Toronto Fixed
Raving looney
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From: Toronto, ON, Canada
Bikes: 70s Leader Precision w/Shimano 600 (road), IRO Rob Roy (Fixed)
Newb question.. I was reading an article today that mentioned the need of a strong lockring, good hub yadda yadda for riding fixed... I'm pricing up wheelsets and am thinking Ksyrium Equipes right now, but have noticed them with the likes of Ultegra/Dura-Ace/Mavic hubs and wondered whether these are still considered good/hefty for fixed use. I plan on riding my FG around town, and as we all know the streets here are ****, so I want to make sure I have some decent circles guiding my way.
Are there any fixed-specific/preferred brands/things to look for in both hubs and rims/wheelsets? Local stores/tips Keith, I respect your reputation amongst the crowd here and I want the best for what I can afford (I think I'd go as north as $350/4 - but I need other stuff for the build too, so can't budget more now).
Are there any fixed-specific/preferred brands/things to look for in both hubs and rims/wheelsets? Local stores/tips Keith, I respect your reputation amongst the crowd here and I want the best for what I can afford (I think I'd go as north as $350/4 - but I need other stuff for the build too, so can't budget more now).
cab horn

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Bikes: 1987 Bianchi Campione
Dura ace NJS lockrings are like $10 retail. Formula/iro hubs are getting a fairly good rep around here as well. Miche even better. Phil Wood/Dura ace even better.
In that order. I've been riding my bottom of the line quando for more than a year now and it's been fine. If you weigh a lot more than me or really abuse your stuff (Skidding, hop skips and what not) cheap hubs are not the way to go, formula = minimum.
It's a good hub/lockring/cog combined with a good installation + followup and non abuse that keeps things all non stripped and awesome.
In that order. I've been riding my bottom of the line quando for more than a year now and it's been fine. If you weigh a lot more than me or really abuse your stuff (Skidding, hop skips and what not) cheap hubs are not the way to go, formula = minimum.
It's a good hub/lockring/cog combined with a good installation + followup and non abuse that keeps things all non stripped and awesome.
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Don't smoke, Mike.
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From: Toronto
Bikes: Devinci Tosca, IRO Rob Roy
I really liked my Forumla hubs when I ran them and the new owner has had zero issues. I had the high flange version w/ sealed cartridge bearings. I've heard of people cracking the nuts on them but I never had any issue.
Re: Kryptonite Mini Evo ... we're out of stock. Apparently those locks AREN'T discontinued, btw. I had my wires crossed and it's some of the other Evolution locks. They're getting upgraded to the same double-locking style as the NY series.
Re: Kryptonite Mini Evo ... we're out of stock. Apparently those locks AREN'T discontinued, btw. I had my wires crossed and it's some of the other Evolution locks. They're getting upgraded to the same double-locking style as the NY series.
Jonnys ilegitimate Father
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Newb question.. I was reading an article today that mentioned the need of a strong lockring, good hub yadda yadda for riding fixed... I'm pricing up wheelsets and am thinking Ksyrium Equipes right now, but have noticed them with the likes of Ultegra/Dura-Ace/Mavic hubs and wondered whether these are still considered good/hefty for fixed use. I plan on riding my FG around town, and as we all know the streets here are ****, so I want to make sure I have some decent circles guiding my way.
Are there any fixed-specific/preferred brands/things to look for in both hubs and rims/wheelsets? Local stores/tips Keith, I respect your reputation amongst the crowd here and I want the best for what I can afford (I think I'd go as north as $350/4 - but I need other stuff for the build too, so can't budget more now).
Are there any fixed-specific/preferred brands/things to look for in both hubs and rims/wheelsets? Local stores/tips Keith, I respect your reputation amongst the crowd here and I want the best for what I can afford (I think I'd go as north as $350/4 - but I need other stuff for the build too, so can't budget more now).
cab horn

