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Old 12-12-20, 11:54 AM
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Very foggy morning with slick roads. A friend riding to start wiped out and in hospital with hip fracture. I hitched a ride home on my friend’s car. I think the Habanero complements the Porsche quite nicely.


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Originally Posted by datlas
Very foggy morning with slick roads. A friend riding to start wiped out and in hospital with hip fracture. I hitched a ride home on my friend’s car. I think the Habanero complements the Porsche quite nicely.


Nice! The wheels on that Porsche, though.....Yeesh.
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Nice! The wheels on that Porsche, though.....Yeesh.
The irony is this is NOT my friend’s nicest car. He has an orange Mclaren convertible that is approaching super car status, or so I am told.

I enjoy telling him his car is nice, but it’s no Saturn.
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The irony is this is NOT my friend’s nicest car. He has an orange Mclaren convertible that is approaching super car status, or so I am told.

I enjoy telling him his car is nice, but it’s no Saturn.

Four door porsche and four door mini look weird to me.
Still a nice car though. If he ever wants an old forrestor I would be down for a trade........
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Glad the engineer son brought home his 3d printer. Making me a crank arm stand or two.

Woah! That’s pretty sweet. How long did it take to do that?
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In other music news, Geezer Butler just picked up a pair of 64 Fenders, Jazz and Precision.


I have a korean made 5 string spector legend that I have been lazily trying to sell for a while. It would look great just on the outside of that picture.
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My running theory is that little dogs are ******g maniacs because owners let them get away with **** because they're small and they think that the impotent fury is somewhere between amusing and harmless; that all feeds in to a toilet bowl swirl of megalomania and you've eventually got a figurative rabid dog on your hands (damn it, I told myself I'd avoid P&R topics).

And while a lot of people are very dumb, most at least have the sense to understand that bigger dogs can be dangerous if completely unchecked, and will at least make some kind of effort to correct them.

IOW, it all comes back to the owners.
We had a Golden Retriever, the most friendly, anxious-to-please of dogs. During his adolescence, he was like all adolescent dogs - aggressive, nippy, etc. My wife (who'd never had a puppy before) called me one day in tears - "It's like he's POSSESSED!!!" I was able to calm her down by pointing out all puppies go through this. To get him past this, I had to be very firm with him. Once he KNEW who was The Boss, he settled down A LOT, because there was order in the world, and he didn't have to be The Boss.

Many people who own small dogs don't do this and the dog ends up thinking they have to be The Boss. So, when they bark or snarl at other people, instead of saying, "NO!" in the command voice, the owners try to reassure them using the praising voice - which just reinforces the behavior. In fact Mrs. GeneJockey has a tendency to do this with our little dog, Dory, which I keep trying to break her of. She bought a bunch of puppy books, but I swear she never reads them, and tries to substitute HUMAN psychology for DOG psychology in dealing with Dory.

Fortunately, Dory is not one of those fearless terrier types, nor is she a quivering fear-aggressive Chihuahua type. Could be growing up with a Greyhound who's the size of a city bus by comparison!
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Originally Posted by bampilot06
Four door porsche and four door mini look weird to me.
Still a nice car though. If he ever wants an old forrestor I would be down for a trade........
The newest iteration of the Panamera is SO MUCH BETTER than the first, though. This looks like a stretched 911, whereas the previous one......

EDIT: apparently that's a Taycan.
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I think that's only partially true. Many of these smaller breeds were bred to be hunters and seek out rats, rabbits and other nuisance critters. They were bred for the killer instinct. A 12 inch Jack Russel is a fearless killer. I've seen Daschunds ranked as the No. 1 most aggressive dog breed . . . I think Heathpack still hasn't completely forgiven me for mentioning that here once before.
Sure, some small sporting breeds have instincts that can compound the issue, but it still comes back to the owners, when it comes to aggression towards people, at least. As opposed to some larger breeds, I'm not aware of any smaller breeds that have been bred with aggression towards humans as a desirable trait (this is actually similar to pitbulls - they were bred with dog-aggression but those that showed aggression towards human handlers were, uh.. culled).
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Originally Posted by bampilot06
Woah! That’s pretty sweet. How long did it take to do that?
8 hour print. This one though is too tall, so #2 is currently printing. It will be 2cm shorter. I’m trying to find a way to shorten the first one to make it work.

I really like the Taycan. I wish they did it with the 3L TT and shaved 1500 pounds from it. But, I’d take one in a heartbeat, just too expensive. I also like the current Panamera, and considered a 4S when I bought my current car in mid-19. It was about $25k over budget.

And, IMO, you have to get those wheels if you get a Taycan.
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Originally Posted by WhyFi
Sure, some small sporting breeds have instincts that can compound the issue, but it still comes back to the owners, when it comes to aggression towards people, at least. As opposed to some larger breeds, I'm not aware of any smaller breeds that have been bred with aggression towards humans as a desirable trait (this is actually similar to pitbulls - they were bred with dog-aggression but those that showed aggression towards human handlers were, uh.. culled).
Exactly. As I mentioned above, a lot of owners of small dogs simply don't take the aggression seriously - "Awww! He thinks he's a Doberman! Isn't that CUTE!!!" - and if you start out with a dog like a Dachshund or Terrier that needs a firm hand, and you DON'T train it properly, you compound the problem.
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Originally Posted by Mojo31
8 hour print. This one though is too tall, so #2 is currently printing. It will be 2cm shorter. I’m trying to find a way to shorten the first one to make it work.

