yay ****

Crap huh? You'll never get it. Your apathy is sad.

Just want to set the record straight about this comment, as it is very misleading. This is a topic I know quite a bit about and can speak about with some authority.

Even if we had good relations with Cuba, this would have been of little help. There were already too many people involved in that rescue when the offer came, as opposed to too few. Integrating teams that America/NYC hadn't trained with, hadn't reviewed protocols with, and hadn't properly vetted, would have added to the problem, not solved it. Moreover, removing "thousands" of doctors from Cuban hospitals would have grossly taxed the Cuban health care system infrastructure and as such would have been a grave mistake. So this example you've given is a poor one.

By the way, Fairfax County USAR Task Force (VA-TF1) and the 57 member International Medical/Surgical Response Team (IMSuRT) and a 6 member Management Support Team (MST) from the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) volunteered in Iran, Bam, following the earthquake of 2003 through USAID. Cuba is not alone in offering aid to an enemy in a time of need.
https://www.usaid.gov/iran/

American Medical Rescue Teams also volunteered for deployment to Al Queda saturated areas of Pakistan during response to the Kashmiri earthquake. Some of these volunteers had just arrived home from rescue work in New Orleans. They got along well with the Kashmiris and were able to save scores of lives in areas that had, up until the Americans arrived, seen no medical care following the quake. Bob Simon of 60 Minutes described the area one team of New York City Paramedics deployed to by saying, "This is Osama bin Laden country, dotted with training camps for jihadists, where Islam is at its most radical and America is seen as the enemy."
https://www.usaid.gov/locations/asia_...th_asia_quake/

Pictures of one of the US teams:
A Disaster Medical Team loading up a helicopter for transport to Kashmir


An American Field Triage in Kashmir.


A NYC Paramedic treating a child with bilateral femur fractures



And then there are the American Disaster Medical and Search And Rescue Teams that deployed to BOTH Sri Lanka controlled Sri Lanka AND Tiger controlled Sri Lanka during response to the tsunami.
https://www.usaid.gov/lk/

Critical Transport by an American Paramedic


An American Doctor and an Italian Ambulance Nurse examining a child at a Field Hospital in Sri Lanka


And let us not forget the American presence in Indonesia following that same tsunami. Not exactly a country we have great relations with either.

Patients being evacuated to a US Military helocopter


Field Triage in Banda Aceh

American and Iran were enemies in 2003?

Stop making sense, this is the SS&FG forum!

You can't seriously be asking this question.

maybe i'm blind, but what did you do that was illegal?

And speaking of Iran, some pictures of VA-TF1 from the Bam rescue:

yes i was.
but i forgot, every country is america's enemy.

If what you take away from my posting about overseas rescue missions (in response to the Cuba post) is this, then you are beyond help. These are pictures of Americans making sacrifices to save lives in countries with which we have problematic relations. American citizens putting politics on the back burner in the name of humanitarian aid. Volunteering to do so in the face of differing yet ever present degrees of life risk. These are pictures of the olive branch. I guess that (lack of) subtlety was lost on you. I may burn out from time to time, but I hope my heart never grows as cold as yours seems to be.

Are you gonna tell us all about this war with Iran in 2003 you were referring to?

In the name of fairness Deathhare could you elaborate on americas war with cuba during the time of hurricane katrina? I am having a hard time understanding the point you guys are trying to make against coldspoon.

No, he's going to make another redundant post about rescue efforts as if it has some merit to the points we are/were making earlier. Every time i made a comment about an INSTITUTION, not an individual person, he just spouted off something about someone putting their life in danger. He clearly didn't understand what you were saying and just took it as you being callous, which it may be(and rightly so), but that's not the point.

It's like being a member of the SS in nazi germany, and rescuing a few people in a dangerous situation. Does that make your position in life worthy of any valour?

Overly strong analogy, but maybe some people will get the point.

Countdown again to threadlock / "if u h8 amurikka so much u should leave" from someone that i'm suprised hasn't been flying already.

I never said there was a war with Cuba.

While it's not a constant physical battle, america has been working at destroying socialist cuba for nearly it's entire existence, and that is common knowledge to anyone.

Theres a large difference between IRAN/US relations circa 2003 and CUBAN/US relations of the last 50 years.

deathhare do you drive a rabbit?

yeah, 1979.

rad. pics in that VW/fixie thread?

Are you really this dense? A nation can be an enemy without being engaged in an active hot war. We have considered Iran an enemy of the United States ever since the hostage crises.

https://www.cnn.com/2003/US/12/27/iran.us.aid/index.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_hostage_crisis
https://edition.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/me...ust/index.html

None of that calls Iran an enemy.
If its just your opinion or how you feel towards them, thats fine, just say so.

yeah, its white.

My favorite VW color, at least for rabbit/gti.

Comparing a member of the NYPD who died on 9/11 to a member of the Nazi SS isn't "overly strong", it is offensive. No amount of backpeddling or or explanation changes the rank stupidity of such a comment. In fact, it really shines a light on the tin foil hat you must be wearing in order to spew such ignorant crap.

Um, you really need to step off. I'm a Jew. Iran's leaders deny my right to exist on this earth, aided the Nazis during WWII, and have denied the Holocaust happened. The problem isn't my hatred of the Iranian government, it is the Iranian government's hatred of me. Even so, I would have been willing to supply humanitarian aid to the people of Iran following the Bam quake in a heartbeat, and would have been willing to do so in the face of life risk. I quite sure this is more than you can say you'd do. I'm quite sure it is more than you have done. Tread carefully in your response, if any.

LOL You said step off. lol

And let me guess why....cause youre an 'american hero', right?

LOL, again

So basically, it was just your opinion as a Jew and you think everyone should think the way you do.
How typically American of you.