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datlas 04-27-17 01:45 PM


Originally Posted by BillyD (Post 19542635)
I imagine it's a nationwide epidemic.

It is, and because it's fairly pure you can get good "results" with snorting or smoking it, so the needle is not necessary. Makes it even easier to try it. And if you have the tendency (receptors?), it can take you to a very special place, and you will want to keep going back for more.

No bueno. Muy peligroso. Danger, will robinson.

Dan333SP 04-27-17 01:49 PM

I believe USAC will disqualify someone if their name appears on a race result but there isn't a corresponding Strava upload within 24 hours. It's just not worth taking any chances.

RE: opioids... we have an entire team of nurses here that spend all day reviewing scripts and pain management doctor's treatment plans to ensure they're at least trying to ween people off these things. The whole subjective pain scale thing is a disaster, opioids are way over-prescribed and they are super additive.

BillyD 04-27-17 01:49 PM


Originally Posted by Dan333SP (Post 19542585)
We operate in a universe where one unassailable truth is: Strava or it didn't happen. I'm not sure I understand how you can have a ride in a logbook, but not on Strava.

Excuse me but . . . . **** strava!

Dan333SP 04-27-17 01:52 PM


Originally Posted by BillyD (Post 19542651)
Excuse me but . . . . **** strava!

I'm flagging this for further review.

LAJ 04-27-17 01:53 PM

Seems weird that heroin is cheaper than pain pills now. Back in the day, pain pills were the poor mans heroin, and were used to get you by til the good stuff hit.

BillyD 04-27-17 01:53 PM


Originally Posted by sbxx1985 (Post 19542633)
So where's our fence photo?

I'll have to take some of that ugly fence.

BillyD 04-27-17 01:55 PM


Originally Posted by Dan333SP (Post 19542660)
I'm flagging this for further review.

I got your flag right here, buddy!

:lol:

datlas 04-27-17 01:59 PM


Originally Posted by Dan333SP (Post 19542650)
I believe USAC will disqualify someone if their name appears on a race result but there isn't a corresponding Strava upload within 24 hours. It's just not worth taking any chances.

RE: opioids... we have an entire team of nurses here that spend all day reviewing scripts and pain management doctor's treatment plans to ensure they're at least trying to ween people off these things. The whole subjective pain scale thing is a disaster, opioids are way over-prescribed and they are super additive.

Agree. That said, I have a handful of patients with legitimate severe pain (one lady has scoliosis so bad I can't believe she is alive!) and if there are no other options, there CAN be a role for using these medicines.

But probably 75% of the time they are over-used and/or diverted and/or abused.

Dan333SP 04-27-17 01:59 PM

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-aeb0_OlHr9...600/strava.jpg

Dan333SP 04-27-17 02:02 PM


Originally Posted by datlas (Post 19542677)
Agree. That said, I have a handful of patients with legitimate severe pain (one lady has scoliosis so bad I can't believe she is alive!) and if there are no other options, there CAN be a role for using these medicines.

But probably 75% of the time they are over-used and/or diverted and/or abused.

The good news is that the word is getting out on how dangerous they are. I talk to a lot of people who have serious injuries and are given legitimate scripts for opioids, but are not taking them because they're worried about developing a dependency. Sure, they serve a purpose, but if you can stand the pain with ibuprofen or whatever, that's a much better idea.

topslop1 04-27-17 02:05 PM

I know I'm supposed to be looking for mountain bikes.. but.. this looks pretty cool, decent?

https://dallas.craigslist.org/ftw/bik/6093239276.html

datlas 04-27-17 02:05 PM


Originally Posted by Dan333SP (Post 19542690)
The good news is that the word is getting out on how dangerous they are. I talk to a lot of people who have serious injuries and are given legitimate scripts for opioids, but are not taking them because they're worried about developing a dependency. Sure, they serve a purpose, but if you can stand the pain with ibuprofen or whatever, that's a much better idea.

Agree 100%.

rpenmanparker 04-27-17 02:11 PM


Originally Posted by Velo Vol (Post 19542432)
How bad does a doctor have to be to be de-licensed? Scary.

The cause isn't publicly known, but it is doubtful to have been related to performance. It appears to have been a substance abuse issue. In my experience he was a superb cardiologist.

Dan333SP 04-27-17 02:13 PM


Originally Posted by topslop1 (Post 19542696)
I know I'm supposed to be looking for mountain bikes.. but.. this looks pretty cool, decent?

https://dallas.craigslist.org/ftw/bik/6093239276.html

That bike will make you a Serious Cyclist.

Seriously- get an MTB. You have a nice Synapse, right? That thing is way over the top for your current needs.

rpenmanparker 04-27-17 02:15 PM


Originally Posted by datlas (Post 19542677)
Agree. That said, I have a handful of patients with legitimate severe pain (one lady has scoliosis so bad I can't believe she is alive!) and if there are no other options, there CAN be a role for using these medicines.

