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Old 05-16-16, 07:20 PM
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I'm not "talking" to you but a weekend would be fun.
That's fine.

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I'll finish up in case you get tired.
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AG looks pretty serious.
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How many watches are needed for triathleting?
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Doug...

If you are pulling 22 mph, you are faster than the girls.

I have to figure out how to get them faster on the bike.
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Originally Posted by PepeM
How many watches are needed for triathleting?
One.

She probably has an entrant wrist band and possibly a timing chip on her arm. Typically, the timing chip is on the ankle, but it may be another timing chip.
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Doug...

If you are pulling 22 mph, you are faster than the girls.

I have to figure out how to get them faster on the bike.
Ride more? Remember, I have been riding for years and years. That's got to count for something.
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Originally Posted by datlas
AG looks pretty serious.
And muscular.
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Originally Posted by PepeM
How many watches are needed for triathleting?
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One.

She probably has an entrant wrist band and possibly a timing chip on her arm. Typically, the timing chip is on the ankle, but it may be another timing chip.
Right arm is entrant band, yes. Left has the watch and Scosche Rhythm+.
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Originally Posted by datlas
Ride more? Remember, I have been riding for years and years. That's got to count for something.
Truth.

They have not ridden since the race a few weeks back.
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Originally Posted by datlas
AG looks pretty serious.
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And muscular.
Whole lotta swimming, and the reason she's Atomic Girl is the gym Atomic Athlete she goes to (though less during Ironman builds). Which is similar in principle to the Stanford football strength program. And has a lot of the local Special Forces people working out at it, and some NFL players and Sean Payton have dropped in for workouts while in town.
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Originally Posted by Doug28450
Truth.

They have not ridden since the race a few weeks back.
I had great success with 2x20 @ 100% and 3x8 @ 105% on the trainer. Each workout once per week, and it should HURT. They'll get faster like that.
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And, for added fun, the movers come on Wednesday to schlep all our stuff up north. No rest for the weary...
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I've seen pictures of you on the basketball court. Mr. Lightweight.
Speaking of basketball...

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Originally Posted by PepeM
How many watches are needed for triathleting?
You generally want a backup for your backup to the backup of the main watch, so at least 4, but more can't hurt.

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Originally Posted by Bah Humbug
I had great success with 2x20 @ 100% and 3x8 @ 105% on the trainer. Each workout once per week, and it should HURT. They'll get faster like that.
I'm interval dumb.

What are those?

I'm also dumb on a lot of other stuff too.
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Originally Posted by Trsnrtr
Btw, my watch "tells" me the time and my DVR "tapes" tv shows. Also use my cell phone to "dial" people.
And a solid state disk drive has no disk and no drive.

And how many of the young'ns actually know why the "save" icon in software is a picture of a weird square with a corner missing?

Now get off my lawn.
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I think they shoulda went vintage with it. This would look good in bronze:

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Originally Posted by Dan333SP
You generally want a backup for your backup to the backup of the main watch, so at least 4, but more can't hurt.

No wonder you can't upgrade to CAT 5.
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Originally Posted by Doug28450
I'm interval dumb.

What are those?

I'm also dumb on a lot of other stuff too.
They're expressed as a percentage of FTP (hour-sustainable aerobic power). The first workout is two blocks of 20 minutes at that power (with a warmup first and five minute recovery in between) and the second is eight blocks of three minutes at 5% above that power, with two minutes of recovery. The combination do a great job of dragging up your measurable power, though done without longer trainer sessions (or real rides) they'll leave you flat after 80 minutes or so. But not a concern for your girls.
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Originally Posted by Bah Humbug
They're expressed as a percentage of FTP (hour-sustainable aerobic power). The first workout is two blocks of 20 minutes at that power (with a warmup first and five minute recovery in between) and the second is eight blocks of three minutes at 5% above that power, with two minutes of recovery. The combination do a great job of dragging up your measurable power, though done without longer trainer sessions (or real rides) they'll leave you flat after 80 minutes or so. But not a concern for your girls.
Nuts...

We don't have power meters.

I guess I could just stand behind them with a stick and tell them to go faster and swat them.
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Originally Posted by Dan333SP
You generally want a backup for your backup to the backup of the main watch, so at least 4, but more can't hurt.

Is that DCRainmaker?
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Originally Posted by Bah Humbug
They're expressed as a percentage of FTP (hour-sustainable aerobic power). The first workout is two blocks of 20 minutes at that power (with a warmup first and five minute recovery in between) and the second is eight blocks of three minutes at 5% above that power, with two minutes of recovery. The combination do a great job of dragging up your measurable power, though done without longer trainer sessions (or real rides) they'll leave you flat after 80 minutes or so. But not a concern for your girls.
This is true. So far this year I've been mostly limited to 1 hour or less trainer rides before work using Zwift and some structured intervals like the ones you mentioned, with one or two 2-3 hour rides outside on the weekend being my only "real" biking. I feel strong for the first hour of the fast group rides, but by the end I'll go from pulling to yo-yoing on the back. It's clearly an endurance thing, I need to work longer rides regularly into my schedule. As if time wasn't limited enough already.
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That's the one thing that bothers me about this sport, it just takes so much time.
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