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sweetbike 02-28-07 12:36 PM


Originally Posted by DerekRI
So wait, your bike is built with mash hub, and a mash headbadge, but you're not involved in mash? (or are you) Not trying to be an a$$hole, but what's up with that?

All these SF kids with track bikes alot of them are all about that Mash ****. eh, not me thou. Its fun bombin down the hills, Doing skid tricks while lighting a ***, and no handed track stands while hopping, but to me it wont help you go faster on a track bike. I understand they wanna represent, so more power to them.. But if one of you mash kids can bomb down the hill on Filbert St. between Hyde and Leavenworth (steepest hill in SF), ill be all about that mash **** and get a mash coffee mug.

jim-bob 02-28-07 12:44 PM


Originally Posted by sweetbike
All these SF kids with track bikes alot of them are all about that Mash ****. eh, not me thou. Its fun bombin down the hills, Doing skid tricks while lighting a ***, and no handed track stands while hopping, but to me it wont help you go faster on a track bike. I understand they wanna represent, so more power to them.. But if one of you mash kids can bomb down the hill on Filbert St. between Hyde and Leavenworth (steepest hill in SF), ill be all about that mash **** and get a mash coffee mug.

Dang, you hardcore.

fatbat 02-28-07 01:01 PM


Originally Posted by jim-bob
I think they claimed that cantilevering the axle out there would actually buy you some comfort.

That or they did it because gary klein wasn't, I dunno.

Also, i think it helped them with tire clearance in the back- before the advent of s-shaped seat tubes, it could be tough to clear the rear tire with the fat aluminum seat stays cannondale used.

visitordesign 02-28-07 01:18 PM


Originally Posted by dutret
by the way your bike is nowhere near as ridiculous as the other pointlessly expensive status symbols people have been posting recently.

i feel so dejected. my yamaguchi was never bathed in dutret-snark after it left the drawing-board.

dutret 02-28-07 01:24 PM


Originally Posted by visitordesign
i feel so dejected. my yamaguchi was never bathed in dutret-snark after it left the drawing-board.

No, because your yamaguchi appears, at least to me, to be designed to ride well not just look at or trash with tricks it isn't strong enough to hold up to. My original problem with it was your misconceptions about the characteristics of a tt bike and if I remember correctly yamaguchi built you a frame more like what I recommended(points + shifty bits) then the tt + track ends you originally talked about.

I don't mind expensive bikes... Expensive bikes built purely as status symbols are what offend me.

andypants 02-28-07 01:27 PM


Originally Posted by dutret
I don't mind expensive bikes... Expensive bikes built purely as status symbols are what offend me.

What about bikes that are built to be fun to ride?

andypants 02-28-07 01:28 PM

Oh, P.S., More photos.

dutret 02-28-07 01:31 PM


Originally Posted by andypants
What about bikes that are built to be fun to ride?

I guess it depends how you define fun. If by fun you mean a finely tuned machined that it perfectly suited to the type of riding you are doing with it then I whole heartedly support that. It seems like a lot of people think fun is being seen on something expensive but poorly performing or just silly looking. I have no problem with silly looking either as long as it's not thousands of wasted dollars of silly looking.

sniks 02-28-07 01:38 PM


Originally Posted by dutret
I guess it depends how you define fun. If by fun you mean a finely tuned machined that it perfectly suited to the type of riding you are doing with it then I whole heartedly support that. It seems like a lot of people think fun is being seen on something expensive but poorly performing or just silly looking. I have no problem with silly looking either as long as it's not thousands of wasted dollars of silly looking.

what if its just over a thounsand?

andypants 02-28-07 01:46 PM


Originally Posted by sniks
what if its just over a thounsand?

Excellent budget hunting! Especially with a phil hub (durable and smooth), DA crank(top of the line race) and a Concept(Light aluminum with and excellent strength to weight ratio.)

dutret 02-28-07 01:46 PM


Originally Posted by sniks
what if its just over a thounsand?

That was figurative. I suppose the exact relationship would vary based on how silly looking is and how impractical. In general probably only a few hundred.

sniks 02-28-07 02:19 PM


Originally Posted by dutret
That was figurative. I suppose the exact relationship would vary based on how silly looking is and how impractical. In general probably only a few hundred.


I love you come give me a hug.
then we can go do one leg skids holding hands. I just want you to feel loved.
let the hate go.

Bluechip 02-28-07 02:20 PM

Yes, it is a Cannondale. It's my old 3.0 from around '89 or so. All the dents are original, at least the ones you can see in the pic. The Cervello stickers look pretty good in the picture but up close the carbon look of the stickers doesn't blend in as well. I guess I can't let anyone get too close. I will post a close up later.

