Yellow is current positioning, or in the case of your handlebars; where I assume your current positioning is.

Red is where I think things should be for a proper, semi-aggressive/Cat 6 set-up.

Essentially:

• Larger frame.
• Saddle moved forward.
• Longer top tube.
• Longer head tube.
• Higher stem.
• Longer stem.
• Flatter stem.
• Better forward hand position.

You don't look like a dumbass, you look like the vast majority of riders who set themselves in a comfortable position, get used to it and never re-evaluate once they get stronger and more flexible. Don't change anything based on what BFSSFGbros post, go to a shop or have someone check you out in person before making changes. Then make one change at a time, give yourself time to adapt and go from there.

It's taken me the better part of 6 months to get my fitment really nailed down and it's a continuing work in progress.

I never get "thanks" for recommending a fitment calculator, when it is the single most important tool when determining fitment.

72 for all sizes. Prolly how he gets away with a 60mm stem and no posts about the bike being darty and hard to ride.

Go get your bike fitted and see whats up. but before you do flip the stem and send pics to slamthatstem for laughs or whatever.

Mine is a year or two newer than his, and I'm fairly certain it is less relaxed than that.

Wrong. The most important (and accurate) tool is asking what size Kilo you should get on the internet based on your jeans inseam.

@SpoonRobot - thanks again man. that's mighty nice of you to outline all that for me, even after I was a jerk to you in the past.
@Jaytron - thanks for the fitment calc. there. happy?
@Mcrusspants - not 60mm, 75mm. ;) (stock was 80mm fyi). is darty bad? i can easily make quick last second adjustments on the fly (potholes, debris, etc)
@Bryan - pics?

Fitment Calc - I did try to use one of these awhile back when you guys first suggested it to me. I was put off by the amount of info required. I have no idea what the length of my last toenail clippings were, etc. haha, I'm sure it's a great tool and I do plan to use it but I have to wait until I have a team together to measure all that for me. Very involved.

There is no time or space, only... Kilo TT.

You need a team of one person equipped with a tape measure.

Scrod, not trying to be argumentitive but I think it might be helpful to have a helper...
Might be hard to keep your back straight against the wall while you also do the measuring? Not impossible, just easier with help. I'll recruit the wife.

Trunk
Sit on a stool with your back straight and your pelvis hard against the wall. Make sure your back is straight and your pelvis is against the wall. Place the level on top of your AC (Acromioclavicular) joint and against the wall. The AC is the bony bump on top of your shoulder. Measure from the bottom of the level to the top of the stool. Measure both sides of your body and average the measurements.
http://www.competitivecyclist.com/im...asure_ex_2.jpg

Dude, I'm saying you need one person in addition to yourself.

Ok, maybe it is more relaxed than I thought.

http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=264636

http://i.imgur.com/IQ9oe.gif
http://i.imgur.com/2r2s6.gif

http://i.imgur.com/msXOx.gif

@Scrod - haha whoops, didn't read closely enough.

@Jaytron - just another thought about no one ever thanking you for the fitment calc... it may be because when you offer it up it's by way of a huge gif with a scary-ass monkey and very large bold font lol, justsayin... :)

Holy hellfire! Lookout bro, you are about to be bombed with fitment calc, lol
:p
I'm sure your bike makes you happy but man if they thought my seat to bars drop was excessive...

I like that saddle though man, for reelz. Recently realized that I'm carrying 1 pound of extra weight in my saddle and 2 pounds in my wheels/tires. Might have to take a look at those Fizik joints.

Lemurs are hella cute doe

http://www.animalpictures7.com/i/lem...10-600x430.jpg

It's a lemur ;)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...mafoo_logo.jpg

I thought the bold font would help them see my important information I was providing them with.

Actually, saddle to bar drop is based mostly on flexibility, which is highly variable per person. We didn't mention anything about yours.

I stand corrected. Not today you guys didn't. But more than once in the recent past I recall being told that there was hella seatpost showing on my ride.

Apologies, Bryan, I guess you will be spared the heckling lol. That bike looks fast as **** compared to mine.

And yes this all makes sense because I am not a flexible man. I may look like Gumby, but I don't be bendin' like Gumby.

"Hella seatpost" means your seat is very high relative to the TT of the frame, not the drop between saddle and bars :)

Well ****, I'm wrong about things 90% of the time here...
Might be better if everyone put me on their ignore list and then just let me go to town with the posting.
:p

Yeah, I'm fairly flexible. And speedy when I choose to be. Hit 33.76 according to Strava yesterday.

jimmytango, your bike looks sweet. Why you never post pics like the rest of us?