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Old 04-28-09 | 06:50 PM
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hammah time! i'll hold it and you whack it?
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Old 04-28-09 | 06:52 PM
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Old 04-28-09 | 07:14 PM
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lemme get this straight.. i'll hold it while you whack my crank until it comes off.

and all you want is dinner?

done and done.
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Old 04-28-09 | 08:26 PM
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I don't get it.
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Old 04-28-09 | 08:47 PM
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Hey jet, just wanted to get back to you on the wheel. I'll be down at king and bay tmrw from 9-5pm, email me and we can work something out.
My email is trueno92@gmail.com

The thing I don't get about this miele is that it has a 52cm seat tube but a lofty 56+cm top tube?!!
What frame geometry is this? I read "sport touring" but this is an unusual toptube length, no?

Someone here do justice to that cyclops, damn!
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Old 04-28-09 | 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by nerdsgirth
OH SNAP!

Vintage Cyclops Frameset and Bars
Vintage Custom-Built Track Bicycle Frame Set with Bars Built by: Canadian builder Mike Mulholland (Toronto, ON) Steel frame and fork Lugged frame Tube set: unknown Year: unknown Frame Size: 57 cm (bb to centre of top tube) Seat post size: either 26 or 26.8 mm Top tube measurement: 57 cm (centre of head tube to centre of seat tube) Seat tube to head tube drop: 10 mm English bottom bracket threading Columbus track ends/ dropouts Shaped chain stays Frame and fork are in great condition and paint is in good shape. A great ride! NOTE: Price includes headset, stem and track bars. Drop handlebars: 41 cm aluminum Cinelli criterium bars Stem: 120mm aluminum Cinelli Reason for selling: not going to track often enough, the bike deserves more use. This custom frame and fork were built in Toronto by Mike Mulholland who passed away in 2006. It’s hard to find info about the Cyclops company and its bikes because the company was a very small family-run frame building company. Cyclops was known locally for building very fine track racing frames, as well as road and touring bikes. Link to Pictures: https://kitchener.kijiji.ca/c-buy-and...AdIdZ107219324

Price: $550 Contact: Jasmin Hofer
519.595.8967
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Posted: 04/17/2009
That has been listed for months, I think late February. I am surprised he hasn't come down in price yet...

It is a pretty nice frame and the lugs are really beefy, I guess it would have been a sprinting frame? Maybe constructed of Columbus Max tubing?

edit: I walked into Dollarama and they have bike bells for....a buck. Totally wicked PLUS I heard that the cops were blitzing cyclists and handing out tickets for no bells, etc...

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Old 04-28-09 | 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by nerdsgirth
I would, but I already called up Jet and he is on his way back from Kitchener I hope someone buys it. That blue is intense!
Heh, if only I had a nice "Cyclops" pantographed Cinelli stem
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Old 04-28-09 | 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by jet sanchEz
...the cops were blitzing cyclists and handing out tickets for no bells, etc...
What a waste. Ticket people in the day for no bell, but ignore the people at night with no lights who run reds rights.
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Old 04-28-09 | 09:15 PM
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Old 04-28-09 | 09:17 PM
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hahahaha
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Old 04-29-09 | 05:49 AM
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what up all...

where are the cops "blitzing"? I dont have a bell...guess I better get one!
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Old 04-29-09 | 06:54 AM
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I heard it was the Bloor viaduct but I didn't see it....regardless, they will be doing it in the city now that spring is here. I was told that the ticket was $110 and we all know the city is broke so that is a lot of added incentive for the cops...
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Old 04-29-09 | 07:06 AM
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Originally Posted by jet sanchEz
I heard it was the Bloor viaduct but I didn't see it....regardless, they will be doing it in the city now that spring is here. I was told that the ticket was $110 and we all know the city is broke so that is a lot of added incentive for the cops...
Ugh. $110 for no bell. Time to put one back on. As the proud owner of a brand new mortgage, I don't think it would be too smart to get dinged for not having a bell.

Ha, I made a bad pun there.
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Old 04-29-09 | 07:29 AM
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Old 04-29-09 | 07:36 AM
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Originally Posted by trueno92
The thing I don't get about this miele is that it has a 52cm seat tube but a lofty 56+cm top tube?!!
What frame geometry is this? I read "sport touring" but this is an unusual toptube length, no?
That's about the same touring geometry as my Gardin conversion (passed down to me), whose fit I've been perpetually battling over the past few years. My road bike fits me like a glove (a 55 cm virtual TT Lemond, which has fairly relaxed geometry for a road bike, but much more aggressive than a touring bike), but the 52 cm ST on the Gardin means that I have to have lots of seatpost extension to get high enough above the BB to avoid knee pain**. Due to the slack angles, this puts me even further back from the cockpit; so even with a 90mm stem, I end up feeling a bit too stretched out. This only became an issue when I switched to drop bars for a more comfortable commute, but I can't go back to flat bars.

