i would hate riding my bike if i stopped for (most) red lights.

I find this is the hardest one to practice. Parked cars just aren't the same.

(and while I'm being a smartass, I don't disagree that this is actually extremely important, like in martial arts where the first thing they teach you is how to fall and not e.g. break your wrists)

(aside) i'd just like to acknowledge your strangers w/ candy reference and thank you for it. thanks.(/aside)

Yeah, kind of how Ford Motors has been proactive in curing breast cancer. Banner flying, fake tattoo distributing, mallcred bull*****.

I'm not hating because Puma is Big Biz. I'm hating cuz they're half-assed. If puma really gave a rats ass about fixed gear/track riding, they'd sell a real bike, not some slingshot/brompton/integrated cablelock ripoff POS. A super-ltd edition lugged frame with sick paint. Give that thing away as an alleycat prize, proceeds from the race going to the emergency messenger fund.

If they were the least bit serious, they'd come out with a decently stiff pair of shoes and a rain jacket. But no. Sweatshopped leisurewear as far as the eye can see.

Cultural poaching will always be part of the corporate toolkit. Puma just sucks at it.

Puma=SHOES AND SPORTSWEAR, why the hell would they make a super limited edition track frame? It's a german company first of all, and super limited edition italian track bikes are allready limited enough. Let the sportswear makers make apparel, and the framebuilders can make bikes. And FYI, Puma does make a decent rain jacket, just go into a proper running store, and they did used to make decent bike shoes, I think I can recall a certain Greg Lemond wearing them. They were just pushed out by more popular brands. Are they half-assed now that you know that? Rant on Puma if you want, but I see no problem with a company that wants to contribute to a scene that not only could use the support, but appreciates it. If you want to see Puma implement the ideas that you came up with, then write them. How do you think these things come to fruition?

cultural poaching? get off your fücking high horse. repairing the surface at kissena is about the best thing anyone could do for track cycling in this city. far more beneficial for the sport than giving some messenger a fancy bicycle

POS

Did you remember your meds?

Resurfacing Kissena was a cool move. Impressed by the hostility, chief. Pooma still sucks, tho. Maybe a little less than other SHOES AND SPORTSWEAR KORPORATIONS.

start on the right, end on the left.. run them diagonally!

can't we all just get along?

Now excuse me, i gotta kick back in my adidas' now.

just a tangential reference to the topic and contents of this thread: puma and adidas were founded in the same city (Herzogenaurach, DE) by two brothers (Adolf and Rudolf Dassler). this is where the name Adidas comes from. in german, a common shortening of Adolf is Adi, so his company is named with the first letters of his names (adi dassler). in the beginning the two worked together but differences between the brothers led to Rudolf splitting off and founding his company, Puma. To this day both companies have their HQ in Herzogenaurach, though Adidas has a fairly long history of ownership change.

personally i prefer adidas to puma, but both of them manufacture their gear in southeast asia anyway, so take that for what it's worth. and ride your damn bike, ffs.

why are you posting? shouldn't you be out fighting traffic and getting doored? quit slacking and get yo ass to work... oh and next time we have a get together your ass better be reachable... no lame excuses!

I appreciate this more as a statement about spor's (crazy) riding style. I am taking out life insurance on you, man. Thats easy money!

How to run a red light:

1. Roll down windows.
2. Turn up "Remix to Ignition" by R.Kelly
3. Take left hand off steering wheel, make a fist and raise in the air.
4. Take right hand off steering wheel and making "indian wooping" noise, ala Hollywood.
5. Close eyes.
6. Floor it.




(assuming of course, you are driving the copany Hummer)

+1

I wanna go in on this.

I have no idea what you're talking about, I consider myself a very safe and sane rider.



I just have magic powers.

Can you take out life insurance on people you don't otherwise know? Man, that would be a crazy market.

I mean, damn, the economics would be amazing.

/nerd
//detached

people'd be getting wacked left and right... I have a few people in mind that I wouldn't mind collecting some insurance on...

no sinister smilie to use... or burns saying 'excellent...'

Well, theres dead pools... They're kinda fun.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_pool

wouldn't it be fixed gear 201? i mean, most courses jump a level.

eddie's on point. if it will sell and you don't need it, ****ing sling it! who cares what someone's doing with it on the other end.

my friend was selling worn pairs of *dark* socks to some dude for 6 months at $20 a pair. $20 a day for wearing socks is pretty awesome.

What's wrong with the design of the bike. It's made for the masses. A company like that specializes in mass marketing. Selling a bike like that makes sense to me. ANother way of making your logo visible. I don't know about the durability of the bike, but everything that's there seems to makes sense. Minimalist, low-maintenance, and a design that's well thought out for joe-average. Frankly, if the bike and clothes weren't designed for you, marketed towards you, and you don't wear the stuff, why do you care so much? You have nothing to do with the company except for harbour your own opinion, yet if you ride kissena even once, you'll have benefitted from them. Ease up there bud. Puma never hurt you.

i ride through redlights all the time. where it gets tricky is riding between cars against traffic and going through an intersection at rush hour. bob and weave its like football. except you dont hit anyone unless someone opens their car door on you.

pumas involvement in track cycling is a trade. they offer support and in turn get "street cred" and advertising opportunities. if the collective culture and community didn't want them around, they wouldn't have the opportunity to be involved. obviously that's not the case. i personally prefer my life as corporation free as possible, but to each his/her own.

plus they make those vegan friendly shoes for the kids who say they're vegan then go eat steak with their parents.

You strike me as the kinda poseur-rebel clown who in ten years from now will be the corporate lackey, sitting behind a desk. Dollars to donuts says you're whoring yourself out writing advertisement, trying to push the latest in feminine hygene products or tasty cereal.

Good luck.