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Old 07-15-14, 06:57 AM
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I understand that as you read this, the energy bar company has their legal team working on a statement and that a team of design engineers and nobel prize laureates have been gathered from across the planet to study how to make them easier to unwrap and eat while riding. New designs and materials are being considered. The story on velo news is that Contador needed to exert too much force to unwrap the bar, which caused him to lose control.

This has been an ongoing problem since the bars went to a mylar wrapper. It has been the cause of many crashes around the globe. Many in the cycling community are thrilled that this problem is coming to light. It has been ignored for too many years.
Clearly, they need carbon fiber wrappers.
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Originally Posted by StanSeven
People here seem to think there are on-site senior Specialized Management saying things.
Incorrect. You need to be upset with Specialized. We are told on national television that Contador wrecked because his frame broke. Then Specialized (not people on the internet) came out with conflicting explanations, each statement given as a fact. And some of you seem to be in shock and awe that there are people who would actually dare question Specialized given all that. They handled it horribly.
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Clearly, they need carbon fiber wrappers.
MUCH better than the old steel wool wrappers that were used years ago.

The latest update on Velo News reports that the ergonomics design team at MIT has joined the team.
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Originally Posted by DXchulo
The cover-up is worse than the crime. Seems plausible that it broke on the roof, but Specialized was way too quick putting out their BS statement and following up with other lies. You can't get away with that kind of crap these days. Too many people with cameras and too many people on Twitter with a seemingly endless supply of free time.

Full disclosure: my main bike is a Specialized.
It depends on what the meaning of the word 'is' is.
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Originally Posted by etw
MUCH better than the old steel wool wrappers that were used years ago.

The latest update on Velo News reports that the ergonomics design team at MIT has joined the team.
Steel has been non-competitive for a decade or more, at least, but there is something about it I just really like. Can't put my finger on it.

I'm waiting to switch when electronic wrappers finally hit the market.
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Originally Posted by DXchulo
The real story isn't really known, mostly because you can't believe what either Specialized or the team is saying at this point. Show me proof that it happened on the roof rack. Haven't seen it yet. There's no way to rule out that the frame broke during a crash.
Not true. You can believe whatever makes sense for you to believe. Deciding a priori that you cannot believe something because it comes from Specialized is no way to operate a sensible investigation. Witch hunt, yes. Investigation, no. This is ridiculous.
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Originally Posted by rpenmanparker
Not true. You can believe whatever makes sense for you to believe. Deciding a priori that you cannot believe something because it comes from Specialized is no way to operate a sensible investigation. Witch hunt, yes. Investigation, no. This is ridiculous.
In order to assess your credibility, can I ask you if you ride a specialized or ride or wear any specialized gear.
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Originally Posted by rpenmanparker
Not true. You can believe whatever makes sense for you to believe. Deciding a priori that you cannot believe something because it comes from Specialized is no way to operate a sensible investigation. Witch hunt, yes. Investigation, no. This is ridiculous.
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What would you expect from this forum where the focus is about 80% on equipment and around 20% on actual riding?

This incident is like a lifetime supply of crack for the 41.

