Twas a tad chilly at sparrows fart this morning down on Norton st. but good fun nevertheless. Even escaped the fireworks and flares with a full head of hair intact. Takes a bit of the sting off knowing it took the World Champs to knock us out. Well done Italy. Wouldn't want to be in Zidane's shoes for a while.

If you mean the Bicycling Australia sponsored one, then no - it is in Melbourne this year.

Maybe there should a group excursion of Sydney-based BFers.

well that doesnt help me! had to leave the last one a bit earlier than expected after some knuckle dragger decided Mrs HDT was a nice piece of ass (well, ill admit it, she is!) and decided to follow her around doing the not so inconspicuous perve making her quite uncomfortable.... oh well, next year!

HDT, that's an anecdote I wouldn't have expected to hear about a bike show...bummer.

Of course if Mrs HDT was made of carbon fibre then it would make more sense!

I'm enjoying todays lesson. Your weight distribution over the axles would be different though, wouldn't it? And therefore handling?
Hang on, I've still got a torch and a hacksaw. Want me to bang up some fancy triangles for ya?

Yeah, weight distribution between the wheels would be a tad different.

Some call it an excuse to get a new bike......others.......R&D!

Wattsy, what hub is it?

Freehubs for Shimano 8 & 9 speed will do 10 speed with a spacer added (comes with a 10sp cassette.) 10 speed specific hubs (like the Dura Ace wheels) will only do 10sp as they are too narrow for 9sp.

Mavic hubs need a spacer for 8sp & 9sp (comes with the hub) and for 10sp you need the Mavic spacer plus the Shimano spacer.

Correct me anyone if I am wrong.

Sounds right to me, including fact that 10 is narrower than 9

Fair enuf. My training bike is 75 STA and 72 HTA. very cruisey. Race bike is 74 + 74 and its a bit choppy on the open road but very nice on the smooth crit circuit pavement

As long as your contact points are in the same position, that should work. However, if it was me, I'd have the same geometry on both my training bike and my race bike. I don't really see the point in having to adapt each time you switch bikes.

For a Crit bike, I'd maybe raise the BB a tad and recommend a stiffer overall bike with less emphasis on comfort (ie: recommend Al or Sc over Steel or Ti), but that's about it. Actually, I would recommend steel but go for a beefy oversize tube selection and don't give a crap about weight.

A sweet steel frame and matching steel forks, and some killer aero wheels like Rolf prima Vigor SL's would make a real nice crit bike.

Yeah I think I've heard that 10spd hubs don't do 9spd cassettes as well, but could you swap the freehub completely?

On a related issue, I'm running 9speed dura ace wheels on the hack bike, got em cheap secondhand, they're well used but very light wheels and they've always been silent when freewheeling. Just recently they've not been taking up all the time i.e. you might stand on it from a standstill or coasting and get 250rpm of zero load. It's quite exciting
I get the feeling they've had some of the drive pawls removed (for weight?) and the question is do I attempt my first freehub overhaul- clean/lube or assume it's buggered and get a new freehub?

pisser

https://sydney.craigslist.org/rnr/178876690.html

I have three kids, one of whom is into that expensive sport of cycling, ergo no money. I have to make do with what my limited budget allows. Given that I spend about $300 every 2 months just keeping the mongrels on the road I guess it was only natural to buy neanderthal. I got what I got. Measurements translated pretty well, so there's virtually no adaptation required apart from the differences in handling and gearing.

As for raising the BB, well I'm in two minds about it. There's nothing like the thrill of dropping blokes off your wheel by clipping at >60kmh. Scares the bejeesus outta them. A bit harsh on the pedal tho.

Oh, I thought we were talking about your bikes.

Kids are a different proposition, of course. Make em work for it or get them on something cheap and bomber I guess. I hardly expect anyone in that position to pony up the 10-15k you'd need to sink into a specifically designed training/racing quiver.

But hey, what do I know about such things? I'm 34 and newly married but still think I'm 25, which comes as a shock when I attempt to keep up with 25 year olds! I can't fund my own cycling habit let alone someone elses.

I've just put the 9 speed cluster on the 10 speed hub. I used a spacer from an old 9 speed cluster and it fits perfectly. Went for a test ride up and down the street and it shifts perfectly as well. BTW, it's a Shimano hub/cluster.

The wheel had a 10 speed Dura Ace cluster and used a medium and small spacer to keep it tight.

My fixies got a low BB too. Always an adventure.

Anyone just see Malcolm Mclaren on Denton? That was Interesting.

nyuk nyuk nyuk nyaaarkk

wokka made a funny

yer, if only all those emo kids knew that the grand daddy of their music and the inventor of punk is a quaff slightly incoherant pom who talks like hes as camp as a row of tents!

in all seriousness was interesting though, hes had a massive impact on modern society, would have been good to see him talk un jet lagged.

On the bike this morning I've got a fairly cracking pace up and I go past this dude who's struggling to make 20kays up a small rise. He catches up with me a little later at a set of lights. Brief chat and we're off. Ahead is one of the more painful and dangerous little climbs, with cars chopping and changing all over the place, drivers getting aggro with each other and innocent cyclists.

The guy clearly wanted a ride partner for that section. I wanted to keep the pace up and complete my quota of suffering. So I left him in my wake to fend for himself.

So what should I have done: do the social thing and ride with him for a chat and risk getting tangled up in commuter hell, or stick to the training plan and let him sort out his own problems?

Yeah, I saw Denton last night. During the first 10 minutes I thought MMc was an amazing character, but then I felt a bit sad for him because he just seems so far removed and detached from everything.

Jock, IMHO i think in that situation you need to look after yourself. your riding to a training plan and its probably safer riding alone at a good clip than relaxing and adding danger to themix by not concentrating 100% on what your doing + adding in the variable on an unknown riding partner.

Yep, saw it. He is a strange cat, thats for sure... I liked the Kevin Spacey interview before him too.

wanna brush up on your soccer skills?

https://tonaz.altervista.org/zidane.html

You did the right thing...I rarely want to do the social thing at the moment cause I have a limited time to get all of my training in. I get up at 6.00am cause there's less people/packs to get caught up in. After October I might change things, but for now I'm not prepared to drag anyone elses b*tt around Beach Road.

How good is that!!!