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From: Toronto
Bikes: 1987 Bianchi Campione
Lordfoo is a weight weenie
So I says to Mable I says
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Bikes: '05 Urbanite Fixie, '06 Lemond Croix de Fer, '06 Jamis Dragon Pro, '07 IRO Bikeforums Track, '07 Planet-X Uncle John
But, ymmv. I'm going with Formula for the next wheelset.
Grad Student for Hire
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Bikes: 2006 Lemond Tourmalet; 198(?) Gardin mid-fixie conversion
lol.. only in the most practical sense of the term. Maybe if I had a better bag it wouldn't matter as much, but I really don't like carrying more than a few lbs over my shoulder.. and attaching a lock to my frame would a) uglify it, and b) make the occasional Queen St. bridge / Riverdale park -> Don Trail portage even more annoying (metal steps are slippery when wet!)
Shapelike - thanks for the update.. I guess I'll check with shops again in a few weeks.
Shapelike - thanks for the update.. I guess I'll check with shops again in a few weeks.
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From: reppin tha 416
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it hurts just looking at this bike...
Grad Student for Hire
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Bikes: 2006 Lemond Tourmalet; 198(?) Gardin mid-fixie conversion
My chain tension felt a bit weird this morning and when I got to work, I checked over the drivetrain, and one of the chainring bolts had almost made its way to freedom. So yeah.. I'm sure you already all know this, but check your chainring bolts. This has been a public service announcement, and we'd like to thank our sponsors, Blue Loctite. That is all.
Don't smoke Mike
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Bikes: monster island fixie, Fisher sugar, sexine conversion, OLMO Superlight
Jonnys ilegitimate Father
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My chain tension felt a bit weird this morning and when I got to work, I checked over the drivetrain, and one of the chainring bolts had almost made its way to freedom. So yeah.. I'm sure you already all know this, but check your chainring bolts. This has been a public service announcement, and we'd like to thank our sponsors, Blue Loctite. That is all.
This has been a public service announcement from someone who has had to drill out too many chainring bolts.
Raving looney
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From: Toronto, ON, Canada
Bikes: 70s Leader Precision w/Shimano 600 (road), IRO Rob Roy (Fixed)
Jeesh, ouch duppy looks like some nutso hunchback downhill fixie.. 
Thanks for all the advice, incredibly useful to know that I can't use the road stuff I was looking at... I love the idea of Open Pros, and will scour around to price up some hubs - I can't purchase yet, but will be in the next month so I want to get an idea of what I'm getting into. I doubt I'm going to be an abusive rider, yet.. I've never ridden fixed.. I do however want the option/peace of mind of being able to hop a curb here or there, or deal with an unexpected pothole without needing a true - my roadie back wheel suffers a lot under the extra commute weight/mistreatment I show it.
My Rob Roy frame will be here by Christmas at the latest I think, so plenty of time to get things straightened out.
Hate to ask questions that've probably been asked many times before... where do I shop for this stuff online? Point me to a reading thread if need be, I'm good with learning but the sticky threads don't seem to help me much here. I like browsing sites and drooling/dreaming