I am using an ENO hub and it has been trouble free for over the last couple of years.

Igneous Faction 02-28-07 02:27 PM

There was a dude in Philly last year that rode a C-dale conversion of the same era.

I loved his, I love yours. So clean and distinctive.

Aeroplane 02-28-07 02:43 PM


Originally Posted by Bluechip
Yes, it is a Cannondale. It's my old 3.0 from around '89 or so. All the dents are original, at least the ones you can see in the pic. The Cervello stickers look pretty good in the picture but up close the carbon look of the stickers doesn't blend in as well. I guess I can't let anyone get too close. I will post a close up later.

I am using an ENO hub and it has been trouble free for over the last couple of years.

Excellent. I love the stickers.

jonb 02-28-07 02:52 PM


Originally Posted by dutret
No, because your yamaguchi appears, at least to me, to be designed to ride well not just look at or trash with tricks it isn't strong enough to hold up to. My original problem with it was your misconceptions about the characteristics of a tt bike and if I remember correctly yamaguchi built you a frame more like what I recommended(points + shifty bits) then the tt + track ends you originally talked about.

I don't mind expensive bikes... Expensive bikes built purely as status symbols are what offend me.

how does my tange, which was built to be ridden, which strays from the keirin/njs/deep v assembly line, offend you? its a bicycle that i ride often, that i worked to afford, that i appreciate and enjoy. how is that offensive? i chose it for reasons other than style, i picked components that i wanted to try, i used my imagination, and i didn't let anyone dictate which of those components should be on the bike. last night i rode in the rain, because when i got home from work it excited me and i couldn't sit inside. i ride the the bike and i appreciate what it does and how it does it, i don't walk it down valencia street while looking at myself in the mirror.

besides 'being made by slaves' how is that offensive?

DoshKel 02-28-07 02:55 PM

It is hip to be offended.

dutret 02-28-07 03:08 PM


Originally Posted by jonb
how does my tange, which was built to be ridden, which strays from the keirin/njs/deep v assembly line, offend you? its a bicycle that i ride often, that i worked to afford, that i appreciate and enjoy. how is that offensive? i chose it for reasons other than style, i picked components that i wanted to try, i used my imagination, and i didn't let anyone dictate which of those components should be on the bike. last night i rode in the rain, because when i got home from work it excited me and i couldn't sit inside. i ride the the bike and i appreciate what it does and how it does it, i don't walk it down valencia street while looking at myself in the mirror.

besides 'being made by slaves' how is that offensive?

The advantage of the frame is that it's stupid light and possibly stiff. Taking a stupid light frame and putting heavy components on negates that advantage. Taking a stiff frame and putting clips and straps on it does the same. Those cranks? Over priced pieces of **** but ones that clearly show how much money you can throw around.

So you ride it in the rain. What is your point. I never cared about whether bikes get ridden or not or how much they are abused(in fact I oppose the later when a better suited bike could be used). Rather, not being built for how they will ride and last for their intended use but for how they will look is what I oppose.

DoshKel 02-28-07 03:15 PM

So in other words, you are so completely selfish that you feel indignation from how others ride their bicycles and set them up?

Real cool bud. You should probably write articles for Glamor magazine about how you are offended by other people's clothing choice. Thats pretty much how much your words are worth.

ryand 02-28-07 03:18 PM

So what you are saying is dutret should be rich and tell middle aged women what is in style?

I want to see more bikes.

DoshKel 02-28-07 03:20 PM

Your right Ryan.

Show your Noni again :).

dutret 02-28-07 03:21 PM


Originally Posted by DoshKel
So in other words, you are so completely selfish that you feel indignation from how others ride their bicycles and set them up?

Real cool bud. You should probably write articles for Glamor magazine about how you are offended by other people's clothing choice. Thats pretty much how much your words are worth.

No, I just have little respect for people who do **** to show off how much money they can waste. It saddens me that that this is a significant part of the culture of this forum, probably worse then any other segment of riders(at least roadies and mtbers want their bling to perform.) Therefore I will continue to bash these disgusting displays of conspicuous consumption and one upmanship of cliched aesthetics. Plus it wastes time at work.

jim-bob 02-28-07 03:23 PM

http://www.trainweb.org/panama/old/trainwreck.jpg

tonym 02-28-07 03:24 PM

thank you Mr. White

http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s...y/P1000551.jpg
http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s...y/P1000557.jpg

just built it up like that for a week to see what it was like
a very enjoyable bike to work on
however, its getting all new parts

ryand 02-28-07 03:25 PM

gorgeous.


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