The New and Improved HotRNot Thread
#2951
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Joined: Jul 2014
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From: Indianapolis Indiana
Bikes: Salsa Spearfish 3 - VeloLucuma PoloLoco - Specialized Roubaix SL4 Comp Disc - Salsa Mukluk 2 - Salsa Vaya 2 - Specialized Vita (Wife)
57" VeloLucuma Polo Frame.
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#2955
Newbie
Joined: Apr 2014
Posts: 46
Likes: 21
From: Covina CA
Bikes: Specialized Allez Elite, Specialized Sirrus Sport
How did you end up with a spanking new, old stock bike? I like it BTW
#2957
Overall it looks quite nice, attractive in a girl-next-door sort of way, but the chainrings look oddly flat and bluish, like an old pie pan. Also, stem and bars are rather gawky.
#2958
wears long socks
Joined: May 2015
Posts: 1,614
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The long skyward pointing stem on top of a huge stack of spacers makes the bike look like a hybrid cruiser.
#2959
King Hoternot
Joined: Jun 2010
Posts: 5,255
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From: Oregon City, OR
Bikes: 2015 Cannondale Evo Hi mod
I'm surprised this bike is getting off so easy. The only thing I find impressive about this bike was 9 years old and found brand new. Other than that, it is far from anything most people would take a second look at. Understand that I'm not saying it is a POS. I'm basing my opinion strictly out of aesthetics and visual appeal (Or lack there of). Plain stock bike with upright and non aggressive position (Which includes a tower of spacers + flipped upward stem). Saddle Bag connected to a saddle that looks like a flaccid wiener. Tires that dont line up with the valve stems and borderline cross chain.
Very much a plain 'ol ordinary stock bike. Not
#2961
I'm surprised this bike is getting off so easy.
...I'm basing my opinion strictly out of aesthetics and visual appeal (Or lack there of). Plain stock bike with upright and non aggressive position (Which includes a tower of spacers + flipped upward stem). Saddle Bag connected to a saddle that looks like a flaccid wiener. Tires that dont line up with the valve stems and borderline cross chain.
...I'm basing my opinion strictly out of aesthetics and visual appeal (Or lack there of). Plain stock bike with upright and non aggressive position (Which includes a tower of spacers + flipped upward stem). Saddle Bag connected to a saddle that looks like a flaccid wiener. Tires that dont line up with the valve stems and borderline cross chain.
You talk about spacers, tire alignment, valve stems, and, of all things, cross chaining... stuff you have to know the meaning of in order to look for - and some of it you really have to look for to find. I'm not saying that once you see them they don't have an aesthetic impact - they do, but only to a connoisseur's eye, or to those to whom such flaws have been pointed out.
What's appealing is the big picture, and especially the fine balance of black and silver, not only on the frame graphics, but the whole thing. That's basic aesthetics and visual appeal that hits you right away, something that anyone can appreciate, and something which many bikes that get the details right fail to achieve.
#2962
King Hoternot
Joined: Jun 2010
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From: Oregon City, OR
Bikes: 2015 Cannondale Evo Hi mod
Well, I don't know that it's getting off easy.
You talk about spacers, tire alignment, valve stems, and, of all things, cross chaining... stuff you have to know the meaning of in order to look for - and some of it you really have to look for to find. I'm not saying that once you see them they don't have an aesthetic impact - they do, but only to a connoisseur's eye, or to those to whom such flaws have been pointed out.
What's appealing is the big picture, and especially the fine balance of black and silver, not only on the frame graphics, but the whole thing. That's basic aesthetics and visual appeal that hits you right away, something that anyone can appreciate, and something which many bikes that get the details right fail to achieve.
You talk about spacers, tire alignment, valve stems, and, of all things, cross chaining... stuff you have to know the meaning of in order to look for - and some of it you really have to look for to find. I'm not saying that once you see them they don't have an aesthetic impact - they do, but only to a connoisseur's eye, or to those to whom such flaws have been pointed out.
What's appealing is the big picture, and especially the fine balance of black and silver, not only on the frame graphics, but the whole thing. That's basic aesthetics and visual appeal that hits you right away, something that anyone can appreciate, and something which many bikes that get the details right fail to achieve.
#2963
Hey guys here is my contribution to the thread, tell me what you think. I have mostly been on track/fixed gear bikes but made the switch to road and have been building up this Focus for a couple of months. It was apart of a local college's team set up. pretty basic so far but that is to change. Sorry if this is not the right thread for this just thought I would share.
After a nice ride and wash:
After a nice ride and wash:
#2964
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Joined: Jul 2012
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From: Atlanta GA
Bikes: '13 Spech Roubaix SL4 Expert
Hey guys here is my contribution to the thread, tell me what you think. I have mostly been on track/fixed gear bikes but made the switch to road and have been building up this Focus for a couple of months. It was apart of a local college's team set up. pretty basic so far but that is to change. Sorry if this is not the right thread for this just thought I would share.
After a nice ride and wash:

After a nice ride and wash:

