For the love of English 3 speeds...
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I love the idea of an S5 hub on a big roadster. That 50% over normal high gear gives you tons of room to gear the hub down while still having a nice cruising ratio available. I'd go 22 or maybe even 24Tcog. A medium ratio spread, a cruising gear and a granny would be perfect to deal with the extra weight and wider tires of the big roadster. The S5 already has the longer axle so it would fit the frame, but I suspect I'd have to use the seat stay bolts to mount the fender stays. I don't think there would be enough room for the wire stays and the bell crank on the axle. So far, the S5 hubs I've seen for sale are super expensive. I'll keep looking.
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I love the idea of an S5 hub on a big roadster. That 50% over normal high gear gives you tons of room to gear the hub down while still having a nice cruising ratio available. I'd go 22 or maybe even 24Tcog. A medium ratio spread, a cruising gear and a granny would be perfect to deal with the extra weight and wider tires of the big roadster. The S5 already has the longer axle so it would fit the frame, but I suspect I'd have to use the seat stay bolts to mount the fender stays. I don't think there would be enough room for the wire stays and the bell crank on the axle. So far, the S5 hubs I've seen for sale are super expensive. I'll keep looking.
Did you see the S5 hub I posted that was for sale cheap at the cabe? I just checked that link and it looks like it's still available - NOS $30 with all the fittings, cables, shifters, cog, clips etc.
https://thecabe.com/forum/threads/re...onents.130898/
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This is the only picture of 6 vintage bikes f/s. Does anyone have a year or model estimate for this. I may pursue this is Raleigh & if price is right. It has a springer fork which seems interesting. The crank looks to be very interesting as well. Any help with I.D.-ing this would be greatly appriciated.
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This is the only picture of 6 vintage bikes f/s. Does anyone have a year or model estimate for this. I may pursue this is Raleigh & if price is right. It has a springer fork which seems interesting. The crank looks to be very interesting as well. Any help with I.D.-ing this would be greatly appriciated.
https://minneapolis.craigslist.org/w...591380976.html
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I really like the Raleigh. I was looking for an early 50s tall Sports that was either over painted or with a finish that was too far gone to preserve. The idea was to do a lot of careful prep work and build a like new restoration. This looks like a good platform for that sort of build. Tall frame, pre 1955. Of course, the project would cost at least 3 times the value of the finished bike, but...who cares? I ended up buying a Rudge that that is mostly a preservation project, but with a very challenging front fender restoration.
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I am going to look at this '69 Armstrong on Thursday; unless there is a deal killing defect, I'll buy it.
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These two old timers had been forgotten in a shed near Gatwick Airport London since 1945. A 1933 and 1939 Sports light roadsters. Took me ages to figure out how best to forge the 3 way swage on the Resilion splitter without using lead solder. The Resilion cantilevers are from where all high quality light-weight brakes come from - especially so cantilever brakes. IMHO they are still the best braking system for a bicycle ever invented. Because they slide up and down the frame they can take any wheel size you choose to fit.
The patent is nearly 100 years old you gotta love em.
1933 Raleigh Sports Special BEFORE
1933 Raleigh Sports AFTER
1937 Raleigh Light Roadster BEFORE
1937 Raleigh Light Roadster AFTER
BEFORE
AFTER
1933 BEFORE
1933 AFTER
1920s RESILION BRAKE LEVER
REAR BRAKE CABLE SPLITTER
597MM DUNLOP SPRINTS WITH "PIANO WIRE" SPOKES SOLDERED AT SPOKE CROSS-OVER
1930 MINATURIZED POSTERS PROMOTING STRUMEY ARCHER, DUNLOP, BLUMETAL, RESILION, RALEIGH, LUCAS, BROOKS,
The patent is nearly 100 years old you gotta love em.
