswegian bike Ride' next........

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Old 09-26-04 | 05:19 PM
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Well done Dave......You'll be up for the 'Great taswegian bike Ride' next........

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Remind me one day to post "Ed's Great Vic Bike Ride of 1993" memoirs....classic stuff. Freeloaded the whole thing....girls, beer, more girls....and some bike riding. Including an ill-advised sojourn up Mt Buffalo on the rest day with a hangover.
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Thanks guys.

the Great taswegian bike ride sounds awesome. Pitty I've already planned a climbing trip to Arapiles next year.

Would love to hear all about "Ed's Great Vic Bike Ride"

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Great Vic Bike Ride?......more like 4000 folks on a pub crawl across the state!...get up, eat, go hard....in the pub by lunch time....repeat perscription until ride over.....I vaguely remember the night a naked young lady fell off the roof of a pub in,( ???geez now where was that) to the applause of 2000 drunken blokes....copper closed the pub shortly after...much to the publicans disgust!....still we had a whip around & bought an '18er' thru the back door...took it back to camp (in a recumbent......set it up in hitchy's tent........gawd...thankfully next day was a rest day!

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Great Vic Bike Ride?......more like 4000 folks on a pub crawl across the state!...get up, eat, go hard....in the pub by lunch time....repeat perscription until ride over.....I vaguely remember the night a naked young lady fell off the roof of a pub in,( ???geez now where was that) to the applause of 2000 drunken blokes....copper closed the pub shortly after...much to the publicans disgust!....still we had a whip around & bought an '18er' thru the back door...took it back to camp (in a recumbent......set it up in hitchy's tent........gawd...thankfully next day was a rest day!

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Yep...that sounds exaclty like it. After about 2 days, it took on a kind of "Lord of the Flies" air and the rules of the outside world no longer seemed to apply.
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