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Road Cycling “It is by riding a bicycle that you learn the contours of a country best, since you have to sweat up the hills and coast down them. Thus you remember them as they actually are, while in a motor car only a high hill impresses you, and you have no such accurate remembrance of country you have driven through as you gain by riding a bicycle.” -- Ernest Hemingway

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Old 03-05-21, 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by WhyFi
Tell that to my body weight.
We all get light...eventually.
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Originally Posted by MoAlpha
What goes up must come down.
Yeah but I am a wussy descender so I don't need little sprockets.
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Originally Posted by datlas
Yeah but I am a wussy descender so I don't need little sprockets.
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Originally Posted by MoAlpha
We all get light...eventually.
I have a feeling that my FTP is really going to suffer at that point, though my RHR will be lower than ever.
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[QUOTE=WhyFi;21953200]I wonder how many cassettes I'd need to buy to make that happen... I guess that I could take a look at the Shimano docs and see how many iterations of the 17t and 19t there are...


I'm not sure if this helps:
Custom 11-Speed Ultegra 12-28 Cassette?

When I started racing the team president told me that if you can't win with a 12x21 then you shouldn't be out there. I was about 220 pounds, tried some road races. I walked a LOT. Criteriums were way more fun.
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Originally Posted by MoAlpha
I have 11-28s on the commuting and dirt wheels. There are a few hills here where it's nice to have, especially when you're not in the mood for big effort.

I have a 14-26 (forget the brand, but nice quality) 10-spd which I got for the Peter Mooney which has a 53-39.
Yeah I have 52 or 53 on my road bikes, and starting off with 14 would be just fine by me. 14-15-16-17-18-20-22-25-28 would be the best 9-speed set.
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Originally Posted by datlas
Yeah but I am a wussy descender so I don't need little sprockets.
I am too, but I do use them. I find the system is steadier when I'm pedaling against some resistance.
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Originally Posted by whyfi
i have a feeling that my ftp is really going to suffer at that point, though my rhr will be lower than ever.
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Originally Posted by MoAlpha
I have 11-28s on the commuting and dirt wheels. There are a few hills here where it's nice to have, especially when you're not in the mood for big effort.

I have a 14-26 (forget the brand, but nice quality) 10-spd which I got for the Peter Mooney which has a 53-39.
I'm way too fat to limit myself to 28t max. 52/36 and 11-30 right now.

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Upper Midwest Addiction Meet-up in La Crosse, 2022.
We're planning to head to the TC as soon as practical to visit our friends. They're off Hennepin near lake of the isles (they used to be near Harriett).
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Looks like a part I worked on early last year is in space now.
This gold colored ring with all the slots in it:

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The Ritchey and Battaglin both have 53/39 cranks and 12-30 10sp cassettes Right up till this year, I was riding the Battaglin with 12-27, and the Ritchey with 8 speeds and 12-25, but I wasn't riding it much - hence the 10 speed conversion. I'd ride it later in the season when I had better legs, but I could handle the half mile climbs I do on my regular Sunday route without too much difficulty. Just a lot of asking

The Bianchi had an FSA Gossamer 50/34 crank which I replaced with a Centaur 50/34, and it's got a 12-27 10sp cassette. It WAS my Mountain Goat, till I got the Canyon. It's got 52/36 and an 11-34 11sp cassette. That 34t is nice to have. I used to grind up Old La Honda (3.1 mi. at 7.4%) at about 55-65 rpm on the Ritchey with the old set up, but now it's no problem spinning 80 rpm on the Canyon. I actually use the 11t cog on descents, not to go terribly fast, but because I find I'm more comfortable pushing a slow cadence between turns, instead of coming out of a turn flailing away like an eggbeater.

The Cannondale will be just like the Ritchey was, so I know I can manage it up the shortish climbs.
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Originally Posted by phrantic09
We're planning to head to the TC as soon as practical to visit our friends. They're off Hennepin near lake of the isles (they used to be near Harriett).
Spittin' distance. Bring/rent a bike.
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Originally Posted by genejockey
The Ritchey and Battaglin both have 53/39 cranks and 12-30 10sp cassettes Right up till this year, I was riding the Battaglin with 12-27, and the Ritchey with 8 speeds and 12-25, but I wasn't riding it much - hence the 10 speed conversion. I'd ride it later in the season when I had better legs, but I could handle the half mile climbs I do on my regular Sunday route without too much difficulty. Just a lot of asking

