still convincing myself if its worth the cash or not. also, the guy i normally ride with isnt v fit and has an allergic reaction to gravity and its effect on upward travel. so, may do the 50 if he can be convinced if hes going to sit it out ill probably do the 100.

BTW, is anyone riding ourimbah this weekend that needs a 3rd wheel ? need to get up there and have a look before the start of the season up there as its been 6 months or so since ive ridden there. if anyone is going and doesnt mind me tagging along i wouldnt mind joining you

There's a few of us from the coast area going down for it, you're welcome to join our posse.

and I won't be riding Ourimbah this weekend, another time...

I suggest it may if it can increase ATP and you get an extra 2 reps out at you max, for a set lift. Going from 8 to 10 reps, must mean increased intensity. So, indirectly, you add muscle to compensate for the new intensity. This assumes the "creatine itself" does not assume all those benefits of intensity, ie. nothing has actually changed to the stress on the muscle, the creatine does it, and gives the benefit, and it is the same relative stress.

Ambiguous and poorly explained.

search "creatine" in the training forum, there'll be heaps of stuff on it.

Aww C'mon thunder. It'll take me years to unravel what you were trying to get at there! How am I supposed to be a naysayer if I've got nothing to argue against?

Spose at the end of the day it would seem that noone really knows for sure yet. It occurs naturally in your diet anyway. So until I see repeatable positive proof of benefit, and no evidence of adverse sidies I won't be paying $20 per kg for the stuff unless its in the form of a big juicy steak.

i said to the guys at the Vets that there should be a rule that guys can't win their first race unless it's A grade, but he said that guys like that get 'figured out', and everyone will think they're a prick for the rest of their time at the club.

U had a win yet Ozman? You must've had 4 or five races by now

nah .
grand total of 4 races. I still can't get my fat guts out of the corners quick enough

I reckon I'm kidding meself riding A grade vets at 91kg!!!

and I still haven't figured out how to warm up properly -- I never feel as good in a race as I do on Beach Rd

There's a big difference between racing and rolling along at a relatively constant pace on Beach Rd. That's where overall strength and fitness come into play: those who eat a steady diet of intervals will survive the constant surges the best.

As for warming up, I can't perform at my best in a crit without doing about an hour's worth of warm up. Half hour spinning along, then little hills for 15 mins to load up the legs, a couple of short sub-max efforts, then 10 mins rolling. Seems to do the trick for me.

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I think I'll go post a pic of it in Living Car Free...

yeah, the constant sprinting out of EVERY corner, lap after lap, just fkn kills me.

That sounds like the perfect warmup

Exy - I hope you got yours with the extra wide shiny alloys and the mega stereo in the back

Fark me Repat. That's ugly!

Went over the handlebars of a bike for the first time in my life yesterday. Breaking my over the bars cherry at 33 isn't probably the best way of doing it as it scared the living ****e out of me. As soon as I saw my front wheel go into the big farking hole some prick had dug in the middle of the track around a corner I thought "please don't break your neck, please don't break your neck". Spitting blood all the way home I thought I'd punched my spine through my throat. Went to the hospital and all is well thankfully. Just look even uglier than normal now.

How can you tell if you've bent your forks a bit? They still seem to go up and down alright. Hopefully 32mm forks take a bit more than that to bend?

They come with a 160watt stereo. Now I just need some 21 inch spinners and a few flat TV screens. You watch too much Pimp My Ride.

Saccy, your forks are fine. Learn how to crash though. I can tuck and roll with finesse, as I've done it thousands of times...

saccy, you poor bugger, it hurts when you get old ! Hole dug out of the track? You mean a hole hole, not an obstacle you are supposed to negotiate?

It would probably bend at the crown if anything, does it turn left and right OK?

Nah, I'm usually a fantastic crasher. Came from years of practice riding enduro bikes. Don't really know what happened. It was after doing 90 minutes of a local XC loop. Decided to go home a different way through thick trees that was a bit overgrown, that I hadn't been down in years. Combination of not paying attention and not expecting a hole to be there I guess. I was wondering why I didn't try and manual the front wheel over it, but I think I only worked out it was a hole to late. It had grass growing out of it so it'd been there for a fair while. Probably a nice little obstacle if you knew it was there, thanks climbo.

Bike seemed to ride home okay. I was paying more attention to myself than the bike. Everything looks fine though.

shoulda had the docs throw the fork in the x-ray machine when they did your melon

any scars?

Yeah, no amount of warning or reading/hearing about it could've prepared me for how hard it is.
Which Vets are you with? Have you ridden at METEC (Kilsyth)? 8 bloody corners!!

Southern Vets.

the whole reason I went there was becasue I thought Sandown had no slow corners!! It's much better that a short course, but there's still bloody corners, and a bit of hill out the back!!

Great course, though: no gutters, grass on each side on the road, a pit lane.....cool!!

sounds like I won't be going to METEC

They actually couldn't get a clear image of my spine when they tried to get an x-ray of it front on. They had a couple of gos and couple get anything. Must mean I'm spineless. *groan*

Yeah, got a nice lot of bark off from the right corner of my mouth around to the ear. It's only really deep near my mouth though. I was riding home poking at the would trying to see if I had any holes that went right through.

So I'm not having any luck on this new bike. 10 years on the old Trek since I had a stack on it. So far I've had 5 on this new thing and I'm still not going as fast as I used to on the Trek. These new bikes are overrated.

You blokes have gotta find a nice 500m hotdog course somewhere. Excellent interval training in those races. Good for setting new maxHR endurance records

Hey Sacc, that was you in that pic you posted a few weeks back, right?

what are those red tyres on your bike?

I think it's more my crappy cornering skills: if i'm near the back I'll lose at least 5 meters on the faster corners, then i'm off the saddle, sprinting as fast as I can for 100m

Also, the last race I did I had a newish Pro Race on the front, and I could hear it squeaking around each corner, even though I scuffed up the sides of the tread with some sandpaper. I thought it was slipping

Sure was. What a fine specimen I bet you all thought.

They were Michelin ProRace 1's. I got 4 of em cheap at the end of 04 from Probikekit and am on the last 2 now. Grip well if you keep riding em and don't let them get hard. Quality seems funny with them. 3 never punctured. 1 punctured quite often. All in all they were good though. Don;t know what the ProRace 2's are like.