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#2965
Maybe you don't see it right away but I do. Obviously there is no right or wrong opinion here though, so of it is appealing to you, then so be it. I judge my votes based on if I would take an immediate hard second look. I don't look at a bike as if I was at an art expo, by staring at it for long periods of time trying to see the bigger Over all picture. To me, a HOT bike is hot before you have the chance to look over the details.
#2966
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Joined: Jul 2012
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From: Atlanta GA
Bikes: '13 Spech Roubaix SL4 Expert
Here is a little nicer picture. This bike certainly does not photograph well. The color is much nicer in person. Wait til you see one. There is only one upgrade pending and it is a Contact SLR carbon stem. It will be 120mm once I get used to the new geometry which has not given me any problems. It will be VERY aggressive with time.
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#2967
Hey guys here is my contribution to the thread, tell me what you think. I have mostly been on track/fixed gear bikes but made the switch to road and have been building up this Focus for a couple of months. It was apart of a local college's team set up. pretty basic so far but that is to change. Sorry if this is not the right thread for this just thought I would share.
After a nice ride and wash:

After a nice ride and wash:

#2968
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Joined: Jan 2015
Posts: 1,351
Likes: 3
From: Madison, IN
Bikes: 2015 Jamis Quest Comp
Here is a little nicer picture. This bike certainly does not photograph well. The color is much nicer in person. Wait til you see one. There is only one upgrade pending and it is a Contact SLR carbon stem. It will be 120mm once I get used to the new geometry which has not given me any problems. It will be VERY aggressive with time.

#2969
i love this bike. i say hot.
but to qualify as hot, as per the "rules" of the New and Improved™ thread it needs a picture without:
light
bottles
stem spacers
light(?) mount on the bars
somewhat OT: did you consider other frames before coming to this one? hows the ride quality?
[MENTION=397038]12strings[/MENTION] host it somewhere like imgur, then paste a link inside
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but to qualify as hot, as per the "rules" of the New and Improved™ thread it needs a picture without:
light
bottles
stem spacers
light(?) mount on the bars
somewhat OT: did you consider other frames before coming to this one? hows the ride quality?
[MENTION=397038]12strings[/MENTION] host it somewhere like imgur, then paste a link inside
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#2970
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Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 2,844
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From: Atlanta GA
Bikes: '13 Spech Roubaix SL4 Expert
i love this bike. i say hot.
but to qualify as hot, as per the "rules" of the New and Improved™ thread it needs a picture without:
light
bottles
stem spacers
light(?) mount on the bars
somewhat OT: did you consider other frames before coming to this one? hows the ride quality?
but to qualify as hot, as per the "rules" of the New and Improved™ thread it needs a picture without:
light
bottles
stem spacers
light(?) mount on the bars
somewhat OT: did you consider other frames before coming to this one? hows the ride quality?
I honestly think that this bike is worth a try. I understand how being caught up in the lightest and most aero is what iis "in" now but good riding quality and stiffness is what this bike is all about. It is not the lightest or most aero, but it is a PURE RACE BIKE. Which is what I want. After all, 14.8 pounds with cages, power meter and GPS holder aint that bad either.
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#2971
Here is a little nicer picture. This bike certainly does not photograph well. The color is much nicer in person. Wait til you see one. There is only one upgrade pending and it is a Contact SLR carbon stem. It will be 120mm once I get used to the new geometry which has not given me any problems. It will be VERY aggressive with time.

#2972
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Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 2,844
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From: Atlanta GA
Bikes: '13 Spech Roubaix SL4 Expert
#2973
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Joined: Jan 2015
Posts: 1,351
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From: Madison, IN
Bikes: 2015 Jamis Quest Comp
TESTING...

EDITED TO SAY: "hey, it worked! Thanks mumonkan!"
EDITED TO SAY: "hey, it worked! Thanks mumonkan!"
#2974
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From: Atlanta GA
Bikes: '13 Spech Roubaix SL4 Expert
#2975
The only other bike I really wanted was a LOOK 795 but was a little beyond budget. I am not that picky about my bikes. The sponsor we got said we could get the best deal on Giants and that is what we went with, however, I can say that this bike rides like nothing I've ever ridden before. I think Giants don't get the badass rep that bikes like Tarmacs, Pinas and Treks do but these bikes may be the best bikes out there. The only bike I'd consider on top of this one would be a Venge Viias Sworks.. which is $13k.
I honestly think that this bike is worth a try. I understand how being caught up in the lightest and most aero is what iis "in" now but good riding quality and stiffness is what this bike is all about. It is not the lightest or most aero, but it is a PURE RACE BIKE. Which is what I want. After all, 14.8 pounds with cages, power meter and GPS holder aint that bad either.
I honestly think that this bike is worth a try. I understand how being caught up in the lightest and most aero is what iis "in" now but good riding quality and stiffness is what this bike is all about. It is not the lightest or most aero, but it is a PURE RACE BIKE. Which is what I want. After all, 14.8 pounds with cages, power meter and GPS holder aint that bad either.
seems im looking for the same kindof thing (race oriented, <15lbs) so this is good news
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