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Old 01-15-12 | 03:27 PM
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It's not worth it unless the builder has a good reputation. A while back I had a wheel built at a shop and it never stayed true for very long. Eventually I found out who are the best guys in the city. But building my own is fun and I would rather do it myself if nothing is stopping me
Care to drop some names? Just for future reference? Or if you wouldn't mind showing a newbie the ropes some time (I would reimburse you). Bike Kitchen is way too busy/hectic and my guy at the LBS said he is a terrible teacher.
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I'm not sure if this was asked before I didn't read the whole thread. I was wondering if you still work at a bike shop or do you just do RG?
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Old 01-15-12 | 07:23 PM
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Old 01-15-12 | 08:12 PM
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Care to drop some names? Just for future reference? Or if you wouldn't mind showing a newbie the ropes some time (I would reimburse you). Bike Kitchen is way too busy/hectic and my guy at the LBS said he is a terrible teacher.
On the east side I believe there's a guy, Tony Z, or something like that. In Santa Monica there's Jorge at the Performance bike shop, he's one of those "will forget more about cycling than you will ever learn" kinda guys. We have books at Bikerowave and several people who are pretty good at it. I have only built 5 wheels, so I can sorta help
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Hey Scrod!

I just received a chainwhip as a birthday present and it's a 3/32 park tool. Currently, my entire drive train is 3/32 but I know eventually I'll make the jump to 1/8. Do you think I'd be able to just replace the sections of chain with 1/8 and keep using it?
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Old 01-16-12 | 06:57 AM
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A lady I know pretty well is looking at buying a SS Fuji Betsy. She's 5'1 so I suggested the 43cm frame (no idea about her actual inseam, but I'm going to guarantee she's shorter than a 28). You think I was on the money? Now I'm having second doubts - but can always help her swap her stem to something shorter/longer if she needs it I guess.
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Old 01-16-12 | 07:05 AM
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Originally Posted by EpicSchwinn
Hey Scrod!

I just received a chainwhip as a birthday present and it's a 3/32 park tool. Currently, my entire drive train is 3/32 but I know eventually I'll make the jump to 1/8. Do you think I'd be able to just replace the sections of chain with 1/8 and keep using it?
Yeah...I did it pretty easily to the 3/32 Park chainwhip at the shop I where used to work. Just remove the old sections of chain and replace them with 1/8" chain using KMC master links attaching them to the handle.
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Old 01-16-12 | 07:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Santaria
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A lady I know pretty well is looking at buying a SS Fuji Betsy. She's 5'1 so I suggested the 43cm frame (no idea about her actual inseam, but I'm going to guarantee she's shorter than a 28). You think I was on the money? Now I'm having second doubts - but can always help her swap her stem to something shorter/longer if she needs it I guess.
It's hard to say without knowing her actual measurements. Angie is 5'3" and rides a 51cm Leader 722 - but she's built like a spider monkey.
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Old 01-16-12 | 05:28 PM
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Hey Scrod did you get a chance today to calculate those spokes for me?
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Old 01-16-12 | 06:11 PM
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The Circus Monkey road hub is a pretty standard design being sold by a lot of different manufacturers. The measurements are exactly the same as the Novatec A291SB. Based on those numbers (as well as the diagram you provided via PM), this is what I got:



Naturally, you'll want to round down.

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Old 01-16-12 | 06:19 PM
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Scrod, I remember you saying not to grease the spindle of square taper BB's, but what about ISIS BB's?
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Old 01-16-12 | 06:29 PM
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ISIS and other splined spindles should be greased or you'll hear a lot of creaks.

Also, splined spindles will bottom out instead of the crank arm sliding on too far in the instance of over-tightening.

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Originally Posted by Scrodzilla
ISIS and other splined spindles should be greased or you'll hear a lot of creaks.
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So THAT'S why my mountain bike drivetrain always creaked.
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Old 01-16-12 | 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by hairnet
On the east side I believe there's a guy, Tony Z, or something like that. In Santa Monica there's Jorge at the Performance bike shop, he's one of those "will forget more about cycling than you will ever learn" kinda guys. We have books at Bikerowave and several people who are pretty good at it. I have only built 5 wheels, so I can sorta help
Thanks man. Do people build wheels at wave? I figured it's kind of a long process and I can't see that happening in one shot at Kitchen.
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Old 01-16-12 | 08:49 PM
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Hey Scrod, since Sun has stopped making CR18's and ME14's in black whats a similar box section rim at that price range?
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Originally Posted by Scrodzilla
ISIS and other splined spindles should be greased or you'll hear a lot of creaks.

Also, splined spindles will bottom out instead of the crank arm sliding on too far in the instance of over-tightening.
Why shouldn't one grease square taper BB's?
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Old 01-16-12 | 08:57 PM
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Hey Scrod, since Sun has stopped making CR18's and ME14's in black whats a similar box section rim at that price range?
Velocity Razor?

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Old 01-16-12 | 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Nagrom_
Why shouldn't one grease square taper BB's?
Because - as I touched upon in the post you quoted - a greased square taper can force the crank arm too far onto the spindle, causing deformation of the BB/crank arm interface.
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Old 01-16-12 | 09:00 PM
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Because - as I touched upon in the post you quoted - a greased square taper can force the crank arm too far onto the spindle, causing deformation of the BB/crank arm interface.
huh... good to know, thanks. Guess i should degrease mine?
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Old 01-16-12 | 09:02 PM
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There's always been a lot of debate about whether you should/shouldn't use grease. I'm in favor of not using it.
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Old 01-16-12 | 09:05 PM
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I just used some to install one. Hope I didn't deform anything.

also I noticed there's an instructional video on youtube that says to also grease the spindle. I thought that was a no-no for square tapers (as opposed to being a debate) since it can make the arm come loose?
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Old 01-16-12 | 09:08 PM
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There are "instructional" videos on Youtube showing how to do all kinds of stupid ****.
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Old 01-16-12 | 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Scrodzilla
There's always been a lot of debate about whether you should/shouldn't use grease.
+1

Both sides seem to make some good points but neither has convinced me totally over the other. I just wipe a little anti seize now
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