Frame pump or Topeak Road Morph?
#51
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From: NE Indiana
Bikes: 2020 Masi Giramondo 700c; 2013 Lynskey Peloton; 1992 Giant Rincon; 1989 Dawes needs parts; 1985 Trek 660; 1985 Fuji Club; 1984 Schwinn Voyager; 1984 Miyata 612; 1977 Raleigh Competition GS
I've never had a problem with my good old aluminum Zefal HP (the 70s version) direct-to-valvestem frame pump. I've had one on my Fuji since '76! Yes, it does take a bit of effort to get to 105psi, but I'm still riding on 27x1-1/8 (that's 28mm) tires. BUT from home I either use an air compressor or a floor pump. I only use the frame pump if I have a flat on the road. The trick I've learned over the years is to use my off hand to hold the head of the pump AND I wrap a couple of fingers around the spoke(s) near the valve stem. I've NEVER torn a stem that way...
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Yes, that works but you are still expending a fair amount of effort in stabilizing the pump head and/or grinding the pump into your hand. I know all the tricks and can get the pressure of a tire up to over 100 psi with a Zefal frame pump. But after using the Topeak Morphs, I just don't see the point of all those tricks. I just put the Morph on the ground, attach the hose to the tire, and put all my effort into pumping rather than half into holding the pump and half into getting air into the tire.
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Dreamin' of Bemidji Down the Mississippi (in part)
Plan Epsilon Around Lake Michigan in the era of Covid
Gold Fever Three days of dirt in Colorado
Pokin' around the Poconos A cold ride around Lake Erie
Dinosaurs in Colorado A mountain bike guide to the Purgatory Canyon dinosaur trackway
Solo Without Pie. The search for pie in the Midwest.
Picking the Scablands. Washington and Oregon, 2005. Pie and spiders on the Columbia River!
#53
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From: Chapin, SC
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Yes, that works but you are still expending a fair amount of effort in stabilizing the pump head and/or grinding the pump into your hand. I know all the tricks and can get the pressure of a tire up to over 100 psi with a Zefal frame pump. But after using the Topeak Morphs, I just don't see the point of all those tricks. I just put the Morph on the ground, attach the hose to the tire, and put all my effort into pumping rather than half into holding the pump and half into getting air into the tire.
IMO: for touring bicycles & kit its "function first" and then in last place comes "form".
#54
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Purchased a Topeak Road Morph G at Performance Cycle on sale for $30. It works as advertised. Pumped up a tire to 90psi with not a lot of effort. I will probably just throw mine in a pannier rather than mounting it on the bike. I carry a pannier all the time anyway.
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Yes, that works but you are still expending a fair amount of effort in stabilizing the pump head and/or grinding the pump into your hand. I know all the tricks and can get the pressure of a tire up to over 100 psi with a Zefal frame pump. But after using the Topeak Morphs, I just don't see the point of all those tricks. I just put the Morph on the ground, attach the hose to the tire, and put all my effort into pumping rather than half into holding the pump and half into getting air into the tire.
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We use a Topeak on our tandem and mount it on our boob tube (look between our feet).
Almost a pleasure to have a flat and use this pump. 120 easy strokes = 120 lbs
Almost a pleasure to have a flat and use this pump. 120 easy strokes = 120 lbs
#57
I got rid of the Primus frame pump that came with my bike when it was new because I hated loosing air when disconnecting the hose on Schrader valves. The quick connect head of the Zefal made things much simpler. Now my bikes have Presta valves, but I still don't see the need to screw a hose on when the cam lock fitting is simpler. Toe-MAY-toe, toe-MAH-toe. YMMV, results not typical, and other such caveats...
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I got rid of the Primus frame pump that came with my bike when it was new because I hated loosing air when disconnecting the hose on Schrader valves. The quick connect head of the Zefal made things much simpler. Now my bikes have Presta valves, but I still don't see the need to screw a hose on when the cam lock fitting is simpler. Toe-MAY-toe, toe-MAH-toe. YMMV, results not typical, and other such caveats...
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Dreamin' of Bemidji Down the Mississippi (in part)
Plan Epsilon Around Lake Michigan in the era of Covid
Gold Fever Three days of dirt in Colorado
Pokin' around the Poconos A cold ride around Lake Erie
Dinosaurs in Colorado A mountain bike guide to the Purgatory Canyon dinosaur trackway
Solo Without Pie. The search for pie in the Midwest.
Picking the Scablands. Washington and Oregon, 2005. Pie and spiders on the Columbia River!
Stuart Black
Dreamin' of Bemidji Down the Mississippi (in part)
Plan Epsilon Around Lake Michigan in the era of Covid
Gold Fever Three days of dirt in Colorado
Pokin' around the Poconos A cold ride around Lake Erie
Dinosaurs in Colorado A mountain bike guide to the Purgatory Canyon dinosaur trackway
Solo Without Pie. The search for pie in the Midwest.
Picking the Scablands. Washington and Oregon, 2005. Pie and spiders on the Columbia River!
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From: NE Indiana
Bikes: 2020 Masi Giramondo 700c; 2013 Lynskey Peloton; 1992 Giant Rincon; 1989 Dawes needs parts; 1985 Trek 660; 1985 Fuji Club; 1984 Schwinn Voyager; 1984 Miyata 612; 1977 Raleigh Competition GS
I got rid of the Primus frame pump that came with my bike when it was new because I hated loosing air when disconnecting the hose on Schrader valves. The quick connect head of the Zefal made things much simpler. Now my bikes have Presta valves, but I still don't see the need to screw a hose on when the cam lock fitting is simpler. Toe-MAY-toe, toe-MAH-toe. YMMV, results not typical, and other such caveats...
So you threw away a pump for no reason...sorry.





