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LessonLearned 07-31-12 09:42 AM

Yup. Here in illinois the min wage for a "tipped employee" is far less than the federal min wage. It's $4.65 an hour
Which is total BS because that assumes you will get tips. As the Bob Evans server just experienced, some people don't tip since they don't "have to".

misskaz 07-31-12 09:44 AM

Aw man, sorry about the sick kitties around here. My old girl is 14 and she's really starting to lose muscle mass and get even grumpier than usual. But she also still eats well and likes to play once in a while (we play tag, it's so fun) so I'm hoping she'll be around a lot longer.

Today I am sad about life stuff. :(

Jandro 07-31-12 09:59 AM


Originally Posted by LessonLearned (Post 14548557)

Long legs, short torso/arms?

Jaytron 07-31-12 10:05 AM

Or an improperly fitted bike. Hrm

Jandro 07-31-12 10:08 AM

Today I: woke up next to this cute little lady.

http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphoto...70926866_n.jpg


(I blame all the kitty talk)

ddeadserious 07-31-12 10:09 AM

http://vicorientation.ca/site/wp-con...ndHereWeGo.gif

McRussellPants 07-31-12 10:36 AM

http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphoto...62711027_n.jpg

Got these AC 420s in on Friday, really stoked, super smooth bearings and way stiffer than what was on the bike.
Drug it up to Dallas to do the open track at EDS and ended up not being able to get out there before I left. not so stoked about that.

Jandro 07-31-12 10:48 AM

Looks great! Labels match the frame decals (though I always prefer de-labeled wheels).

LessonLearned 07-31-12 10:53 AM

awww how cute. you fellas wanna play with me again. sorry chums, this monkey don't dance no more.
http://i602.photobucket.com/albums/t...e/WinkKiss.gif

Jandro 07-31-12 10:59 AM


Originally Posted by LessonLearned (Post 14549809)
awww how cute. you fellas wanna play with me again. sorry chums, this monkey don't dance no more.
http://i602.photobucket.com/albums/t...e/WinkKiss.gif

It was an honest question :/ I know plenty of people that are odd body geometry.

Spoonrobot 07-31-12 11:07 AM

Based on the pictures from the WDYLL thread he's got long legs, long arms and a bike that's too small.

LessonLearned 07-31-12 11:08 AM


Originally Posted by Spoonrobot (Post 14549872)
Based on the pictures from the WDYLL thread he's got long legs, long arms and a bike that's too small.

Mostly right.

http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/r...7/b13b0707.jpg

Jandro 07-31-12 11:10 AM

Impressive wingspan.

LessonLearned 07-31-12 11:15 AM

The bike doesn't feel too small to me. When you ride a 61cm/62cm/63cm bike it can be a bit cumbersome. Unwieldy even.
And since I'm not a strong muscular manly man, I don't mind "slightly smaller" (rather than risk going too big).
That way I end up with a bike that I can manage, rather than a bike I have to struggle with.

LessonLearned 07-31-12 11:17 AM


Originally Posted by Jandro (Post 14549886)
Impressive wingspan.

:lol:

Good one.

I wish there was a way to get video of me riding, so that you guys could point out exactly what indicators you see that show you my bike is too small for me. I know the seatpost is kind of high up, but I'd still have to have you watch me ride before I would buy into your diagnosis 100%. I know you guys know your stuff, but I'd still prefer someone be able to see me on the bike before I put too much stock in their analysis.

Is there anything I can watch for myself? Something that would be a surefire indicator that my bike is way too small for me? I don't have any soreness or discomfort or anything weird (afaik).

Jaytron 07-31-12 11:33 AM

Pain usually means something is off, but fitment is sometimes something you don't realize is off until you finally ride something that fits correctly.

Easiest way would be to try a handy dandy fit calculator and compare it to the dimensions of your bike.

Jandro 07-31-12 11:38 AM


Originally Posted by LessonLearned (Post 14549935)
:lol:

Good one.

I wish there was a way to get video of me riding, so that you guys could point out exactly what indicators you see that show you my bike is too small for me. I know the seatpost is kind of high up, but I'd still have to have you watch me ride before I would buy into your diagnosis 100%. I know you guys know your stuff, but I'd still prefer someone be able to see me on the bike before I put too much stock in their analysis.

Is there anything I can watch for myself? Something that would be a surefire indicator that my bike is way too small for me? I don't have any soreness or discomfort or anything weird (afaik).

I'm sure Jaytron will point you to a fit calculator he knows of but off the bat here are my observations and things you should watch for:

-You're stem and bars are pointing to the sky, which seems strange since you have long arms. I know Brooks saddles favor a more 'upright' position so maybe that's why?
-While not excessive, you have a decent amount of spacers under your stem (basically just same as the above).
-What angle is your back, typically when you ride?

Things to watch out for that tell you your fit is too small:
-Your arms should aways be bent while riding. Something like 150* is a good medium bend, 90* when full aero mode (like when you're riding into a headwind).
-When you do this, does your torso feel cramped? Knees hitting your arms/chest?
-You diaphragm should be open and breathing deep shouldn't be a problem. Are you able to keep your back straight while doing this or do you have to 'hunch'? If you have to hunch, your frame is too small.
-It's hard to tell but it looks like your saddle is as far back on the rails as it can go (could just be the way Brooks are though, I'm not super familiar with them).

Honestly trying to help here.

Spoonrobot 07-31-12 11:38 AM

It's not just too small, you've also got it set-up too small as well. The major thing is that your forward-most hand position is not over the front wheel contact point. Bigger bikes almost always need longer stems, even with bullhorns.

Short, high-rise stem.

If those bricks are close to a standard length your saddle is 10cm+ behind the BB. Which is a lot, even for your height.

You've got a very upright looking bike without upright-bike geometry, handlebars or stem length. Also, big bikes look weird anyway, which is what most people are actually commenting on, they just don't know it.

Post a pic of you actually on the bike. That's going to blow people's minds.

Rootzilla 07-31-12 11:42 AM

Those fitment calculators can be such a pain to find anyway.

Scrodzilla 07-31-12 11:49 AM

Someone should make a website where you can search for anything you can think of. Even if that sort of thing did exist, I wouldn't even know what to search for.

Spoonrobot 07-31-12 11:51 AM

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...s/cd9c8fe9.jpg

Jandro 07-31-12 11:53 AM


Originally Posted by Scrodzilla (Post 14550098)
Someone should make a website where you can search for anything you can think of. Even if that sort of thing did exist, I wouldn't even know what to search for.

Surely such a thing doesn't exist.















Since Jay is slackin'


Originally Posted by Jaytron (Post 14546495)


Scrodzilla 07-31-12 11:56 AM


Originally Posted by Spoonrobot (Post 14550106)

Wow! I never noticed that Lagers have such a slack head tube angle.

LessonLearned 07-31-12 12:01 PM

Anyone care to explain those red/yellow lines a bit more please?

Also, to be fair, even though I did eventually ask a fitment question... it was you all who began the bike's too small talk. I was just sharing the pic because I think it's neat and I took it today. (Today I)

LessonLearned 07-31-12 12:06 PM

Thanks Jandro and Spoonrobot and all for taking the time to reply with useful info. Much appreciated.

I'll try to get the wife to snap some pics while I ride around a bit. Maybe that will help shed some more light on this. I'm shocked that the bike is so obviously too small for me haha all this time I've been riding around feeling like a badass but unknowingly looking like a dumbass. :(


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