Just something to keep in mind -- hopefully your fit will go better.

** To the point that some lycra warrior in High Park felt that he needed to tell me that I had too much seatpost showing -- I'm truly sorry that my comfort + proper fit doesn't match your "fistful of seatpost" aesthetic.
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Old 04-29-09 | 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by duppy.conqueror
where are the cops "blitzing"?
Also watch out along St. George / Beverley near College (especially at Baldwin).. there's always a unit down there at the start of the nice weather season, busting cyclists for incomplete stops.
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Old 04-29-09 | 08:16 AM
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Originally Posted by LordFoo
That's about the same touring geometry as my Gardin conversion (passed down to me), whose fit I've been perpetually battling over the past few years. My road bike fits me like a glove (a 55 cm virtual TT Lemond, which has fairly relaxed geometry for a road bike, but much more aggressive than a touring bike), but the 52 cm ST on the Gardin means that I have to have lots of seatpost extension to get high enough above the BB to avoid knee pain**. Due to the slack angles, this puts me even further back from the cockpit; so even with a 90mm stem, I end up feeling a bit too stretched out. This only became an issue when I switched to drop bars for a more comfortable commute, but I can't go back to flat bars.

Just something to keep in mind -- hopefully your fit will go better.

** To the point that some lycra warrior in High Park felt that he needed to tell me that I had too much seatpost showing -- I'm truly sorry that my comfort + proper fit doesn't match your "fistful of seatpost" aesthetic.

well, i don't really see the visual ugliness of too much seat post... i think that roadie just had seat-post envy as u were clearly exposing more length than he ever could.

With those slack angles, your seatpost would be moving back further from the bottom bracket but this could be corrected with moving the saddle a bit more forward on the post, no?

This build is going to be a ghetto conglomerate of extreme proportions, as I just want it to be the single speed city crawler, but with all this top tube, i dont' think im ever going to reach the drops!

I compared it to my fuji track, 73.5 degree STA/HTA, 54cm seat tube and 56cm top tube, and this is longer.
My Bianchi brava has 53cm/53cm square frame geometry and by fluke the 11.5cm stem I put on there has me in the drops all day, although I may be too far forward on the bottom bracket to be efficiently producing power. Currently the nose of the saddle sits right over the bb, and this is the fit im trying to duplicate on the fuji and if possible, on the miele.

Operator, I have witnessed you crank like you have the legs of an Olympian, how far back should nose of saddle be over the BB?

Later this weekend I will bust out the camera and snap off the build play-by-play and post it up here.

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Old 04-29-09 | 09:11 AM
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I think the saddle setback is usually found by aligning your knee over the pedal spindle when the arm is horizontal. The longer the femur, the further back the saddle.

Funny coincidence for some time I had been riding a bit forward over the BB. Just yesterday I pushed the saddle back (and lowered it a bit to keep the same leg extension). Can't say if I feel a difference yet.
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Old 04-29-09 | 10:07 AM
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i find fore-aft to be really important and is now how i start fitting my bike, big difference in comfort and efficiency when that's done right
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Old 04-29-09 | 10:32 AM
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Hrm, will a 27" tire fit on a 700c rim? I think this Elite thing is a 27" rim...
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Old 04-29-09 | 10:47 AM
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I had no idea ambrosio elite 19 came in 27"..... !!



the hunt, continues!
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Old 04-29-09 | 10:56 AM
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elites are pre-700's, going back to der 80's.. blame the english

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Old 04-29-09 | 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by MattRennick



And believe me, I tried... no fun. Ok, maybe a little fun.

Matt, what was the saddle that walked away here? was it the one you got from me?
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Old 04-29-09 | 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by trueno92
Matt, what was the saddle that walked away here? was it the one you got from me?

Nope - B-17 Narrow (Antique Brown... Oiled, almost Black) - I actually passed the Turbo along to a good friend who found himself in need of a new saddle a couple of weeks ago. Bummer because I could use it now but I've got other stuff I can use and he didn't so whatever...
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Old 04-29-09 | 01:23 PM
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