http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...ucks/steep.jpg

Even after I over-rotated it, it still looks pretty damn steep to me.

Yes I did. From the seller bikeisland.

To what are you referring?

to post 13112

Ah, thanks. Bikeisland is another subset of the BikesDirect/Sprtymama ebay sellers who have websites as well-----they are slowly taking over the internet bike wholesalers, their prices are pretty good.

As I said before, my 3Rensho is a winter project. I happened to find some new 36 spoke Shimano HB7600 flip/flop hubs, 100/110 spacing and 8 mm axles for about $100! In the box there is a notice that they cannot be used for radial lacing. What's the common wisdom about this? I wanted to do the front one radial.

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2...3Renshohub.jpg

So, so jealous.

If the box says "no radial lacing", and there isn't much material between those spoke holes and the edge of the flange anyways, I'd bet on radial being a crapshoot as far as keeping your wheel alive. If you really want it safe and radial, get a non-matching front hub that does endorse radial lacing (phil, zipp) and do that up. Otherwise, maybe a 1x or 2x pattern would be different enough to satisfy you?

stahu - TIGHTEST GEOMETRY EVERRRRRRRRR!

sorry to see your bike like that....

Thank for the concern.
I'm quite okay, not counting the torn ligament in left collarbone. I've cast all over my chest, excluding right shoulder/arm. Luckily my head is alright.

I didn't see it coming, she cut the turn on real narrow street. I tried to steer to the right, but didn't manage in time. She hit me with bumper under her left light. I went over the bars, and hit my shoulder on the hood, my head cleared the side of car by a couple inches.

she's going to be charged with a crime - don't know if it's a right word, something more serious than misdemeanor/offense.

thanks. I loved that bike, loved how it handled, how it rode, everything. That's why gonna have almost exact copy of it wit just a minor upgrades. But I've gotta wait 6 months for it. I'm thinking about changing the color scheme a little. Leavin the green, but makin the decals black or blue. e will see, got a couple of months to think about it.

ohh, and it's kawasaki green, not neon

The problem with radial lacing on all hubs it that the force of the spoke is put on that little, tiny slice of metal between the spoke hole and edge of the flange. Since you're putting the greatest force on the smallest area of metal, the flange will crack pretty easily.
If these flanges will crack from radial lacing:
http://pardo.net/pardo/bike/pic/fail...ur_cracked.jpg

Imagine what yours with the smaller flanges will do.

boy....with all the things going wrong on our planet today (war, hunger, poverty), this is the picture that makes me feel like crying. i gotta get a life.

Puttin' on the Raleigh cap:

Daily bike: '70s Raleigh Grand Prix--Nothing elaborate, bicylewheels.com formula/cxp22. A great all around bike for not getting noticed (except maybe the foot of seatpost).

New build: '76 Raleigh Competition--Nitto stem and bars, original headset, Brooks saddle, phil wood rear hub laced to open pro, miche primato front laced to open pro, campy crankset and bb.

A question on the rear dropout: I don't know if you can see in the picture, but my rear axle is a little close to the edge of the dropout front; not hanging over, just close. How okay is this? The chain came off my surly, so it's a little short....

thanks for that info

things you alway wanted to know but were affraid to ask

I ask my LBS to do a radial lace on my front wheel and they did a bit of a twist to it not a cross but intead of straight up they are all about two holes off set.
does that take some of the strain off that weak area?

edit: radial has horrible lateral strength.


2 cross takes a bit of the side to side flex out of the wheel, and makes it a bit stiffer for turning than a radial wheel, but it does'nt really take that much stress off of the hub, as compared to radial.


I think the funniest radial lacing mishap is when the whole outer ring of the flange cracks off, and makes a clean line break all through the spoke holes and metal adjacent.

Ah okay cool. Because I was looking at their wheelsets for $120, and I was a little suspicious. But if they're legit I'll go right ahead and follow through.



I love cheap crap.

Sorry to hear that - call my mobile or leave me a PM if you want a loaner frame (Polrad, square 57cm, nervex lugs, all chrome, Reynolds 531).

Anything not radial will take stress off of the weak spot of the flanges. It sounds like you're talking about 1 cross. It will be quite a bit stronger than radial, but still not bomb-proof. With hubs like the DA track hubs, they are meant to be 3x (with the spokes close to 90 degrees to a line drawn through the center of the hub) and anything less could be a problem. That being said, 2x would probably be fine and 1x is ok if you're light and don't ride too hard. For what its worth, radial has great lateral strength right up until it breaks.

it too bad I'm fat and ride hard.
I guess my next wheels will be 3x front and back . does Tuff wheel make a 700?

http://static.flickr.com/100/298847505_91a6ca2f58.jpg
i finished my winter commuter the other day so here are some pics. 50 cm IRO frame with a dolce vita carbon fork, ch headset, cheap risers cut down, orlys, bianchi seatpost, formula hubs laced to stupid deep v's, iro bb/crankset.
i added a fender b/c it's been raining like crazy in nyc recently. i also bought that damn large lock u see on the bike which get's in my way when i pedal. i want a smaller lock but those damn deep v's don't let me get a smaller u-lock. so if anyone has any suggestions please let me know.
http://static.flickr.com/102/298847499_75f1cc0e81.jpg
here is the front view
http://static.flickr.com/117/272664376_ba50cd01ba.jpg
here is the other set up with bullhorns. someone stole my bartape on the left side so i switched to risers

damn dylan...i can't believe someone jacked your bartape!!

That's a cute IRO. Do you know what kind of risers those are?

yea, i was really weirded out when they stole the bartape, it was just so random. i got the risers from kingkog for 13 bucks. i think they are some kind of bmx risers, they were just generic. i had to cut them on either side b/c they were so long. i was weaving through traffic the first day and the right side nearly took someone's mirror.
this is my ladies night drinking bike. so if any ladies in nyc want to join a group of us for drinks on tuesdays let me know. last week we played musical bikes and i ended up switch bikes with some girl who rides a small ass tt pursuit bike. totally turned me off to tt bikes. my face was way to close to the ground for my taste, but it was sexy as hell.

heres my current lock up wherever and no worries/ride to work bike...actually my only riding bike right now...why do i not worry about it. cheap wheels, it says what is most like read as "***'n" on it in about five places and no brakes...cheap wheels...primer'd top tube...it's worn in but it rides awesome.

http://myspace-746.vo.llnwd.net/0143...32327746_l.jpg

WTF. Who steals bartape? And one side?