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LesterOfPuppets 04-21-17 07:50 PM


Originally Posted by Trsnrtr (Post 19528820)

Who let that single guy in there?

rjones28 04-21-17 08:03 PM


Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets (Post 19528896)
Who let that single guy in there?

There's always that one guy...

Velo Vol 04-21-17 08:05 PM


Originally Posted by Trsnrtr (Post 19528820)
Every good ride starts and ends at a coffee shop:

I've never done this.

LAJ 04-21-17 08:15 PM


Originally Posted by Trsnrtr (Post 19528820)
We had 40 tandems today in Huntsville. Didn't take many pics today. I'll try to do better tomorrow.

Every good ride starts and ends at a coffee shop:

https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2941/3...e4ea6375_c.jpg042017 by trsnrtr, on Flickr

Getting ride instructions:

Looks fun!

BillyD 04-21-17 08:17 PM


Originally Posted by RollCNY (Post 19528664)
Hey stranger,
Stick with screws. For a fence that you intend to keep, screws hold better, allow you to pull and reinstall boards at your leisure, and come in colors that blend well. At my old house, i built a 6' high, 280' long fence out of full dimensional 1x6's, screwed every board by hand, and never regretted it. As the boards dried, I never had one pull loose, pop nails, or split.

Do it right, Bill. Good fences make good neighbors.


Originally Posted by rpenmanparker (Post 19528712)
You're saying pro fence builders do it by hand. I dunno, but it seems unpossible.

Sup Roll! Here's the whole picture. Stockade fence comes in 8 ft sections, factory made with nails. Sections are starting to go now from rot and age, I'm just doing temp repairs until such time I will replace ALL the fence. Screws are overkill for already dying fence. To just replace bad sections is tempting, but they need staining in order to match, and the individual boards of matching width may be hard to find anyway.

So temp repairs are called for. Staples will be fine, they'll hold just as well if not better than the original nails. I've been here 11 years and that fence is just starting to go, so I'm convinced the staples will hold till it's time to replace the whole crummy thing. Which actually may begin next year. Screws just are overkill and a waste, really.

Rowan 04-21-17 08:23 PM


Originally Posted by BillyD (Post 19528966)
Sup Roll! Here's the whole picture. Stockade fence comes in 8 ft sections, factory made with nails. Sections are starting to go now from rot and age, I'm just doing temp repairs until such time I will replace ALL the fence. Screws are overkill for already dying fence. To just replace bad sections is tempting, but they need staining in order to match, and the individual boards of matching width may be hard to find anyway.

So temp repairs are called for. Staples will be fine, they'll hold just as well if not better than the original nails. I've been here 11 years and that fence is just starting to go, so I'm convinced the staples will hold till it's time to replace the whole crummy thing. Which actually may begin next year. Screws just are overkill and a waste, really.

Thre is post-and-rail fencing at work (used to be that there were a lot of horses there, and it includes a dressage area). All the rails are held on with tech screws. We are slowly dismantling all of it. The screws can be recycled for other uses (albeit, there are a lot of them). The property is right next to the sea. Few of the galvanised screws are rusty (like about 2% of them). Pretty well like all the other galvanised wire fencing and fittings around the place.

Not saying screws are the answer, just that they appeal to the sustainability part of me and aren't really a waste, if you are prepared to put in the time to insert them and take them out again. Which I know you aren't.

Velo Vol 04-21-17 08:23 PM


Originally Posted by BillyD (Post 19528966)
so I'm convinced the staples will hold till it's time to replace the whole crummy thing. Which actually may begin next year.

http://www.worthwhilesmile.com/wp-co.../7fence/01.jpg

PepeM 04-21-17 08:24 PM


Originally Posted by Velo Vol (Post 19528799)
wut

Also, I thought you didn't have a car.

I don't, I'm driving a rental.

Good thing about racing for the university's team is that they pay for the car rental, hotel, and racing fees so I can go get droped. The parents paying $65,000 per year for their kids to go to school here must be proud.

zymphad 04-21-17 08:34 PM


f4rrest 04-21-17 08:36 PM


Originally Posted by PepeM (Post 19528984)
I don't, I'm driving a rental.

Good thing about racing for the university's team is that they pay for the car rental, hotel, and racing fees so I can go get droped. The parents paying $65,000 per year for their kids to go to school here must be proud.

Do you go to school there?

seedsbelize 04-21-17 08:45 PM


Originally Posted by Trsnrtr (Post 19528820)
We had 40 tandems today in Huntsville. Didn't take many pics today. I'll try to do better tomorrow.

Every good ride starts and ends at a coffee shop:

https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2941/3...e4ea6375_c.jpg042017 by trsnrtr, on Flickr

Getting ride instructions:

https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2848/3...f79271d8_z.jpg042017-1 by trsnrtr, on Flickr

Old church in Mooresville, AL:

https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2807/3...91aa0a33_z.jpgMooresville , AL by trsnrtr, on Flickr

Is it a requirement to wear matching kit?

RollCNY 04-21-17 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by seedsbelize (Post 19529043)
Is it a requirement to wear matching kit?

Only if someone else does.