I really like the Taycan. I wish they did it with the 3L TT and shaved 1500 pounds from it. But, I’d take one in a heartbeat, just too expensive. I also like the current Panamera, and considered a 4S when I bought my current car in mid-19. It was about $25k over budget.

And, IMO, you have to get those wheels if you get a Taycan.
You might say, you're quite 'Taycan' with it.
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Originally Posted by datlas
Very foggy morning with slick roads. A friend riding to start wiped out and in hospital with hip fracture. I hitched a ride home on my friend’s car. I think the Habanero complements the Porsche quite nicely.
Ouch - best wishes on a speedy recovery to your friend.

Also, don't you know that Seasuckers are just an accident waiting to happen?!?! Then again, we're talking about Ti, so if the bike would have flown off, the bike would have been fine but the road would have been wrecked.
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You might say, you're quite 'Taycan' with it.
You might, but I’m a self-admitting fanboi of the brand.
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You might, but I’m a self-admitting fanboi of the brand.
I have admired them from afar for years. But only from afar. I don't have the money or driving skills.
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Originally Posted by genejockey
We had a Golden Retriever, the most friendly, anxious-to-please of dogs. During his adolescence, he was like all adolescent dogs - aggressive, nippy, etc. My wife (who'd never had a puppy before) called me one day in tears - "It's like he's POSSESSED!!!" I was able to calm her down by pointing out all puppies go through this. To get him past this, I had to be very firm with him. Once he KNEW who was The Boss, he settled down A LOT, because there was order in the world, and he didn't have to be The Boss.

Many people who own small dogs don't do this and the dog ends up thinking they have to be The Boss. So, when they bark or snarl at other people, instead of saying, "NO!" in the command voice, the owners try to reassure them using the praising voice - which just reinforces the behavior. In fact Mrs. GeneJockey has a tendency to do this with our little dog, Dory, which I keep trying to break her of. She bought a bunch of puppy books, but I swear she never reads them, and tries to substitute HUMAN psychology for DOG psychology in dealing with Dory.

Fortunately, Dory is not one of those fearless terrier types, nor is she a quivering fear-aggressive Chihuahua type. Could be growing up with a Greyhound who's the size of a city bus by comparison!
We’ve had that discussion in our house. Needless to say, I’m the boss dawg because my wife can’t be. When Ella gets out of control, I hold her on my lap so I’m in a dominant position (thought to me by the trainer) until she submits. Now when she runs amuck, we ask is she wants to go upside down. Then she’ll look at us, and usually gives us that submissive look and calms herself.
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... pitbulls ...
RIP Lucy. Still miss that dumb dog sometimes.

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Originally Posted by Mojo31
8 hour print. This one though is too tall, so #2 is currently printing. It will be 2cm shorter. I’m trying to find a way to shorten the first one to make it work.

I really like the Taycan. I wish they did it with the 3L TT and shaved 1500 pounds from it. But, I’d take one in a heartbeat, just too expensive. I also like the current Panamera, and considered a 4S when I bought my current car in mid-19. It was about $25k over budget.

And, IMO, you have to get those wheels if you get a Taycan.
I have no idea what any of this means.
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The 3D printer took 8 hours to print that piece.

As for the Taycan, I’d like to be able to get the gas engine in it instead of the electric. It’s a big performer as is, but I’d like to see what it could do it it weighed 1500 pounds less.
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I'm not liking the weather, 30°, cloudy and windy, but I need to get out for at least a little ride. I went back on my calorie count a few days ago, so of course the wife decides to pick up a farmer's market double-crust caramel apple pie and bake Christmas cookies with the kids this weekend.
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I'm not liking the weather, 30°, cloudy and windy, but I need to get out for at least a little ride. I went back on my calorie count a few days ago, so of course the wife decides to pick up a farmer's market double-crust caramel apple pie and bake Christmas cookies with the kids this weekend.
Heading your way! Right after my sunny, high 50s, no wind ride that starts in one hour.
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Oh my friend’s Taycan is the Turbo model, in case anyone was wondering.
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Oh my friend’s Taycan is the Turbo model, in case anyone was wondering.
So sorry to read about your man’s crash and injury. How did it happen? How old is he?
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My running theory is that little dogs are ******g maniacs because owners let them get away with **** because they're small and they think that the impotent fury is somewhere between amusing and harmless; that all feeds in to a toilet bowl swirl of megalomania and you've eventually got a figurative rabid dog on your hands (damn it, I told myself I'd avoid P&R topics).

And while a lot of people are very dumb, most at least have the sense to understand that bigger dogs can be dangerous if completely unchecked, and will at least make some kind of effort to correct them.

IOW, it all comes back to the owners.
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Oh my friend’s Taycan is the Turbo model, in case anyone was wondering.
Fast enough to rip that bike right off the roof.
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