Is that why we're winning everything?

I'm going with HDT on that one Thylo.

Sure it looks bad (and its probably a beat up anyway!), but it's not going to get better unless people come to fear the public scrutiny and shame.

Assume that there are drugs in sport in Oz. It would take a huge culture shift to get people to stop using them. Pressure to perform so that funding/sponsorship is continued, the weight of money making drugs freely available, and the spin doctoring that always promises that athletes can't perform at the top without product X means coaches and athletes alike are going to find it hard to resists the lure. Must keep winning, must keep winning....

Hey guys. Sorry to bring the subject back to bikes, but I'm wondering if any of you are lighting/battery experts?

I've got a cateye double halogen setup, with the brick (lead acid) battery.
Have any of you swapped out the battery for something lighter, and with a quicker charge time, and longer burn time?

See, that's why I'm an advocate of performance un-hancing drugs. Imagine a bunch of guys trying to ride off their trees. THATS something I'd pay to watch!

Can be done, but there are a coupla things to watch out for.

Alkaline batteries: Cell voltage 1.5V. Non rechargable. Capacity up to 2500mAH

Lithium batteries: Cell voltage 1.5V. Non rechargable. Capacity up to 3000mAH

NiCad batteries. Cell voltage is 1.2V and gets lower with age, as does capacity (memory effect). Self discharging. Bad for the environment.

NiMH cells: Cell voltage 1.2V. High capacity. Minimal memory effect. Self discharging. Good capcity to weight.

Li-Ion cells: Cell voltage 3.6V. High capacity. Minimal memory effect. Excellent to weight. High cost. Requires power management chipset. Individual cells and chipsets not available in Oz.

Best option is Li-Ion as they pack plenty of punch at about half the weight and size of NiMH, which is the only other real choice.

You have to match the voltage rating of the existing lead acid battery, so if it's 12 volts you'll need to build some sort of voltage regulator circuit if you use Li-Ion as your only option would be four cell (14.4V). There is no chipset or charger that I know of for a three cell combo (10.8V) Li-Ion

For simplicity go with NiMH. Chargers and cells are readily available from Jaycar, Dick Smith, etc. Get high capacity cells 3000mAH or higher. Don't try to get advice from the store tools, they wouldn't know resistor from a Van De Graaff generator

Netballers on E. I'd probably watch that.... over and over.

Road or MTB or both?
I use those crappy visionsticks for the MTB, not very good but didnt cost much ($300).
Had a night out at the local XC course with the rep from Niterider and got to use a set of what i think were Forestorms? HID jobbies which RRP around $1000.

Well, it was like riding in the middle of the day these things were so damn bright. Good for dazzling mates and attracting every bug onto their head when you've stopped.
I'd luv a set but until the lotto cheque comes in, I'll continue to bag anyone who uses them as a cheat and tell them their not really night riding until they've used my candles

Guess i should read the post

Climbo bought a HID lightset last year. Wonder if he'd sell it to me for $50 now that he's full time shark bait

Hey 62vette, what's the deal with your cuzzy bro's? Quality stuff!
https://www.theage.com.au/news/common...703480357.html

"swapped out": that's so American

Meh, you don't need lights. I rode half a lap of the Melbourne 12 hour enduro with no lights. It was my fastest lap, I kid you not.

You're right though, lights are INSANELY expensive, and I'm not looking forward to the end of daylight savings (although I should, because I'm farken unstopable at night).

Might end up swinging some Nightlightning lights from NZ. Nice blend of 'high tech' and 'garage'.

Roight, checked emails, checked out the dribble @ BF, heard the ch9 helicopter hovering around out the back just before... time to head orf to the mens MTB's.

Have fun Odin.

I liked the womens mtb at the sydney games, got to touch P Pezzo's bike pink seat.

lucky bugger....

Thanks for the help guys. Are we all ready to cheer Sid Taberlay to gold at 2?

Geoff Kahbush will be fastest by far. Sid to pick up the scraps. If chis Joegenward is racing he dbe a good choice as well as his form seems really good at the moment.

Women's Cross Country
Thu 23 | 01:40pm
1. Marie-Helene Premont (CAN) 1:55:04,
2. Rosara Rosara (NZL) 1:56:31,
3. Kiara Bisaro (CAN) 1:57:59,
4. Amy Hunt (ENG) 2:01:33,
5. Dellys Starr (AUS) 2:02:12,
6. Robyn Wong (NZL) 2:02:36,
7. Emma Colson (AUS) 2:06:07,
8. Sonia Foote (NZL) 2:09:32,
9. Myra Moller (COK) 2:11:33,
10. Ruth McGavigan (SCO) 2:13:47 at State Mountain Bike Course.

hey Ed, here's one for ya: what were all the bikes Greg LeMond raced on, and what was rebadged?

https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...2&page=1&pp=25

did you guys hear that Nathan O'Neil found God after his near fatal crash?

Crikey!!

Kabush is knowhere to be found. Is he a quick finisher?

OACDS, Whats the URL of that place in the UK that has cracking deals on tires and parts and stuff?

wasnt probikekit was it?

They were all rebadged, including the ones with 'Lemond' on the downtube! Strong aliance with ABG, so lots of Litespeeds in there, that's for sure.

really? Litespeeds in the late 80s? Crikey!!

I found beer