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Old 01-10-06 | 10:14 PM
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1 Nathan O'Neill (Qld) Navigators 53.14.74
2 Luke Roberts (SA) CSC 2.59.23
3 Ben Day (Qld) 3.12.14
4 Russell Van Hout (SA) 3.16.35

wow, that confirms my assumption this was O'neils major objective of the season and Luke Roberts et al are in CSC commando camp, sailing instead of cycling, mode.

No way O'neil beats any of those riders by 3 minutes in an equal preparation scenario.

Jamieson, still not there...
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Old 01-10-06 | 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by climbo
he did !

Race 2 - January 11: U23 Men's Time Trial, 40 km
Results
Provisional
1 Shaun Higgerson (NSW)
2 Mark Jamieson (Tas)
3 Miles Olman (Qld)

I meant in the seniors, not second rung in the under 23's.

All the Euro's are recalibrating their seasons and are not in top shape, saying that, most of them are in Europe for atleast part of the season.
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Old 01-10-06 | 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by thunder
Anyone know why Mcgee was riding a Specialized in Brisbane crits last month.

I figure he got up too lat in Sydney and could not be bothered bike baggin his Lapierre or he had a problem in transit with it. Thus he borrowed the Specialized steed in Brisbane. What is the potential for a fragile athlete like Mcgee to do some structural damage in a crit with a bike that is fit in haste.

He was blocked in his new postion in the 20 km tour timetrial this year. And he often has back problems. Any expert opinions folks?
Yeah, like drop his seat 2cm and push it back a bit. I saw a couple of Vuelta stages recently and he looked friggin terrible.

Apparently he changed his position recently - he bloody needed to.
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Old 01-10-06 | 10:20 PM
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Hey, is it the 4th of July or something today? Our septic friends are all a bit 'rah rah rah' today in the road and road racing forums.
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Old 01-10-06 | 10:20 PM
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Just be sure to say Euro, not EURO.
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Old 01-10-06 | 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by thunder
I would have thought Jamieson would have snagged a podium. I think his tting has gone backwards since his stint in France, or it has not progressed in a linear frame for someone at that age. He did he best 4000ip time almost 2 years ago I think.

Yeah....Michael Ford is the new IP wunderkind. It'll be some other teenager with lungs like a racehorse next year.....
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Old 01-10-06 | 10:24 PM
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Originally Posted by thunder
1 Nathan O'Neill (Qld) Navigators 53.14.74
2 Luke Roberts (SA) CSC 2.59.23
3 Ben Day (Qld) 3.12.14
4 Russell Van Hout (SA) 3.16.35

wow, that confirms my assumption this was O'neils major objective of the season and Luke Roberts et al are in CSC commando camp, sailing instead of cycling, mode.

No way O'neil beats any of those riders by 3 minutes in an equal preparation scenario.

Jamieson, still not there...


Shoot!!! 3 minutes over 40km.

It was a 1 man race after the first check!
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Old 01-10-06 | 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Expatriate
Just be sure to say Euro, not EURO.
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Old 01-10-06 | 10:28 PM
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all of his TT wins have been big margins.... this one the biggest.... and he still has to prepare for the US season over "winter". Bloody brilliant effort.

2005
1 Nathan O'Neill (Qld) Toowoomba Cycling Club Inc./Navigators 47.41.98 (50.31 km/h)
2 Rory Sutherland (ACT) Canberra Cycling Club/Rabobank 1.37.38
3 Russell Van Hout (SA) Adelaide CC/Selle Italia 2.46.80

2004
1 Nathan O'Neill (Qld) Colavita-Bolla 51.08.45
2 Peter Milostic (NSW) 1.50.74
3 Luke Roberts (SA) ComNet 1.53.27
4 Mark Jamieson (Tas) U23 2.01.14
5 Ben Day (Qld) Palmans-Collstrop 2.16.54

2002
1 Nathan O'Neill (Qld) 50.24.50
2 Michael Rogers (ACT) 0.42.53
3 Ben Day (Qld) 2.12.20
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Yeah....Michael Ford is the new IP wunderkind. It'll be some other teenager with lungs like a racehorse next year.....
Leigh Howard might have a shot at that World Record of Michael Fords. The 3 k's is about in is striking distance.
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Old 01-10-06 | 10:38 PM
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Leigh Howard might have a shot at that World Record of Michael Fords. The 3 k's is about in is striking distance.

Hasn't he burst on the scene??? What a freak.....16 and built like Darryn Hill (maybe not quite....)
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Old 01-10-06 | 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by climbo
all of his TT wins have been big margins.... this one the biggest.... and he still has to prepare for the US season over "winter". Bloody brilliant effort.

2005
1 Nathan O'Neill (Qld) Toowoomba Cycling Club Inc./Navigators 47.41.98 (50.31 km/h)
2 Rory Sutherland (ACT) Canberra Cycling Club/Rabobank 1.37.38
3 Russell Van Hout (SA) Adelaide CC/Selle Italia 2.46.80
Now there is a name Cyclingnews and AusCycling has got some cheap Sudanese cleaner without IR protection to sweep under the carpet.

