yeah your right, its on the outer dropout. whats the advantage of the washer being on the inside? i'm guessing less slippage against the track nut..
its harbor blue Rustoleum, pretty damn close!

The frame is designed for the washer to be on the inside. NJS frames are all either 123mm or 113mm rear spacing instead of 120 or 110.
Guess what the 3mm is for? ;)

this might be a far fetched guess but maybe .... 1.5mm of tensioner washer on either side ? :P

http://blessedsacramentomaha.org/big-prize-color.gif :D

i am winnar!

speech! speech!

Dharem, what the hell is doofo doing out?

I dont know. I havent heard from him :(
I can post under his name if itll make people feel better. :)
He and I swapped passwerds. :)

Would you also sleep with me if it makes people feel better? ;)

pics?

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/e...n/3RENSHO1.jpg

OMG!

... probably not NJS approved, though. 8)

That is crazy Jussi! Who's is it?

Go ahead and click the image, it's that other blog... there's no info yet, though.

that thing=the sex

So the mad frame above is:

"3Rensho World Cycling Championships Frame

Made by 3Rensho master builder Yoshi Konno for Masamitsu Takizawa, AKA "The Monster," to be raced in the World Cycling Championships. Not NJS approved."

Its off of Gabe's site and yes that frame is CRAZY! I hope someone does pick it up. I just want to see that thing built up. :)

TDHK

those prices are crazy compared to PL's blog.

agreed.

but can someone page gabe to tell us more about that 3rensho? and maybe discuss his pricing policy as well. :rolleyes:

prices are "crazy" but people are STILL paying those prices, so really he has no reason to change his pricing.

i won't lie, i was eyeing his black sparkle nagasawa with disco decals , but it was sold for a calm 1030$ shipped or something

He sure does have quite a lot of nice frames listed, though. Won't someone just hook me up with a grey Samson, 55.5x56ish, bullet shaped seat lug, chrome chainstays for $500 Ohhh how I wish...

$3800 OHHHH MYYYYYY

I'm friends with Gabe, I'll see what info I can get on that insane 3Rensho.

he already posted info on his site....

I completly agree that he can price them as he wants. I think if I were doing this as a hobby i would try and keep the markup minimal. I mean i'd already be having fun shopping for frames all the time, might as well keep them affordable for the kids in America. i can dream i guess.

The difficult part about having a markup so high is that he sets the prices for other sellers. Just look at supermarukai (sp?) They don't even post their prices, which I fell is a little shady. I have asked for prices on their frames and was surprised at some of them, like 1000 for a Makino. They can set the prices where they want but it def makes it harder for us to get "good prices on them." It determines the the prices for other sellers. The best priced deal I think I have found as of late and missed out on was a 54.5 Makino on KC for 700, deep marron with rainbow flake and chrome rear triangle I believe no dents/scratches. I was pretty heartbroken when I saw that it was sold. Oh well

TDHK
* do I really need another frame?