But probably 75% of the time they are over-used and/or diverted and/or abused.

Modern opioids were developed to be less addictive, but appear to have missed that mark. But are they worse than the prior versions like codeine? I have no idea. All I can say is codeine was used for a long time, and 60 years ago you never heard of an abuse epidemic.

seedsbelize 04-27-17 02:17 PM


Originally Posted by Trsnrtr (Post 19542605)
Unlike many others who strava every walk and every mile they chalk up on a trainer, I ride my bike to the store and don't bother with any sort of electronic devices or manually upload the miles. The convenient store is a 3 mile round trip. The barber is a 2 mile round trip and the local cafe is also a 1 miler. I don't strava them but maybe I should start. ;)

Same. Let's keep it sane.

sbxx1985 04-27-17 02:19 PM


Originally Posted by topslop1 (Post 19542696)
I know I'm supposed to be looking for mountain bikes.. but.. this looks pretty cool, decent?

https://dallas.craigslist.org/ftw/bik/6093239276.html

I test rode that bike. I didn't like it.

datlas 04-27-17 02:24 PM


Originally Posted by rpenmanparker (Post 19542725)
Modern opioids were developed to be less addictive, but appear to have missed that mark. But are they worse than the prior versions like codeine? I have no idea. All I can say is codeine was used for a long time, and 60 years ago you never heard of an abuse epidemic.

I think that opiates have been around for a long time, remember the opium wars??

But they have become more available. So let's just say that 10% of the population is "at risk" for developing a problem with opiates. Sixty years ago let's say 5% of the population could try/get/use opiates, so assuming these are independent variables only 0.5% of the population would have an opiate problem. Nowadays, with possible exposure to strong opiates quite high (even if you got some after dental surgery etc.) so let's say that 50% of the population can get exposed to opiates, you end up with 5% of the population having a problem.

Comprende usted?

seedsbelize 04-27-17 02:25 PM


Originally Posted by Dan333SP (Post 19542690)
The good news is that the word is getting out on how dangerous they are. I talk to a lot of people who have serious injuries and are given legitimate scripts for opioids, but are not taking them because they're worried about developing a dependency. Sure, they serve a purpose, but if you can stand the pain with ibuprofen or whatever, that's a much better idea.

Plus, you can reap great profits unloading them within 100 yards of a school.

seedsbelize 04-27-17 02:28 PM


Originally Posted by datlas (Post 19542752)
I think that opiates have been around for a long time, remember the opium wars??

But they have become more available. So let's just say that 10% of the population is "at risk" for developing a problem with opiates. Sixty years ago let's say 5% of the population could try/get/use opiates, so assuming these are independent variables only 0.5% of the population would have an opiate problem. Nowadays, with possible exposure to strong opiates quite high (even if you got some after dental surgery etc.) so let's say that 50% of the population can get exposed to opiates, you end up with 5% of the population having a problem.

Comprende usted?

No need to use the formal in this instance.

rpenmanparker 04-27-17 02:29 PM


Originally Posted by hueyhoolihan (Post 19542120)
you know, Whole Foods doesn't sell any kind of baloney. none.

I wonder if you pronounced it right, would they know what you were talking about. And they most surely do sell Mortadella imported from Bologna. Damn that stuff tastes good. Too good for Oscar Meyer.

seedsbelize 04-27-17 02:31 PM

Real feel 112°A

jtaylor996 04-27-17 02:31 PM


Originally Posted by topslop1 (Post 19542696)
I know I'm supposed to be looking for mountain bikes.. but.. this looks pretty cool, decent?

https://dallas.craigslist.org/ftw/bik/6093239276.html

No, shame on you!

Also, that's the price with no wheels... I think it's way overpriced.

rpenmanparker 04-27-17 02:32 PM


Originally Posted by datlas (Post 19542752)
I think that opiates have been around for a long time, remember the opium wars??

But they have become more available. So let's just say that 10% of the population is "at risk" for developing a problem with opiates. Sixty years ago let's say 5% of the population could try/get/use opiates, so assuming these are independent variables only 0.5% of the population would have an opiate problem. Nowadays, with possible exposure to strong opiates quite high (even if you got some after dental surgery etc.) so let's say that 50% of the population can get exposed to opiates, you end up with 5% of the population having a problem.

Comprende usted?

How more available. When I was 5, my ENT gave me codeine every time I had my ears lanced. You can't get more available than that.

datlas 04-27-17 02:34 PM


Originally Posted by rpenmanparker (Post 19542777)
How more available. When I was 5, my ENT gave me codeine every time I had my ears lanced. You can't get more available than that.

Codeine is relatively "weak" so much less likely to cause an addiction problem. I believe that tylenol with low-dose codeine is OTC in Canada.


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