BillyD 04-21-17 08:53 PM


Originally Posted by Rowan (Post 19528980)
Not saying screws are the answer, just that they appeal to the sustainability part of me and aren't really a waste, if you are prepared to put in the time to insert them and take them out again. Which I know you aren't.

Yeah, screws are great and that's what I've been using the last few years as some spots deteriorate. But when you have whole sections going bad, screws are a lot of back breaking work. Each 8-foot section contains at least 24 individual boards, which have to be attached to three horizontal frame pieces. That's 24x3 screws per section, and there's a good 5 or 6 sections that need mending this year. That's a lot of screwing.

Replacing the sections would make more sense except for the fact I'd have to hire somebody to help lift and place those suckers. Then it doesn't make sense to just do sections.

rjones28 04-21-17 08:59 PM


Originally Posted by BillyD (Post 19528966)
Sup Roll! Here's the whole picture. Stockade fence comes in 8 ft sections, factory made with nails. Sections are starting to go now from rot and age, I'm just doing temp repairs until such time I will replace ALL the fence. Screws are overkill for already dying fence. To just replace bad sections is tempting, but they need staining in order to match, and the individual boards of matching width may be hard to find anyway.

So temp repairs are called for. Staples will be fine, they'll hold just as well if not better than the original nails. I've been here 11 years and that fence is just starting to go, so I'm convinced the staples will hold till it's time to replace the whole crummy thing. Which actually may begin next year. Screws just are overkill and a waste, really.


Originally Posted by Rowan (Post 19528980)
Thre is post-and-rail fencing at work (used to be that there were a lot of horses there, and it includes a dressage area). All the rails are held on with tech screws. We are slowly dismantling all of it. The screws can be recycled for other uses (albeit, there are a lot of them). The property is right next to the sea. Few of the galvanised screws are rusty (like about 2% of them). Pretty well like all the other galvanised wire fencing and fittings around the place.

Not saying screws are the answer, just that they appeal to the sustainability part of me and aren't really a waste, if you are prepared to put in the time to insert them and take them out again. Which I know you aren't.

I can't believe it hasn't already been suggested.

http://www.staples-3p.com/s7/is/imag..._sc7?$splssku$

RollCNY 04-21-17 08:59 PM

Premade fence sections generally suck. Full dimensional lumber, stick built. For my fence, I think I used about 3800 screws in a three day weekend. My hand remained curled into a trigger grip form for the next 3 days.

RollCNY 04-21-17 09:01 PM

So after a long drought of cycling, I have commenced riding again, with my first brutal ride over the hills south of Binghamton. Yikes, I am out of shape.

rpenmanparker 04-21-17 09:02 PM


Originally Posted by RollCNY (Post 19529068)
Premade fence sections generally suck. Full dimensional lumber, stick built. For my fence, I think I used about 3800 screws in a three day weekend. My hand remained curled into a trigger grip form for the next 3 days.

More power to you . I can't turn 5 screw without coming down with a 6 month case of tennis elbow. But seriously, why no power tool for the screws? It is pretty standard, no?

rjones28 04-21-17 09:04 PM


Originally Posted by RollCNY (Post 19529073)
So after a long drought of cycling, I have commenced riding again, with my first brutal ride over the hills south of Binghamton. Yikes, I am out of shape.

Did you break the glass on your emergency gear?

RollCNY 04-21-17 09:05 PM


Originally Posted by rpenmanparker (Post 19529074)
More power to you . I can't turn 5 screw without coming down with a 6 month case of tennis elbow. But seriously, why no power tool for the screws? It is pretty standard, no?

I didn' use a screw driver. I used my corded drill. That is a power tool.

rjones28 04-21-17 09:08 PM

[MENTION=183557]rpenmanparker[/MENTION] may need to see his optician.

RollCNY 04-21-17 09:09 PM


Originally Posted by rjones28 (Post 19529078)
Did you break the glass on your emergency gear?

It was bad. I cursed. I have not finished the new bike with the 34 -28 wee gear. Instead, I rode the Cinelli, with 39-25 not so wee gear. The difference between wee and not so wee is significant.

rpenmanparker 04-21-17 09:09 PM


Originally Posted by RollCNY (Post 19529081)

I didn' use a screw driver. I used my corded drill. That is a power tool.

Sorry, I thought you were saying that doing it by hand was hard work. My bad. Doing it at all was hard work!

LesterOfPuppets 04-21-17 09:10 PM


Originally Posted by RollCNY (Post 19529081)

I didn' use a screw driver. I used my corded drill. That is a power tool.

If you wanna build a fence with screws the right way...

http://oldtoolheaven.com/hand_drills/drillimg/d3lg.jpg

:)

rjones28 04-21-17 09:11 PM


Originally Posted by RollCNY (Post 19529090)
It was bad. I cursed. I have not finished the new bike with the 34 -28 wee gear. Instead, I rode the Cinelli, with 39-25 not so wee gear. The difference between wee and not so wee is significant.

Sounds rough.

rpenmanparker 04-21-17 09:11 PM


Originally Posted by rjones28 (Post 19529087)
[MENTION=183557]rpenmanparker[/MENTION] may need to see his optician.

You're right there. I read right through the trigger finger thing. I expected him to be saying his hand was curled like around a screwdriver and didn't bother to read what he really wrote. 50 lashes.


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