1933 Raleigh Sports Special BEFORE
1933 Raleigh Sports AFTER
1937 Raleigh Light Roadster BEFORE
1937 Raleigh Light Roadster AFTER
BEFORE
AFTER
1933 BEFORE
1933 AFTER
1920s RESILION BRAKE LEVER
REAR BRAKE CABLE SPLITTER
597MM DUNLOP SPRINTS WITH "PIANO WIRE" SPOKES SOLDERED AT SPOKE CROSS-OVER
1930 MINATURIZED POSTERS PROMOTING STRUMEY ARCHER, DUNLOP, BLUMETAL, RESILION, RALEIGH, LUCAS, BROOKS,
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I misplaced this badge whilst rebuilding. Miracuosly I found it 3 months later during Spring Cleaning. Coldn't believe my eyes, I nearly burst into tears when I saw it in the dustpan about to go in the trash can.
Drum brakes are bloody heavy, lousy at stopping but look super cool so who cares. (where I live the nearest hill is 200 miles away!
The rack is made up from the vertical struts of a baby cot.
The older SA selector is far superior to any other of SA's selectors IMHO
Goat skin leather and steel.
The bell is Japanese - I couldn't resist the fact it is made of solid copper rather than copper plated.
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You went above and beyond. That is beautiful. I, on the other hand go more for functional. I plan to buy a 1969 Armstrong on Thursday and it will never reach that level of restoration, but it will be saved.
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If I get a modern SA 5 speed hub, is there anyway to use it with a trigger shifter that looks like the original 3 speed trigger shifter? I can't find any 5 speed trigger shifters but my search skills may not be very good.
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SA makes a bar-end 5-speed shifter for those hubs, which can also be mounted to the downtube. There never was a quadrant-style shifter for 5-speed hubs. Or, I suppose, you could mount that shifter to a brake lever with one of those retroshift mechs.
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With the English roadsters, "knee knocking" with the handlebar ends is not at all uncommon on roadsters that use the old-style "narrow" pattern handlebars. The narrow bars were very common from the early days of rod brake roadsters of various brands through the 1960s (Raleigh kept putting them on 'export' spec roadsters even later - into the 1980s). The most common rod brake bike in the US - the US spec DL-1 from the 1970s era, uses a wider type of handlebar which is much less of a problem when turning. But the narrow bars were common for a long time and bikes with them still turn up. My 1978 DL-1 has standard wide bars, whereas my 1962 export DL-1 has narrow bars. My 1935 Hercules had narrow bars as well. My 1963 Danish market Raleigh Dawn Tourist had wide bars.
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Made a tough decision today. That is to take two of my 3 speed bikes to the Canadian Vintage Bicycle Show in Brantford Ontario on June 24th and find new homes for them. Three other assorted bikes, a Holdsworth, an upgraded CCM mixte and a modified drop bar Raleigh Canada MTB will be offered up as well. The Supercycle will be sold as seen but with the original drop bars and levers included.
Hope you drop in and say hello if you see me there.
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Wow, both of them are in great condition, they should be easy sales! It can be hard to let the good ones go
Are you making room for a new project?
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The Resilion cantilevers are from where all high quality light-weight brakes come from - especially so cantilever brakes. IMHO they are still the best braking system for a bicycle ever invented. Because they slide up and down the frame they can take any wheel size you choose to fit.
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Did other RHs have a similar decal or just "Sports" like the Raleigh?
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Look on the right side of the handlebar. That's a Sturmey Archer thumb shifter, and it is the closest you can get to the traditional trigger. You are referring to the SRF5, right? Because the latest ones have a rotary shift mechanism that (I think) doesn't use the same shifter-pull.
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'69 Armstrong
I picked this up this morning. I removed a ton of dust and dirt, pumped up the tires, evicted a couple of resident spiders, and gave it a quick bath. The hub shifts perfectly and will get a drink of oil later. Once I have the shiny parts de-rusted, I'll give it a leather saddle or move it on - I haven't decided yet.
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That looks like a good Raleigh dweenk . .
I found other badged names that are Raleigh I was unaware of.
https://minneapolis.craigslist.org/d...593321520.html
also for $25
https://minneapolis.craigslist.org/h...613674080.html
I found other badged names that are Raleigh I was unaware of.
https://minneapolis.craigslist.org/d...593321520.html
also for $25
https://minneapolis.craigslist.org/h...613674080.html
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