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Old 08-25-16, 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by LAJ
Not P&R at all. It's the Texas attitude that's wearing, and that's all I'm addressing. Put it this way: It's no surprise Texas has all the bombs, because after all, Texas has all of everything else too, right?
It's not an attitude at all, it's a simple statement of fact. Maybe if Rocky Flats wasn't such a disaster in CO, we wouldn't be left holding the main nuke plant in the US. I still can't believe y'all let them get away with burying all that waste just 36" under the dirt and calling it a "nature preserve" now.

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Originally Posted by jtaylor996
It's not an attitude at all, it's a simple statement of fact. Maybe if Rocky Flats wasn't such a disaster in CO, we wouldn't be left holding the main nuke plant in the US. I still can't believe y'all let them get away with burying all that waste just 36" under the dirt and calling it a "nature preserve" now.
Nuclear plant waste is pretty stable. As long as there is no chance of it contaminating ground water it's relatively safe. Burying it in a desert is perfectly reasonable.
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Originally Posted by jtaylor996
It's not an attitude at all, it's a simple statement of fact. Maybe if Rocky Flats wasn't such a disaster in CO, we wouldn't be left holding the main nuke plant in the US. I still can't believe y'all let them get away with burying all that waste just 36" under the dirt and calling it a "nature preserve" now.
I'll be riding around it this evening. I like it, because I don't need a headlight.

If Colorado is such a disaster, why do you folks keep heading this way? Ski on your own hills, please. Hunt in your own backyard, if you would. We welcome the tourists, and of course, their dollars. The attitude? Not so much. As evidenced by this post I'm quoting.
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Originally Posted by LAJ
I'll be riding around it this evening. I like it, because I don't need a headlight.

If Colorado is such a disaster, why do you folks keep heading this way? Ski on your own hills, please. Hunt in your own backyard, if you would. We welcome the tourists, and of course, their dollars. The attitude? Not so much. As evidenced by this post I'm quoting.
If it weren't for family in the area, I'd have already moved to Colorado. Should I vacation there, I doubt anyone would know I was from Texas minus the license plates.

EDIT: Some people from Texas don't believe I'm from Texas.
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Westerners fighting over something other than water.
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Originally Posted by WalksOn2Wheels
If it weren't for family in the area, I'd have already moved to Colorado. Should I vacation there, I doubt anyone would know I was from Texas minus the license plates.

EDIT: Some people from Texas don't believe I'm from Texas.
Of course, you're more than welcome. Assimilate? Not necessary. Bloviate? Just don't.
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A guy named Buddy saying westerners are fighting. Now that's rich.
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Originally Posted by Heathpack
Eight Rio Olympic swimming medals out of my one little suburban town of 180,000 people, BTW. Five of them gold medals!
Wait, do you live in Texas?
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Originally Posted by Heathpack
The difference being that I am only *acting* low-key and easygoing, I'm actually not.

Oh?
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So tourists aren't cool anymore? Because the next county over they continue to build anything and everything to lure out-of-staters (including Texans) to come spend money.
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Originally Posted by jtaylor996
How do you get a dog to follow those instructions? I keep telling mine to go get me the paper, but it never works...
I had a dog that brought the paper in every morning. I did not teach him to do it.

When I would go out in the morning to get the paper he would go with me. After about a week of this he grabbed the paper from my hand one morning and carried it to the door. After about a week of that, all I had to do was open the door in the morning, he would find the paper and bring it to me. One morning he had made a few trips around the neighborhood to deliver about a half dozen papers to my doorstep.
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Originally Posted by LAJ
Of course, you're more than welcome. Assimilate? Not necessary. Bloviate? Just don't.
That's the thing. It wouldn't be a matter of assimilation. I just wouldn't ever mention Texas unless someone asked. And even then I might hang my head a little.

I want to say more, but I can't think of a nice way to say it, so I guess I'll shut up now.

