My neighbor picked up a Shamal wheelset for $600 MAJOR JELLLAZZZZZ

Nice; was it completely original? Logo type?

I wanted to haggle but the owner didn't seem the type to and my wife wouldn't be so happy especially after spending the upwards of more than what your neighbor payed plus a zero to the end of that number and what the LBS owner wanted for the set I saw.

would you guys cry if i sold a complete bike with gipemme tecno416 wheels[they ARE shamals] for $450?

because that happened last weekend.

You got a good deal; well on your part.

Although they are similar, gipemme's are not equal to shamal's; they're equivalent of knockoff's; in modern perspective, weinmann DP18's to velocity deep v's. They are heavier.

I think I still have a set of tecno416's back home in the basement; I got the set for cheap ($100 I recall) because they were tubular and the owner flatted the rear.

http://www.btt.com.ar/foto/o/11/89/1...shamal_r26.JPG
These. Looked original to me, don't know though

Yup those are it! Those were the ones the LBS I went to had too. BUT with the exception of some ugly aftermarket hub (I know seriously, WTF, still wanted $500).

Your friend still paid a quite a bit more than they are actually worth.

Today I'm getting ready to practice for swimming. We have a huge meet Thursday all the way down in south Missouri... should be an interesting time.

In other news I get the Earl back from the LBS on Thursday. New bars, brake levers and tape. I'll post pics when I get it, should look awesome!

$600 for a shamal wheelset seemed like it was pretty good to me

They're 20+ years old and long obsolete from my higher end roadie standpoint. Basically you're only paying for looks/ street cred... considering the like, hplusson formation face's, can be had for much cheaper.

Good point. They look flashy! I wouldn't mind some!

check facts before post.

gipemme made campys hoops.

Still technically knock offs/ generic OEM through.... but not the hub! ;) And who built the wheels and printed their logos on it?

It's like saying phil hubs are made by alcoa because they provided the aluminum.

today, it's been hard to look at the threads because whenever i see "leuky's" new avatar, i get scared.

but seriously after trying twice before, and failing, i finally climbed all the way to the top of Griffith Park without stopping. felt good.

Similar but not equals. As I mentioned before.

i wont argue about this but your statement makes no sense.

how can gipemmes be knock-offs [read: copies] if they are the manufacturer?

I was just saying from a literal/ consumer sense.

The shamal/ vento came out before and gipemme decided to make their own at a cheaper price to undercut, unauthorized by campy. Hence why I called them knockoff's from my terminology (I have a business background).

EDIT: I'm not saying that I don't believe you on the point that gipiemme was a supplier.
I'm trying to say they were a competitor who had a very similar wheel; but not equals.

Did my first race over the weekend. Criterium. Flat as a pancake. I was pulling the tailing pack for about a lap and a half, nobody wanted to rotate so I had to wave them by me. Went to the back, then the guy I was tailing started to fall away from the pack. I sprinted in front of him, and during my effort to catch the pack, I got bad pedal strike around a corner. Ate ****. Chewed up my shifter pretty bad, ripped my shorts and the jersey I was borrowing, and cracked my crabbon fiber fork. Lesson learned. I think I'd be more of a RR guy. I have endurance and climbing... corner, sprint, corner, sprint, corner just isn't my jam.

The fun of crits. Maybe next time go out with a cheap SS that has track geo

The bad part is that I was on a road bike. I was just over-confident of my ability to pedal through corners. Stupid, stupid, stupid. Again, lesson learned. I can't wait to get back in the saddle and do another one, needless to say.

oof.... at least you're okay. Yeah, the road bike part is very embarrassing but shiet happens....

Glad you are alright. And don't worry: I has a similar fall about a month or so back.

Today I realized I really want a road bike and/or a cyclocross bike. CX looks so fun.

Me too man. Too bad I live in FL, the slowest state to catch on to CX.


I'm really lucky I got out with just abrasions, but most of all I'm glad that I didn't cause anyone else to crash.

Today I learned that I'm allergic to tegaderm.

Oh well, at least the damn thing healed.