Nutrition
#202
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Almond butter
Almond milk
plain almonds
they are just plain good.
Good fats are not bad for you but they've been given a bad rap because they have a lot of calories. But they also are non-inflammatory, have vitamins, help your liver shed fat, do NOT raise triglycerides, and are absolutely vital to your health.
Good oils
Fish or krill oil
Lard
Butter
Coconut oil
Olive oil
walnut oil
bad oils
soybean oil
corn oil
safflower
canola
crisco
margarine
anything partially hydrogenated will be high in trans fats, which are inflammatory to your blood vessels.
vegetable oils are very high in omega-6 unsaturated fat, which is inflammatory. American diet has a ratio of 50 to 1 omega-6 to omega-3 when it should be 1 to 1, maybe 3 to 1.
If you look at a lot of cookies, cracker and snack packages, the main ingredients are: vegetable oil, HFCS, highly refined wheat or corn flour. Complete garbage that unfortunately is very tasty and apparently addictive for some people.
https://naturalbias.com/12-reasons-wh...-good-for-you/
https://www.menshealth.com/health/saturated-fat
https://www.marksdailyapple.com/saturated-fat-healthy/
Almond milk
plain almonds
they are just plain good.
Good fats are not bad for you but they've been given a bad rap because they have a lot of calories. But they also are non-inflammatory, have vitamins, help your liver shed fat, do NOT raise triglycerides, and are absolutely vital to your health.
Good oils
Fish or krill oil
Lard
Butter
Coconut oil
Olive oil
walnut oil
bad oils
soybean oil
corn oil
safflower
canola
crisco
margarine
anything partially hydrogenated will be high in trans fats, which are inflammatory to your blood vessels.
vegetable oils are very high in omega-6 unsaturated fat, which is inflammatory. American diet has a ratio of 50 to 1 omega-6 to omega-3 when it should be 1 to 1, maybe 3 to 1.
If you look at a lot of cookies, cracker and snack packages, the main ingredients are: vegetable oil, HFCS, highly refined wheat or corn flour. Complete garbage that unfortunately is very tasty and apparently addictive for some people.
https://naturalbias.com/12-reasons-wh...-good-for-you/
https://www.menshealth.com/health/saturated-fat
https://www.marksdailyapple.com/saturated-fat-healthy/
#203
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bad oils
canola
crisco
margarine
anything partially hydrogenated will be high in trans fats, which are inflammatory to your blood vessels.
vegetable oils are very high in omega-6 unsaturated fat, which is inflammatory. American diet has a ratio of 50 to 1 omega-6 to omega-3 when it should be 1 to 1, maybe 3 to 1.
The omega-6 vs. omega-3 issue is a huge problem. For instance, most people have heard that eating fish is a good source of omega-3s. This is true, but only in the case of wild caught fish. Farm raised fish, of any type (tilapia, catfish, salmon, trout), has been regularly shown to be very high in omega-6s. My belief is that this is because farm raised fish are fed a diet of mostly corn. The same omega-6 imbalance is seen in corn-fed livestock, whereas grass fed beef has been shown to be very high in omega 3s.
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we bought some "Naturally More" peanut butter that has added omegas (flax), protein (egg whites) and fiber (wheat germ) added
It's not bad, but it ain't no Adam's.
It's not bad, but it ain't no Adam's.
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#205
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From: Rocket City, No'ala
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Peanut oil has a lot of omega-6 unsaturated fat in it but it has a high smoke point, making it good for frying.
Here's a list of oils and their omega-6 (n-6) and omega-3 (n-3) contents. Too bad they don't also list the amount of saturated or polyunsaturated.
Canola has to be highly refined in order to make it useful and it is also high in omega-6 fats. https://www.healthy-eating-politics.c...table-oil.html https://www.diabetesincontrol.com/com.../2570&Itemid=8
Peanut Oil
29g LA (n-6)
1.1g ALA (n-3)
Canola Oil
22g LA (n-6)
11g ALA (n-3)
Soybean Oil
53g LA (n-6)
7g ALA (n-3)
Lard
10g LA (n-6)
1.4g ALA (n-3)
Olive Oil
9g LA (n-6)
0.7g ALA (n-3)
Coconut Oil
3g LA (n-6)
0g ALA (n-3)
https://weightoftheevidence.blogspot....d-sources.html
Here's a list of oils and their omega-6 (n-6) and omega-3 (n-3) contents. Too bad they don't also list the amount of saturated or polyunsaturated.
Canola has to be highly refined in order to make it useful and it is also high in omega-6 fats. https://www.healthy-eating-politics.c...table-oil.html https://www.diabetesincontrol.com/com.../2570&Itemid=8
Peanut Oil
29g LA (n-6)
1.1g ALA (n-3)
Canola Oil
22g LA (n-6)
11g ALA (n-3)
Soybean Oil
53g LA (n-6)
7g ALA (n-3)
Lard
10g LA (n-6)
1.4g ALA (n-3)
Olive Oil
9g LA (n-6)
0.7g ALA (n-3)
Coconut Oil
3g LA (n-6)
0g ALA (n-3)
https://weightoftheevidence.blogspot....d-sources.html
#208
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And, it turns out that cholesterol by itself is not an indicator of heart disease. Since the rest of my blood work was good and my BP is excellent, I'm not going to worry about the cholesterol.