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I can't believe I am actually first in with the explicit observation that this is being handled on all sides just like the attack on the US consulate (aka CIA outpost, aka shack) at Benghazi. Same missteps on the side of the stake holders. Same type conspiracy theories from the side of the antagonists. This is classic. Just wait until the Sunday weekly sports wrap up shows. I wonder who Sinyard will send to make the rounds of the shows and "explain" what happened. Doesn't matter, nobody will believe her anyway. ROTFLMAO
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Originally Posted by Lazyass
Incorrect. You need to be upset with Specialized. We are told on national television that Contador wrecked because his frame broke. Then Specialized (not people on the internet) came out with conflicting explanations, each statement given as a fact. And some of you seem to be in shock and awe that there are people who would actually dare question Specialized given all that. They handled it horribly.
Sorry but you have no argument. There is no problem with questioning Specialized, but just as with the crash, you can't prove what Specialized motivation for putting out a false narrative when the truth is much more flattering. Further you don't even know if the story is actually from Specialized or some misconstruction or hearsay.
Truth appears to be that the team car was hit which broke the frame. This is reinforced by the bike being perfectly clean on the sloppiest of days over many miles. Don't you think Specialized would have said this if it were known from the beginning? They didn't have the information obviously and you don't know if what was stated in the press was pure conjecture from Specialized....Specialized merely positing what happened.
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Anybody who is afraid to continue riding his 54 cm/M Specialized late model, top-of-the-line frame can send it to me. PM me for particulars.
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Originally Posted by Nachoman
In order to assess your credibility, can I ask you if you ride a specialized or ride or wear any specialized gear.
Nothing except Specialized shoes. I have steel, Ti and Giant carbon frames.
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Anybody who is afraid to continue riding his 54 cm/M Specialized late model, top-of-the-line frame can send it to me. PM me for particulars.
Nabali said his is going to tied up for the next couple of weeks on his way to winning the TdF.
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Originally Posted by Campag4life
Nabali said his is going to tied up for the next couple of weeks on his way to winning the TdF.
Based on the opinions expressed in this thread I am afraid he is crusin' for a bruisin'. He had better get rid of that thing while he still can.
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Originally Posted by rpenmanparker
Based on the opinions expressed in this thread I am afraid he is crusin' for a bruisin'. He had better get rid of that thing while he still can.
No kidding...he'll either crash or get sued by spesh.
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Originally Posted by rpenmanparker
Based on the opinions expressed in this thread I am afraid he is crusin' for a bruisin'. He had better get rid of that thing while he still can.
Specialized better circle the wagons. Out of 200 riders in the TdF probably over 50 are on Tarmacs...lol.
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Originally Posted by Bob Dopolina
Did you see the photo of the bike being pulled from the BELKIN car?

The BELKIN team manager has already confirmed the accident.

There is no story.
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Originally Posted by Campag4life
Specialized better circle the wagons. Out of 200 riders in the TdF probably over 50 are on Tarmacs...lol.
I know. I have never seen anything like it. Every rider straddling his bike before and after the race and being interviewed as he fastens his helmet is standing there with a big S head tube sticking out in front of him. I can't imagine there has ever been anything quite like that in the history of bike racing. Total dominance in numbers at least.
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I know. I have never seen anything like it. Every rider straddling his bike before and after the race and being interviewed as he fastens his helmet is standing there with a big S head tube sticking out in front of him. I can't imagine there has ever been anything quite like that in the history of bike racing. Total dominance in numbers at least.
Kind of like Ducati in the WSBK championships during the 1990's. 12 Championships between 1990 and 2006, the ducati cup pretty much.
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What if the simplest explanation is true: they drove into a garage and forgot about the bike on the roof?
For the record, I've used Specialized tires a couple of times.
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I bet he didn't buy that bike from his LBS. Damn counterfeiters.
He was "just riding along" when that all happened....
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Kind of like Ducati in the WSBK championships during the 1990's. 12 Championships between 1990 and 2006, the ducati cup pretty much.
You're saying something a little different, that Ducati dominated the winner's circle. I'm saying that everybody (exaggeration) in the race is riding the same brand bike. It is likely Specialized WILL dominate the podium, but whether or not, it is amazing that there is such a consensus about what is the best bike. Or is it just "follow the money"?
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Originally Posted by rpenmanparker
You're saying something a little different, that Ducati dominated the winner's circle. I'm saying that everybody (exaggeration) in the race is riding the same brand bike. It is likely Specialized WILL dominate the podium, but whether or not, it is amazing that there is such a consensus about what is the best bike. Or is it just "follow the money"?
I meant the same. During those years the Ducati to "other brand" ratio was something like 5 to 1. The field was 15 Ducatis and 3 hondas for example, then ducati celebrated their wins. Same here with Spesh.
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Originally Posted by Bob Dopolina
Did you see the photo of the bike being pulled from the BELKIN car?

The BELKIN team manager has already confirmed the accident.

There is no story.
That blurry picture doesn't prove anything. It could have been broken already.

Like I said, the roof rack thing is plausible. NBC Sports seems to have ****ed up on their reporting. No real surprise there.
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Originally Posted by znomit
He said a cow ran in front of him. Nobody else saw the cow.
It was an internet video of a cow. And the cow was saying something about clenbuterol....
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