Thanks for all the advice, incredibly useful to know that I can't use the road stuff I was looking at... I love the idea of Open Pros, and will scour around to price up some hubs - I can't purchase yet, but will be in the next month so I want to get an idea of what I'm getting into. I doubt I'm going to be an abusive rider, yet.. I've never ridden fixed.. I do however want the option/peace of mind of being able to hop a curb here or there, or deal with an unexpected pothole without needing a true - my roadie back wheel suffers a lot under the extra commute weight/mistreatment I show it.
My Rob Roy frame will be here by Christmas at the latest I think, so plenty of time to get things straightened out.
Hate to ask questions that've probably been asked many times before... where do I shop for this stuff online? Point me to a reading thread if need be, I'm good with learning but the sticky threads don't seem to help me much here. I like browsing sites and drooling/dreaming
Dances With Cars
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Bikes: TBL Onyx Pro(ss converted), Pake SS (starting to look kinda pimped)
How much for the bottom part of of the knickers? I need to wrap my ankles.....
Jonnys ilegitimate Father
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That thing is an abomination. Saddle to bar drop is ridiculous...Q.R. rear wheel...and a head tube angle that looks like the one on my 85 Stumpjumper. I am gonna guess homemade in the guys garage with no thought to geometry other than making it look cool....altho even that is pretty hard to grasp.
Grad Student for Hire
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From: Toronto
Bikes: 2006 Lemond Tourmalet; 198(?) Gardin mid-fixie conversion
You will regret the locktite when it comes time to change yer chainring. If you tighten em down with a chainring bolt wrench there should be no need for locktite.
This has been a public service announcement from someone who has had to drill out too many chainring bolts.
This has been a public service announcement from someone who has had to drill out too many chainring bolts.
It looks like an attmempt to bring back the 90's persuit bike/funny bike craze.
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Grad Student for Hire
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Bikes: 2006 Lemond Tourmalet; 198(?) Gardin mid-fixie conversion
It's from today's FGG, and the claim is that it's a TT bike:
https://fixedgeargallery.com/2007/sep...sAlldredge.htm
https://fixedgeargallery.com/2007/sep...sAlldredge.htm
So I says to Mable I says
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Bikes: '05 Urbanite Fixie, '06 Lemond Croix de Fer, '06 Jamis Dragon Pro, '07 IRO Bikeforums Track, '07 Planet-X Uncle John
That thing is an abomination. Saddle to bar drop is ridiculous...Q.R. rear wheel...and a head tube angle that looks like the one on my 85 Stumpjumper. I am gonna guess homemade in the guys garage with no thought to geometry other than making it look cool....altho even that is pretty hard to grasp.
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From: reppin tha 416
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Bikes: Urbanite Road Bike, Mielle Fixed Gear Conversion, Vintage Lejeune Track Bike
Wow look at the bottom bracket area on the "TT" frame. I know the guy is learning but still yikes! Overheated maybe? Also since the seat tube is connected directly to the downtube, as opposed to the bottom bracket shell, doesn't that mean that a significant amount of force is placed on the downtube/BB weld? Yikes!
Enough ****ty bikes here's one of the nicest on FGG (actually it is my favourite). Look how clean the brazing is (the frame is clearcoated)? It looks like the lugs are pinstriped with brass. Beautiful!
https://www.fixedgeargallery.com/2006...eanBoijens.htm
Enough ****ty bikes here's one of the nicest on FGG (actually it is my favourite). Look how clean the brazing is (the frame is clearcoated)? It looks like the lugs are pinstriped with brass. Beautiful!
https://www.fixedgeargallery.com/2006...eanBoijens.htm
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Wow look at the bottom bracket area on the "TT" frame. I know the guy is learning but still yikes! Overheated maybe?
Enough ****ty bikes here's one of the nicest on FGG (actually it is my favourite). Look how clean the brazing is (the frame is clearcoated)? It looks like the lugs are pinstriped with brass. Beautiful!
https://www.fixedgeargallery.com/2006...eanBoijens.htm
Enough ****ty bikes here's one of the nicest on FGG (actually it is my favourite). Look how clean the brazing is (the frame is clearcoated)? It looks like the lugs are pinstriped with brass. Beautiful!
https://www.fixedgeargallery.com/2006...eanBoijens.htm
cheesy promo for beltdriven SS here
edit 51 18 gearing? my knees are hurting...
Don't smoke Mike
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Bikes: monster island fixie, Fisher sugar, sexine conversion, OLMO Superlight
"RIDE IN" MOVIE NIGHT

Please stay tuned... looks like the weather is not going to behave for a backyard showing this Thursday. We might have to bump it back a week.... or find someone with a tv! Whattaya wanna do?

Please stay tuned... looks like the weather is not going to behave for a backyard showing this Thursday. We might have to bump it back a week.... or find someone with a tv! Whattaya wanna do?
So I says to Mable I says
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Bikes: '05 Urbanite Fixie, '06 Lemond Croix de Fer, '06 Jamis Dragon Pro, '07 IRO Bikeforums Track, '07 Planet-X Uncle John
Exactly what I was thinking.. fugly!
I just went for a little spin at lunch and when I was getting on the elevator with my bike there was a UofT Fireman guy waiting as well... I mean, he was wearing the button-up shirt, not the full gear.
Anyhoo, he lets me get on first and when we get in he says "Fixed gear, eh? Whaddaya need brakes for?!" Too funny. Not exactly what I expected him to say when I saw him looking at my bike. Good times.
I just went for a little spin at lunch and when I was getting on the elevator with my bike there was a UofT Fireman guy waiting as well... I mean, he was wearing the button-up shirt, not the full gear.
Anyhoo, he lets me get on first and when we get in he says "Fixed gear, eh? Whaddaya need brakes for?!" Too funny. Not exactly what I expected him to say when I saw him looking at my bike. Good times.
Jonnys ilegitimate Father
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Dependent upon #'s I can host at my place. I have a big ***** t.v. and space for prolly 7-9. I asked my friend about the projector and I can't get my hands on it for the near future...it is being used for some art project.



