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Scrodzilla 03-15-13 01:32 PM


Originally Posted by prooftheory (Post 15390836)
I'm thinking that evil is just having trouble tightening the cranks on all the way and thinks that the splines bottomed out. Lots of people have this problem and then think that they need a spacer.

I think the same thing. Omniums are weird.

Scrodzilla 03-15-13 01:33 PM


Originally Posted by Point4ska (Post 15390795)
I incorrectly answered a question that wasn't addressed to me in the first place. My bad.

fixed.

Nagrom_ 03-15-13 01:59 PM

It's probably really difficult to properly torque a bottom bracket when you only weigh 85 pounds.

I would not be working on a bike of that caliber (or any bike for that matter) without a torque wrench. 40nm feels like a **** load of torque if you don't have confirmation.

striknein 03-15-13 02:03 PM

Nag, stop being so quotable.

Nagrom_ 03-15-13 02:31 PM

Lol it's an issue I have.
But really I wasn't entirely trying to be funny. I'm a big ass dude and it isn't the easiest task to drop that kind of torque. It would be a lot harder if I was tiny.

Bet money he was using a little hex wrench too. Ain't no way he's torquing enough with the deck stacked that much against him.

bro 03-17-13 10:16 AM

long shot, but ive got a reynolds 531 ronkit frame from the 70s with 120mm rear spacing, and im ordering a wheelset with a formula high flange rear hub spaced at 120 also. using a generic crankset like this one. http://www.ebay.com/itm/290799865183?ssPageName=STRK:MESINDXX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1436.l2649
i know the same exact one is under several different brand names, same with the formula hubs.

im not trying to play musical bb spindles too much, based off what little info i can give you, what do you think a good bb spindle length to start with would be? trying to just have my chainline real straight. gonna be using a 52t ring. should i just use the exact length spindle as the one it came with? it used to be a ten speed but a lot of the parts had been swapped out for ****tier ones or been mistreated over the years, so im just going to convert it. i know this is a really ******** question to ask but i figured maybe randomly from experiencing a similar situation you might know.

Scrodzilla 03-17-13 10:55 AM

Those SHUN cranksets use a 103mm JIS spindle for a 42mm(ish) chainline.

bro 03-17-13 12:07 PM

cool, im probably going to use a tange or shimano JIS taper cartridge/sealed BB. so how do i know the chainline will be straight if i grip on a 103? the 120 formula flip/flop hub fits right into my rear dropouts, so i dont have the ability to use spacers to get the chainline straight.. but thats probably good cause i dont want my wheel dished all weird. im pretty new to all this stuff, sorry if i ask ******** questions. are you saying that the formula track hubs are for 42mm chainlines? also idk if a 52 ring would bang the frame or not on a 103 spindle. im gonna go take a rough measurement of the bb spindle that came with it.

Scrodzilla 03-17-13 12:34 PM


Originally Posted by bro (Post 15397233)
so how do i know the chainline will be straight if i grip on a 103?

Because I just told you.


Originally Posted by bro (Post 15397233)
the 120 formula flip/flop hub fits right into my rear dropouts, so i dont have the ability to use spacers to get the chainline straight.. but thats probably good cause i dont want my wheel dished all weird.

You're drastically overthinking this and would never need to do such a thing if you use the correct BB.


Originally Posted by bro (Post 15397233)
are you saying that the formula track hubs are for 42mm chainlines?

Yes, as most track hubs are.


Originally Posted by bro (Post 15397233)
also idk if a 52 ring would bang the frame or not on a 103 spindle.

If it hits the frame and you use a longer spindle to overcome this, your chainline will be off and there's no way around it. Use the right BB and a smaller chainring.


Originally Posted by bro (Post 15397233)
im gonna go take a rough measurement of the bb spindle that came with it.

Again, you need to use the spindle length appropriate for whatever new crankset you're using. What's in there now doesn't matter at all.