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This is a good thread so I'm going to bump it with some questions.
To those who train during the evening/at night: How do you plan your meals? I usually have dinner between 5-6pm and don't eat after that, but with a work schedule change I can only ride between 6:30pm and 8:30pm so I'm struggling with how to plan my meals. Dinner at the regular time and then just a protein drink after my ride? I still need to go to sleep around 11 and wake up at 7 so I'm not sure how to create a better structure.
And, is anyone else fighting off winter cravings? I've never been as hungry as during the past week since it's dropped to the high 50s/low 60s during the mornings. I know that's not cold for most, but it's more indicative of the seasons changing and the circadian effects of that. I just end up bouncing around the kitchen eating every piece of meat, all the nuts and loads of ice cream. Generally having a hard time getting to that full feeling. More fat with my meals?
Finally, I watched this series and found it extremely interesting.
To those who train during the evening/at night: How do you plan your meals? I usually have dinner between 5-6pm and don't eat after that, but with a work schedule change I can only ride between 6:30pm and 8:30pm so I'm struggling with how to plan my meals. Dinner at the regular time and then just a protein drink after my ride? I still need to go to sleep around 11 and wake up at 7 so I'm not sure how to create a better structure.
And, is anyone else fighting off winter cravings? I've never been as hungry as during the past week since it's dropped to the high 50s/low 60s during the mornings. I know that's not cold for most, but it's more indicative of the seasons changing and the circadian effects of that. I just end up bouncing around the kitchen eating every piece of meat, all the nuts and loads of ice cream. Generally having a hard time getting to that full feeling. More fat with my meals?
Finally, I watched this series and found it extremely interesting.
#212
This is a good thread so I'm going to bump it with some questions.
To those who train during the evening/at night: How do you plan your meals? I usually have dinner between 5-6pm and don't eat after that, but with a work schedule change I can only ride between 6:30pm and 8:30pm so I'm struggling with how to plan my meals. Dinner at the regular time and then just a protein drink after my ride?
And, is anyone else fighting off winter cravings? I've never been as hungry as during the past week since it's dropped to the high 50s/low 60s during the mornings. I know that's not cold for most, but it's more indicative of the seasons changing and the circadian effects of that. I just end up bouncing around the kitchen eating every piece of meat, all the nuts and loads of ice cream. Generally having a hard time getting to that full feeling. More fat with my meals?
Finally, I watched this series and found it extremely interesting.
To those who train during the evening/at night: How do you plan your meals? I usually have dinner between 5-6pm and don't eat after that, but with a work schedule change I can only ride between 6:30pm and 8:30pm so I'm struggling with how to plan my meals. Dinner at the regular time and then just a protein drink after my ride?
And, is anyone else fighting off winter cravings? I've never been as hungry as during the past week since it's dropped to the high 50s/low 60s during the mornings. I know that's not cold for most, but it's more indicative of the seasons changing and the circadian effects of that. I just end up bouncing around the kitchen eating every piece of meat, all the nuts and loads of ice cream. Generally having a hard time getting to that full feeling. More fat with my meals?
Finally, I watched this series and found it extremely interesting.
Yeah, drinking a protein shake immediately after is what I do.
I read Gary Taubes' book, "Good Calories Bad Calories". It was very enlightening. I highly recommend it. I may have mentioned that earlier in this thread. Can't recall.
#213
definitely stop the eating after 6 pm if you sleep at 11
+1 on the protein after, try to minimize carbs after dinner
you want your body to burn off the fat reserves while you sleep and not carbs. thats a main factor in weight gain (or just lack of fat loss)
when i was looking up S.A.D. somewhere, i read that the loss of vitamin d from the sun in the winter leads to common sugary cravings during the winter to balance something out in the hormones
i find that if i eat a more solid breakfast it keeps me more balanced for the rest of the day during winter cloudy months as far as how much i want to eat
+1 on the protein after, try to minimize carbs after dinner
you want your body to burn off the fat reserves while you sleep and not carbs. thats a main factor in weight gain (or just lack of fat loss)
when i was looking up S.A.D. somewhere, i read that the loss of vitamin d from the sun in the winter leads to common sugary cravings during the winter to balance something out in the hormones
i find that if i eat a more solid breakfast it keeps me more balanced for the rest of the day during winter cloudy months as far as how much i want to eat
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Good stuff so far. I think the sunlight thing might be a issue. I went from 4-5 hours of outside time a day to less than one.
As much as I ride, I don't mess around with protein. This stuff is very good.
https://www.bodybuilding.com/store/mu...rm/combat.html
I've tried some casein powders and they're even better but I couldn't afford them this month so I got the next best thing. I've been doing one scoop with milk and yogurt after a ride and another one after dinner but I think I'll change it up and do one in the morning and one after my ride.