And when I do get there, I'll hit you up for a ride so you can drop me.
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Originally Posted by LAJ
Not P&R at all. It's the Texas attitude that's wearing, and that's all I'm addressing. Put it this way: It's no surprise Texas has all the bombs, because after all, Texas has all of everything else too, right?
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You'll have to wait I didn't get the new card yet.
It was delivered to a warehouse in NJ already.
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Nuclear plant waste is pretty stable. As long as there is no chance of it contaminating ground water it's relatively safe. Burying it in a desert is perfectly reasonable.
Nuclear plants are one thing, but Rocky Flats was a weapons processing facility, which operated in secrecy without oversight for most of its' history. Somehow, they negotiated that they only needed to clean up the top 36" of soil in return for leaving all the contamination in place below that. Everywhere else in the US, like the Hanford site, they're digging and processing ALL of the contamination and returning things to nature.

That's why I don't get what's going on at Rocky Flats. Like, we need to clean up every scrap at a plant in the middle of nowhere, but for a heavily polluted site right next a metropolitan area it's ok to just leave it there? And hope that somehow nobody (or no animal) ever digs there for the next 30 millenia?
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Originally Posted by LAJ
I'll be riding around it this evening. I like it, because I don't need a headlight.

If Colorado is such a disaster, why do you folks keep heading this way? Ski on your own hills, please. Hunt in your own backyard, if you would. We welcome the tourists, and of course, their dollars. The attitude? Not so much. As evidenced by this post I'm quoting.
I never said CO is a disaster, just that they're partly responsible for TX having all that nuke material. Seriously, I'm not the one with the attitude here. You're literally calling all 27 million Texans jerks and acting like you have the high ground.
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Nuclear plants are one thing, but Rocky Flats was a weapons processing facility, which operated in secrecy without oversight for most of its' history. Somehow, they negotiated that they only needed to clean up the top 36" of soil in return for leaving all the contamination in place below that. Everywhere else in the US, like the Hanford site, they're digging and processing ALL of the contamination and returning things to nature.

That's why I don't get what's going on at Rocky Flats. Like, we need to clean up every scrap at a plant in the middle of nowhere, but for a heavily polluted site right next a metropolitan area it's ok to just leave it there? And hope that somehow nobody (or no animal) ever digs there for the next 30 millenia?
The Kerr-McGee plant around here that processed yellow cake uranium was shut down in 1993. They are still working on cleaning the site. Anyone working within 1 mile of the plant has to be in full HAZMAT radiation suits and needs full decontamination every day when they go home.

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Seriously, I'm not the one with the attitude here.
It's me. You got a problem with that?
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I never said CO is a disaster, just that they're partly responsible for TX having all that nuke material. Seriously, I'm not the one with the attitude here. You're literally calling all 27 million Texans jerks and acting like you have the high ground.
The average elevation of Colorado is 6800'. The average elevation of Texas is 1700'. So, I believe he does have the high ground.
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
It's me. You got a problem with that, Buddy?
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How do you get a dog to follow those instructions? I keep telling mine to go get me the paper, but it never works...
A vet once told me that you can break a dog to a newspaper but you can't break him to pee on just yesterday's paper.
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In CO you can legally take the high road.
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Originally Posted by jtaylor996
People keep saying that... but it's crazy.
I've never said that. I like Texans. Seriously.

Texans my be brash and braggarts but I travel a lot in this country and have found Texans to be the most friendly and generous people, bar none. Of course, most of my experience is with rural areas.
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the average elevation of colorado is 6800'. The average elevation of texas is 1700'. So, i believe he does have the high ground.
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Originally Posted by WalksOn2Wheels
That's the thing. It wouldn't be a matter of assimilation. I just wouldn't ever mention Texas unless someone asked. And even then I might hang my head a little.

I want to say more, but I can't think of a nice way to say it, so I guess I'll shut up now.

And when I do get there, I'll hit you up for a ride so you can drop me.
Deal. There is no worry you will get left behind, so don't sweat that. I ride in the manner I post..... Every so often I drope the hamer, otherwise, I'm a very casual rider that enjoys a bike ride as much as All Y'All.
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