The Bianchi had an FSA Gossamer 50/34 crank which I replaced with a Centaur 50/34, and it's got a 12-27 10sp cassette. It WAS my Mountain Goat, till I got the Canyon. It's got 52/36 and an 11-34 11sp cassette. That 34t is nice to have. I used to grind up Old La Honda (3.1 mi. at 7.4%) at about 55-65 rpm on the Ritchey with the old set up, but now it's no problem spinning 80 rpm on the Canyon. I actually use the 11t cog on descents, not to go terribly fast, but because I find I'm more comfortable pushing a slow cadence between turns, instead of coming out of a turn flailing away like an eggbeater.
I rode with a group 2 weeks ago over the hills with 2 climbs. With the 34x29 low I stayed in front of or close to most of the others on the 9 mile climb. After a few miles descending there is a steeper climb of about 3 miles. Most of them were able to spin away from me in their 34x32 gears. I could still climb it, but had to grind a bit more than the modern bike riders of similar ability.
Of course, if that had been the A group of my old club I would have been dropped on the first climb like a hot rock at a hot rock dropping contest.
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Reel to reel content.

Bruno Mars and the artists he hangs out with, are amazing.


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Originally Posted by big john
I rode with a group 2 weeks ago over the hills with 2 climbs. With the 34x29 low I stayed in front of or close to most of the others on the 9 mile climb. After a few miles descending there is a steeper climb of about 3 miles. Most of them were able to spin away from me in their 34x32 gears. I could still climb it, but had to grind a bit more than the modern bike riders of similar ability.
Of course, if that had been the A group of my old club I would have been dropped on the first climb like a hot rock at a hot rock dropping contest.
When I rode with PenVelo 20 years ago, I did a couple rides with the 'Racers' group, but not one time did I manage to make it more than half way without getting dropped. The time I made it half way, I was thinking, "Yeah, I'm doing really well! Maybe this time I'll be able to stick with them the whole way!" and then we came to a short, but sharp hill and they rode away from me like I was standing still. No matches left. I think I'd been burning them constantly.
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Originally Posted by LAJ
Reel to reel content.

Bruno Mars and the artists he hangs out with, are amazing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adLGHcj_fmA&t=152s
Ha! They had some fun writing that one!
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Ha! They had some fun writing that one!
I think they have some fun no matter what they do
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Originally Posted by WhyFi
Spittin' distance. Bring/rent a bike.
If I can!
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Originally Posted by datlas
Word on the street is they wear much faster, but I don't know how much faster or if there has been any analysis on this. I am interested in knowing too. I have a mix of 105/Ultegra/DA cassettes on the pegboard of varying age, all 10 speed.
I got 4 seasons out of my Sram power dome Ti cassette. They are quite expensive.
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You know those mornings when you wake up thinking you've got to go to work but then realize that it's your day off and that wave of calm washes over you?

This morning was the opposite of that
So...just a normal day?....
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Originally Posted by WhyFi
Huh. I didn't even realize that there was an 11-25 option. Vs the 12-25, it looks like they take away the 18t in exchange for the 11t... Hmmm. I'm sure that I use the 18t a *lot* more than I'd ever use an 11t - hell, the 12t is the shiniest cog on the cassette - but I do get over 40 on occasion and gap between the 17t and 19t is pretty manageable within my preferred cadence range..

Oh hell - who am I kidding? It probably wouldn't move the needle much for me, either way. Now if there were a 12-28 available, that'd be a serious consideration.
You should also look at, Sunrace, they make some fairly lightweight cassettes quite a bit cheaper than d/a. You could buy 2 and mix-match to get what you wanted.
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Originally Posted by ls01
You should also look at, Sunrace, they make some fairly lightweight cassettes quite a bit cheaper than d/a. You could buy 2 and mix-match to get what you wanted.
I bought an SRAM 10sp 12-28 cassette. It was better than 12-25, but their cog choice left a big gap between the smaller cogs and the 3 largest, so I had the choice of grinding at <85 or spinning at >100 every time I hit that gap.
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You should also look at, Sunrace, they make some fairly lightweight cassettes quite a bit cheaper than d/a. You could buy 2 and mix-match to get what you wanted.
Sunrace cassettes are under appreciated. Very good bang-for-the-buck.
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Originally Posted by rjones28
Sunrace cassettes are under appreciated. Very good bang-for-the-buck.
Indeed.

I have a 10s 11-42 on my mountain bike and it works great.

Never used one of their road offerings though.
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