Egg whites?

I eat anywhere from 3-6 whole eggs a day. Trying to get all my protein from food never really worked for me. Supplementing with powders appears to be the way to go for my physiology.
#220
As for the eggs, try to substitute some of those whole eggs for egg whites.. So instead of say, 5 whole eggs, I'd eat about 2 whole eggs and substitute the rest with egg whites of something.
#221
lose a lot of good stuff with them yolks too unfortunately
from what ive heard casein isnt worth it, whey is the best bang for your buck, supplemented with egg protein its even better
beans are also the ****, they have a good amount of protein generally and a lot less cholesterol than eggs
fwiw: ive never been "diagnosed" but im quite sure im a sufferer of S.A.D. and im already feeling some of it this year after just a week of crappy weather.
so today i bought a box of italian butter cookies and then i ate them all.
also protein powder/supplements in general are absorbed much more efficiently into your system with real food also
from what ive heard casein isnt worth it, whey is the best bang for your buck, supplemented with egg protein its even better
beans are also the ****, they have a good amount of protein generally and a lot less cholesterol than eggs
fwiw: ive never been "diagnosed" but im quite sure im a sufferer of S.A.D. and im already feeling some of it this year after just a week of crappy weather.
so today i bought a box of italian butter cookies and then i ate them all.
also protein powder/supplements in general are absorbed much more efficiently into your system with real food also
#222
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That's a good point. I don't sub-powders for meals. I just add it to what I think is a pretty rounded diet. When I first started riding seriously I was eating a ton of clean food and was still super sore and fatigued but supplementing with protein powder reduced that greatly and I think I've made some very good performance gains while still changing my body composition to a more favorable one.
I like casein, mainly because it makes me feel satisfied for several hours after I take it. One scoop and it feels like I never have to eat again. Good for when I would eat out of boredom at work or something. The premium for it is pretty steep though.
+1 on this. I don't generally eat sweets but I pounded down a quart of ice cream like my life depended on it earlier tonight.
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I like casein, mainly because it makes me feel satisfied for several hours after I take it. One scoop and it feels like I never have to eat again. Good for when I would eat out of boredom at work or something. The premium for it is pretty steep though.
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#223
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This is why Carleton remains one of my favorite members of BF. Cheers, dude.
I'm compelled to start being healthier, because..well, I'm going to have to eventually!
Okay, so let me speak from someone in my shoes, or in a similar case;
24. Just started living alone. Work at a camera shop directly next to a whole foods. Have an enormous sweet tooth. Hardly ever go food shopping. Eat pb&j and arepas(Colombian corn cakes)&cheese almost daily. Very imbalanced when it comes to budgeting/flat broke. Very active biking & skateboarding. Eat out 5 days a week. Starting to notice body changes. Want to slim/tone up before it gets harder!
Where/how do I start?
I'm compelled to start being healthier, because..well, I'm going to have to eventually!
Okay, so let me speak from someone in my shoes, or in a similar case;
24. Just started living alone. Work at a camera shop directly next to a whole foods. Have an enormous sweet tooth. Hardly ever go food shopping. Eat pb&j and arepas(Colombian corn cakes)&cheese almost daily. Very imbalanced when it comes to budgeting/flat broke. Very active biking & skateboarding. Eat out 5 days a week. Starting to notice body changes. Want to slim/tone up before it gets harder!
Where/how do I start?
Last edited by BryantTheTyrant; 10-11-12 at 05:03 PM.
#224
You answered yourself in your own question. Chill on the sweet tooth and buy healthier groceries.
I've learned that you can't eat what's not in your house, so I stopped bringing junk into my house.
I've learned that you can't eat what's not in your house, so I stopped bringing junk into my house.
#225
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If you're flat broke but eating out everyday, you're doing it wrong.
I've no idea what will work for you but here's what worked for me: Limit carbs to; during rides, after rides and in preparation for any racing you may do. Cut out sugars, boost vegetables and meat consumption.
I used to make ice cream and desserts for a living so I know all about a wicked sweet tooth. It gets easier to adapt the longer you abstain or reduce your intake. I still have the occasion bowl of ice cream/cereal but it's not a routine thing anymore.
Also understand that being healthier isn't a one-shot deal; it's a lifestyle change with minor deviations, and real change is slow and difficult.
I've no idea what will work for you but here's what worked for me: Limit carbs to; during rides, after rides and in preparation for any racing you may do. Cut out sugars, boost vegetables and meat consumption.
I used to make ice cream and desserts for a living so I know all about a wicked sweet tooth. It gets easier to adapt the longer you abstain or reduce your intake. I still have the occasion bowl of ice cream/cereal but it's not a routine thing anymore.
Also understand that being healthier isn't a one-shot deal; it's a lifestyle change with minor deviations, and real change is slow and difficult.






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