On Sunday in Docklands at the final bay crit, I got some heresay, little birdie's Chinese whispers that said the Rabocops like to give a vitamin injection, and maybe another injection. The second one purely saline solution only ofcourse . Actually the second one was an unknown. What was the drug Rory got caught with, something to do with pregnancy, but anecdotally for recovery. Like Hondo and formerly Garzelli, these riders are getting caught with obscure concoctions of drugs. But then again, the group of drugs for Rumsas'mother in law was quite exhaustive and would have done a apothecary proud.
All heresay ofcourse.
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Old 01-10-06 | 10:49 PM
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Hasn't he burst on the scene??? What a freak.....16 and built like Darryn Hill (maybe not quite....)
actually he is very big for a 16 yo. Big arms big torso, and big legs. And he wants to ride road

I remember Mcgee being closer to 80 kgs, than the 70 kgs he is now when he was 18, though not quite 80 kgs. So he can lose some weight probably.

In the support crit he was about two thirds of the way back in the pack on Sunday, after getting a fourth in the Friday crit. as riders dropped out, he slowly moved to the back of the field and was yoyoing in the last 5 riders for the last 15 minutes, and dropped off the back for the last 4 laps. Good performance for a 16 year old, but there were other 16 year olds that were in the field. that said, his summer focus must have been on the track carnivals, and he got 4th on Friday.

Walker won the Portarlington stage of the pro field when he was 16 though, albeit a different type of rider.
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Old 01-10-06 | 11:01 PM
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Originally Posted by thunder
Now there is a name Cyclingnews and AusCycling has got some cheap Sudanese cleaner without IR protection to sweep under the carpet.

On Sunday in Docklands at the final bay crit, I got some heresay, little birdie's Chinese whispers that said the Rabocops like to give a vitamin injection, and maybe another injection. The second one purely saline solution only ofcourse . Actually the second one was an unknown. What was the drug Rory got caught with, something to do with pregnancy, but anecdotally for recovery. Like Hondo and formerly Garzelli, these riders are getting caught with obscure concoctions of drugs. But then again, the group of drugs for Rumsas'mother in law was quite exhaustive and would have done a apothecary proud.
All heresay ofcourse.

Bike racing rumours are the best. I remeber talking with an Italian bloke once in Holland who was shocked I didn't use an IV after heavy training or racing. Bugger me....take it easy, Paolo!!
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Walker won the Portarlington stage of the pro field when he was 16 though, albeit a different type of rider.

Geelong Botanical Gardens, I think.

A super talent.
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Old 01-10-06 | 11:13 PM
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Geelong Botanical Gardens, I think.

A super talent.
91.3 VO2

Rabocop espoirs ... and Sutherland came out of there. The management should know what was going on with their riders. That might have been the birdie source, not the elder Rory, just saying

On the rumours thing, does anyone believe CSC's "values" propoganda. Team building, commando trainers, new age witch doctors, transvestite yoga teachers, and dog pilates?

Can they create results out of thin air. Sure Julich had talent, you don't come third in the tour without talent, even if it was 1998, and everyone had big pharma coming out their gills.

I know "Mr 60%" is an apocryphal Chinese whispers epithet, but there was not many who were not in the upper echelons then who would not have been getting a little love from the ampoule of EPO. So, it is entirely disingenuous to spout values for all his success.
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hee hee hee, Kathy Watt won the TT by 33s

https://www.cyclingnews.com/road/2006...esults/AORC061

shove THAT up the "system" and the cliques!!


I was always pissed off that the good old East Bentleigh boy, Rainsford was dumped by the system in the late 80s, just coz he got on the booze with Patterson
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Old 01-10-06 | 11:17 PM
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Originally Posted by thunder
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fark a duck.
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she's gunna be on SEN in a minute
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fark a duck.
watts at threshold: 6.7 per kg. within 0.2 of Ferrari's magical figure. And only 19. So a little more up his sleeve.

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Originally Posted by 531Aussie
she's gunna be on SEN in a minute


Stand by for possibly the most boring interview since:

-Lloydy was made captain of the bombers
-Brad Hodge scored his double ton
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see Kirsten is switching to track endurance for Beijing. He wants a ride in the 4000 teams pursuit.

Have you ever seen competition for a spot in a team.

I will rate them in order.

Mcgee
Brown *Barras or Bannan rate his start as the best in the world
Roberts *will only be 30
Lancaster
Jamieson
Ford
Renshaw
Dawson
Olman
Kirsten *might challenge for Browns spot on the starting position. I think he is the best 1km starter
Finning
Hutchison
Woolridge
Howard *will be 18, and Mcgee first rode at 18
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Stand by for possibly the most boring interview since:
-Lloydy was made captain of the bombers
-Brad Hodge scored his double ton
she didn't let us down: spoke slowly and ended every sentence with an upward inflexion
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Old 01-10-06 | 11:34 PM
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she didn't let us down: spoke slowly and ended every sentence with an upward inflexion

Nothing's changed in 15 years, then.
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Originally Posted by thunder
see Kirsten is switching to track endurance for Beijing. He wants a ride in the 4000 teams pursuit.

Have you ever seen competition for a spot in a team.

I will rate them in order.

Mcgee
Brown *Barras or Bannan rate his start as the best in the world
Roberts *will only be 30
Lancaster
Jamieson
Ford
Renshaw
Dawson
Olman
Kirsten *might challenge for Browns spot on the starting position. I think he is the best 1km starter
Finning
Hutchison
Woolridge
Howard *will be 18, and Mcgee first rode at 18

That's one deep talent pool. I would move Olman above probably Pete Dawson and Prince Harry.

I like the form Richard England is showing too....porbably not as gifted as everyone on this list, but is showing where hard training and lots of racing can get you. (Plus he's from my old club....)
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