My second Grand Touring
03-26-15 | 01:36 AM
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verktyg
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There are exceptions....
Oral Contracts: Do They Carry Any Weight? The answer is yes—as long as you can prove it in court.
A handshake deal is always more binding when there are witnesses to the agreement. If you do go ahead and shake on an oral contract with no one to witness it, you should carry out your half of the bargain ASAP. Because putting your words into immediate action is another way to validate your oral agreement.
If you begin acting on your agreement with the other party acting in compliance, you create additional evidence that a deal was struck. Of course, the only problem with this strategy is that it requires the other party to immediately begin work on their half of the agreement.
Moral? Ethical? Legal?
verktyg
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03-26-15 | 02:04 AM
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05-11-15 | 02:03 AM
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verktyg
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Originally Posted by verktyg
It looks identical to the Grand Jubile in the 1980 catalog. Never saw a 1981 Moto catalog, they went belly up in 1981. I have part of the spec sheet for 1982...
according to the bulgier pages, the '79 has a 5-speed, the '80 has a 6-speed, and the '81 has bottle bosses. since mine's a 6 and without bottle bosses, i am guessing '80. bulgier shows it came with shifter bosses in '82.
It looks identical to the Grand Jubile in the 1980 catalog. Never saw a 1981 Moto catalog, they went belly up in 1981. I have part of the spec sheet for 1982...
according to the bulgier pages, the '79 has a 5-speed, the '80 has a 6-speed, and the '81 has bottle bosses. since mine's a 6 and without bottle bosses, i am guessing '80. bulgier shows it came with shifter bosses in '82.
Catalog specs were never reliable or accurate.... They were usually produced in the late summer or early fall to be ready for the Xmas buying spree. Also for spring/summer of the following year. So the 1979 catalog was probably put together in 1978 and so on.
Just a starting point and guideline.
verktyg
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05-11-15 | 09:27 AM
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What did you expect? Maybe you should have just made the thread just about the Motobecane itself, instead of embellishing it with your detailed war story about how you successfully screwed-over someone else who had wanted the bike. Your original post had more to do with that story than the bike.
In the end, I fault the seller for not giving the first buyer dibs on the bike.
In the end, I fault the seller for not giving the first buyer dibs on the bike.
I am a firm believer in the old saying "do on to others....".
I have been disappointed to hear I am 2nd in line but never said I can be there sooner or "I'LL" pay you more etc. I can understand that some buyers might say that they will be there yada yada yada and never show up so sellers might loose a sale because they have informed other buyers that someone is on the way only to have them not show. This may cause others to wonder why the item did not sell and move on or pass..
Sellers should never say they will hold if they won't and buyers should never swoop.
I sleep good at night.
JMHO, Regards, Ben
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