Velo Vol 

I think I would be a lousy tandemer.

LesterOfPuppets

I get complaints every time I try to enter into the proper cadence range.

Other than that, the biggest problem for me is how to ride a bike without blowing a snot rocket every 20 minutes or so. I got one off last ride grinding up a hill at 5mph, I just leaned down really low first.

StanSeven

I just bet the other person has a different idea of proper cadence

rpenmanparker 

Does it have to be that way? There are lots of folks building custom tandems that could fit both riders perfectly. No the cadence is another thing altogether.

UnfilteredDregs

Ahhh cadence...for any given person I believe there's an optimal relationship between how much torque you can sustain at the pedal for a given aerobic effort, and the whole unweighting and "dragging your foot back through mud," thing makes for good souplesse. Seems my optimal cadence for cruising is mid to high 90s.

In the meantime I'm staring at my new carbon wheels that I can't ride yet because the damn valve stems I bought won't seat properly. pfffft.

I am going to look sooooooooooo much faster.

LesterOfPuppets

Did they pass the cat sniff test?

Ramona_W

Complaints? Proper cadence range? Jesus. I'm 53, I have asthma, and I only started putting anything like regular miles on a bike three weeks ago. So please excuse the hell out of me if I'm currently more comfortable at a different cadence than a younger person who's ridden bikes since birth and did the 100 mile loop alone two years ago. Failing that, accept the truth that stokers seem to wreak havoc with cadence wherever they are. Maybe the captains should team up but then everyone would want to be in charge. Still, the cadence range should be mind-blowing.

Ramona_W

Try "pix". And stay thirsty and hydrated, my friend.

Bunyanderman

They get very stretched out and lose their hydrophobic tendencies. They will soon get water flowing through the suit which causes a lot of drag.

UnfilteredDregs

Wheel box = Instant love.

Velo Vol 

Normally I would say HTFU. But in this case the fault appears to be with LoP and his energy-wasting cadence. So stick to your guns.

rpenmanparker 

A couple of years ago the asthma I never knew I had started making me short of breath when cycling, especially in chilly weather. Now I have to use the rescue inhaler before every ride. That is the only time I need it; other than that I have no asthma symptoms. But the inhaler really helps my riding.

Herbie53

Ivy Lane was a hoot again tonight. 50 minutes of getting punched in the face.

I am gonna miss that ride.

Trsnrtr

For one thing, good off the shelf tandems are expensive enough, let alone have a custom made one built. I rarely see a custom built tandem. 8-10k tandems are common place at a tandem rally and 90% of them aren't custom. Some go upwards of $15K and I've seen a lot of them.

Not entirely, but I've owned four and each has it's own characteristics. Pedaling a tandem is just a different feel in the legs, similar to a single but not just quite. It probably takes my wife and I a half dozen rides before our legs don't get sore after a 35 mile ride. Once we get acclimated, 60-75 mile rides are a snap.

datlas 

You are going to run these tubeless??

p.s. nice kitty pic, was that intentional??

Trsnrtr

Luckily, my wife and I are both spinners. I just checked Garmin Connect and our avg. cadence today was 93 rpm. As for age, I'm a month short of 64 and my wife is 63-1/2 and we do fine. Of course, we've been tandeming for over 30 years. Zonatandem here on BF and his wife are in their 70s and still ripping off the miles.

Trsnrtr

Like the Rails. Heading off to check their specs------- zoom!

edited to add: the 34s look pretty sweet. Already got 55s.

BillyD

Yes. Yes it is.

UnfilteredDregs

Yup...Dave (owner of November) runs them tubeless, quite a few other folks run them tubeless...I saw kitty sneak into the picture, he planned it.

Trsnrtr

Kitty photo-bombing is always acceptable on my screen and appreciated.

Ramona_W

Maybe I'm being too hard on LoP. It's not quite fair, I guess, since everyone comes here to vent and he's the only one whose SO is also in here and is available to reply with "WTH, man?". And I do try to reserve my WTHs to offline discussions. But this cadence thing seems to keep coming up everywhere.

rpenmanparker 

Yeah cadence has nothing to do with age. Maybe experience if your natural cadence is lower than your partners.

UnfilteredDregs

He usually does a Sean Penn and attacks the camera but sometimes I get lucky:

datlas 

Nice looking *****cat.

nondes 

My stoker (spouse) is in early 70s, fit from walking and swimming but doesn't cycle (or do spinning classes) nearly as much as I do. We did do a 200km 3-day rail trail in Quebec a few years ago and would like to do it again, but some flexibility is in order.