I should look around...I found a Miller High Life one earlier this year.

Updated the spreadsheet - I am in for a medium jersey.

I think I got in on the spreadsheet. I marked XL for a jersey and bibs

Had a real good visit with Danielle and Britt at Primal yesterday. You get a 'feel' when you walk into a cycling-centric place like that. Everyone commutes, everyone goes on the lunch ride, and the place had that fresh jersey smell.

I have forwarded enjoi's design to Primal and am awaiting official word on pricing. The jersey is really a no-brainer - there are three different materials, but the basic material is the signature Primal feel and what my current jerseys are made of. The two elite levels are really unnecessary for our needs as I feel they may price some of us out of the buy.

Regarding size: The Hot Head jersey I posted is definitely an older pattern (2004). They have never made a 'race' cut, but have boiled down their pattern to one, called the 'sport', which is in between club and race. This is what the Old Style jersey is. Sleeves are not loose, fit is tight and overall is closer to race than club cut. At 6'1"/192 (losing it!), I am a solid L at this point.

The bibs may be sticky as there are many different opinions and preferences on this. I'll try to summarize.

There are three materials and three chamois levels. The basic material is a little thicker, but it gave me the impression it would fare well in a crash (not that this is what we should look forward to). The upper two materials were thinner and very supple, but also very strong. Silicone grippers on the leg sleeves.

The chamois: the basic level was nice, and probably better than anything I have ridden, including my favorite, Santini. The middle level was noticeably nicer, but the elite leve chamois looked and felt like a slice of heaven had been placed upon my sit bones. Holy Moses it was nice. It is also expensive. All are Italian.

rpenpmanparker, no worries on the shorts - they can be rolled into the bibs, but will cost the same. I am awaiting confirmation, but I believe I understood that once the Team Site is set up, those who want shorts/bibs can choose their material and chamois so we don't all have to get the same thing. The same may be true with the jerseys.

I am confident we can get this done with the materials I saw. This is not your Nashbar bib, these guys do this and only this. My daughter was with me and is a snowboarder. She asked if they have considered going into that market, and their response was that they do cycling and they do it well, said with no arrogance, but with confidence.

As soon as I get the pricing info, I'll share it here and on the spreadsheet.

great to hear!! Good job bro! Make this happen!

Nice job RT!

Awright, here's the skinny on price and selection. They do have a race cut jersey, but it is the most expensive one. I was also wrong in thinking we could mix the level of material/chamois, so we will have to take a vote on which level we like and not price people out of the buy. From interest so far, we may end up only doing a run of jerseys first unless bib/short interest picks up.

CHAMOIS TECHNOLOGY (click, then scroll to the bottom)

The least expensive jersey was fine by my standards, and their sizing chart runs true. The L is truly a good fit on me, but I have an XL that I got this season (Ace of Spades) that fits well, er, as well.

As for the bibs, I have never paid half of $150 for bibs, but that chamois was tempting. What say you all on level/price for the buy? Frankly, I am fine with the basic level, but need to hear from the masses on this. If you are so inclined, you might stop by a Performance to see how the sizing runs on each.

Lastly, I have added a column on the sheet for full-zip or 3/4-zip.

EDIT: The design we sent was the all black bib - what do we think about a navy cuff?

Forgive me if this is a dumb question of if it's already been answered ... but what's the difference between these two?

The $75 Q3 jersey is lighter, but still as supple. Not made for cold winters. Shape and cut are the same.

Here is the tech page.

I don't care about the navy stipe one way or another. I vote for cheapest models in both jerseys and bibs/shorts. Even the cheapest of these is very high grade stuff. Thanks for clarifying the bibs vs. shorts situation. Sounds good. What do you mean about Performance? Do they carry this brand under the Primal name, or is it one of their house brands? Thanks.

No, it is Primal. Every Performance carries it. I agree on the least expensive bibs, but after what I saw yesterday, the jersey is a tossup at only $5 difference and the same cut.

Thanks!

In for a medium full-zip Q3.

Cool, please go here to indicate your interest. Almost to 12 jerseys.

Oops! I see you now.

I don't mind going with the lighter, slightly more expensive jersey. Considering I live in Houston, that is really my first choice. I just didn't want to be the guy pushing other folks to spend more.

Going to try this tagging thing.

#41kit

Jersey please: XL

keep it up guys!! id do the lighter jersey, and the base bib or shorts i dont care either way they are good.

People are missing the spreadsheet. There are a lot of users who'se names I collected in the older thread and in the beginning of this thread who are not on the spreadsheet.

After seeing the posts regarding the size xhart, I would like to change my jersey size to an XXL. I beg your pardon, but i do not see a spreadhseet.

Brian J.

I've never had much luck with sizing charts. Would I be correct in assuming that if I have a Primal jersey in size L then these would be more or less the same? Mine are only a year or two old. Not sure the cut but they are close fitting for me in that size. Thanks for all the hard work.

Here ya go.

I have been trying to include a link to the sheet each time I mention it, but please keep funneling them that way when possible.

K, I think David Broon should take the time to update the original post with the new info and link.

We're up to 11, need 15 for jersey. Bib/short interest is half that. What are everyone's thoughts on doing a jersey run if we hit 14 (I would pick up up the extra) and save shorts for a second run, if interest increases?

My biggest concern is that we get them done and only 6 or 7 actually visit the website to buy the jersey.

You have to have gmail to use the spread sheet. Maybe some folks don't and are put off by it. If David Broon and you would compile a list of nicknames of everyone who ever expressed interest, I wouldn't mind P messaging them (or a share of them) to see how many we can get to commit.