Also - your run-on post made my head spin. Capital letters, line breaks and paragraphs exist for a reason.

Dixie Gentleman 03-17-13 05:12 PM

My lbs said they think that only a phil wood cog will would work on Phil hubs.. seems ********, no?

Scrodzilla 03-17-13 05:21 PM


Originally Posted by Dixie Gentleman (Post 15398042)
My lbs said they think that only a phil wood cog will would work on Phil hubs.. seems ********, no?

That's crap. You need to use an Italian-threaded lockring (Phil, Campy or Miche) but any English-threaded cog will work. The only thing I would advise against is using an EAI cog because they are really thick and your lockring may not have enough threads to engage properly. Some people have done it and the universe didn't implode but I wouldn't risk it on such a pricey hub.

Dixie Gentleman 03-17-13 05:50 PM

thats more along the lines of what he said now that i think about it, because i currently have EAI cog. Think i'll go with a phil cog and get it over with.

Scrodzilla 03-17-13 05:53 PM

If you want a 17t, I know a guy who is selling a very slightly used one for a great price. ;)

road2you 03-17-13 06:55 PM

whats your take on: H+Son's EERO? ...& have you heard of anyone using brakes on them???

Weight: 790 grams
Material: 6061 Alloy
Height: 43.33333 mm
Size: 700c
Drillings: 32 36 48
Colors: Subject to change due to NASDAQ fluctuations and the RMB's appreciation.
Joint: Welded
ERD: 555 mm

Eero is a response to the demand for a stronger rim. With a similar profile to Formation Face, Eero is wider, slightly higher and significantly heavier. The new design will accommodate wider tires and withstand much more abuse.

Scrodzilla 03-17-13 07:01 PM


Originally Posted by road2you (Post 15398438)
whats your take on: H+Son's EERO? ...& have you heard of anyone using brakes on them???

The EERO was designed for trick riding and are very heavy. Like Formation Face rims, you can't use a brake on them without damaging the sidewalls.

If you want deep H+Son rims but want to use brakes, get SL42s.

striknein 03-17-13 07:38 PM

Jesus christ those Archetypes to DA.

Scrodzilla 03-17-13 07:54 PM


Originally Posted by striknein (Post 15398615)
Jesus christ those Archetypes to DA.

Jesus Christ, indeed. Those are nice ****ing wheels.

Dixie Gentleman 03-17-13 08:10 PM


Originally Posted by Scrodzilla (Post 15398208)
If you want a 17t, I know a guy who is selling a very slightly used one for a great price. ;)

hmmm i wouldnt mind trying a 17t.

NateGarcia 03-17-13 08:17 PM

I recently purchased a fixed gear online, but with 22.2cm bmx bars that I want to exchange for drop bars. What size drop bars should I be looking for?

Point4ska 03-17-13 08:18 PM


Originally Posted by Scrodzilla (Post 15391010)
fixed.

Burn! That's what I get for posting in a Scrod thread. :thumb:

calv 03-17-13 08:41 PM

Are the Suzue hubs a significant upgrade from Novatec or would they be something you'd only buy if you were upgrading wheelsets already?

Scrodzilla 03-17-13 08:43 PM


Originally Posted by calv (Post 15398872)
Are the Suzue hubs a significant upgrade from Novatec or would they be something you'd only buy if you were upgrading wheelsets already?

They definitely look prettier. The overall quality and materials used are most likely a little nicer but I wouldn't go through the trouble of rebuilding your current wheelset just to switch hubs.

calv 03-17-13 09:06 PM

Nice. I wanted to do the reverse of my current wheelset: silver hubs and nipples with black spokes and rims whenever I end up building up my next bike.

Timjohnson 03-17-13 09:28 PM

Scrod,

how do I find your ebay page?

Scrodzilla 03-17-13 10:01 PM


Originally Posted by Timjohnson (Post 15399072)
Scrod,

how do I find your ebay page?

Retrogression on eBay


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