The Aussie Thread- Part 4
#7776
Originally Posted by Expatriate
Small wonder you guys think we're all weird... https://saltlakecity.craigslist.org/zip/179389295.html
#7777
Phat but not too fat

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So Patty, was the lasagne nice?
#7778
Sarcopenia: Living Decay
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So HDT, is the fox in the hole? 
Tough ride today. Started out in freezing conditions in Maitland and finished with a 35km dash into a fargin gale. Went to Kooragang to do a local race only to find out it was a round of the Masters Cup today.
After brekky at Leo's it was into that goddamned headwind again. Slowed down to check on the welfare of a teary eyed girl who had missed her bus and was walking along the Pathetic Hwy in the middle of nowhere all by herself, and for a gal who picked a real bad day to have her "first ride in a long while". She looked tired from 1km back!! Never seen anyone with the tired wobbles so bad. She laid a kitten when I cruised up and sed gday, but stoicly opted to complete the last 5km of her ride without assistance. What a gal!
Sorry Kotter, was going to ring and wake you up but you would not have had fun on the ride to Maitland today. Was sheer hell. Sad thing is, I actually enjoyed it.

Tough ride today. Started out in freezing conditions in Maitland and finished with a 35km dash into a fargin gale. Went to Kooragang to do a local race only to find out it was a round of the Masters Cup today.
After brekky at Leo's it was into that goddamned headwind again. Slowed down to check on the welfare of a teary eyed girl who had missed her bus and was walking along the Pathetic Hwy in the middle of nowhere all by herself, and for a gal who picked a real bad day to have her "first ride in a long while". She looked tired from 1km back!! Never seen anyone with the tired wobbles so bad. She laid a kitten when I cruised up and sed gday, but stoicly opted to complete the last 5km of her ride without assistance. What a gal!
Sorry Kotter, was going to ring and wake you up but you would not have had fun on the ride to Maitland today. Was sheer hell. Sad thing is, I actually enjoyed it.
#7779
Industry Maven

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Originally Posted by Hitchy
ya gotta luv it when the seppo's don't perform up to expectations!.....the only real surprise is that some of these 'rednecks' know how to operate a 'puter...check this guy...
https://www.bikeforums.net/professional-cycling-fans/209448-stage-7-over-so-what-hell-kinda-stage.html
https://www.bikeforums.net/professional-cycling-fans/209448-stage-7-over-so-what-hell-kinda-stage.html
#7780
Cock au hoop
Joined: Apr 2006
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From: well it sure aint Kansas
Originally Posted by Wilchemy
There once was a plumber
Who did something dumber
Than riding at night without lights....
Left his tools on the road
And some thieving toad
Nicked the lot and will sell what they like!!

Who did something dumber
Than riding at night without lights....
Left his tools on the road
And some thieving toad
Nicked the lot and will sell what they like!!

Noice. I've emailed mine to column 8 in the hopes of a bit of community spirit.
Nevertheless, check your PM's
#7781
Originally Posted by jock
So HDT, is the fox in the hole? 
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#7782
Sarcopenia: Living Decay
Joined: May 2005
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Originally Posted by HDTVKSS
the red squal only squarks in spring.
#7783
Sarcopenia: Living Decay
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I can't believe that wasn't sensored
#7785
Aluminium Crusader :-)

Joined: Apr 2004
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From: Melbourne, Australia
I just found this old picture from 1993 of my ugly old Raleigh. It didn't stay this colour for very long 
Man, I thought I was a millionaire when I added the Chorus cranks and Record seatpost to the 600 stuff.

Man, I thought I was a millionaire when I added the Chorus cranks and Record seatpost to the 600 stuff.

#7787
fox's coverage wasnt till 9 this morning.. ( golf.... WTF wants to watch golf on TV?? ) so ill have to wait till tonight
as much as i enjoy riding a TT effort, watching one on TV was a bit of a snooze.... bad luck to Rogers, close but oh so far.
Landis cant take a trick either, blown tubes, illegal positions, cracked bars. but of course its a conspiracy isnt it
as much as i enjoy riding a TT effort, watching one on TV was a bit of a snooze.... bad luck to Rogers, close but oh so far.
Landis cant take a trick either, blown tubes, illegal positions, cracked bars. but of course its a conspiracy isnt it
#7788
Senior Member
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From: Melbourne, Australia
Bikes: Wilier, Alchemy, Merida MTB,
Originally Posted by 531Aussie
I just found this old picture from 1993 of my ugly old Raleigh......
#7789
Originally Posted by jock
Sorry Kotter, was going to ring and wake you up but you would not have had fun on the ride to Maitland today. Was sheer hell. Sad thing is, I actually enjoyed it.
Thats fine, I was never gonna ride roughly 40km into a strong westerly, would have been fairly quick back though.
#7790
Originally Posted by 531Aussie
I just found this old picture from 1993 of my ugly old Raleigh. It didn't stay this colour for very long 



did ya fix it?
#7791
Senior Member
Joined: Mar 2006
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From: In a parallel universe
Originally Posted by Wilchemy
Originally Posted by 531Aussie
I just found this old picture from 1993 of my ugly old Raleigh. It didn't stay this colour for very long 

#7792
Senior Member
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From: Melbourne, Australia
Bikes: Wilier, Alchemy, Merida MTB,
Originally Posted by matagi
I'm more concerned by the incredibly tasteful wallpaper. 

#7793
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Remind me not to post any pictures of me cycling in the 80's. Damn you Profile and Greg Lemond with your fluro yellow!
Quick change of topic. After watching Magnus Backstedt ride this year, I think my aversion to traditional road bikes in my size may be waning.
What's your preference? Option A or Option B? 7 degree slope vs 2 degree.
Quick change of topic. After watching Magnus Backstedt ride this year, I think my aversion to traditional road bikes in my size may be waning.
What's your preference? Option A or Option B? 7 degree slope vs 2 degree.
Last edited by Thylacine; 07-09-06 at 07:28 PM.
#7794
#7795
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Option B looks alright to me Thylo.
And old cycling photos are great.
I only really started riding for reasons other than transport early
90's but a pink bike with fluro yellow tri-bars and a fluro yellow helmet was okay back then ...
...apparently...
And old cycling photos are great.
I only really started riding for reasons other than transport early 90's but a pink bike with fluro yellow tri-bars and a fluro yellow helmet was okay back then ...
...apparently...
#7796
Senior Member
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 211
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From: Hobart, Tasmania, Australia
Bikes: '06 Trek Madone SL 5.2 / '04 Trek 1000
Originally Posted by Thylacine
Remind me not to post any pictures of me cycling in the 80's. Damn you Profile and Greg Lemond with your fluro yellow!
Quick change of topic. After watching Magnus Backstedt ride this year, I think my aversion to traditional road bikes in my size may be waning.
What's your preference? Option A or Option B? 7 degree slope vs 2 degree.
Quick change of topic. After watching Magnus Backstedt ride this year, I think my aversion to traditional road bikes in my size may be waning.
What's your preference? Option A or Option B? 7 degree slope vs 2 degree.
#7797
Industry Maven

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Bikes: Thylacines...only Thylacines.
You're supposed to say 'A'
#7798
Sarcopenia: Living Decay
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Well I like A Thylo.
I'd prolly get more aggressive with it tho and change the head and seat tube angles from 72 to 74 or 75, and shorten the seat stays to get a really tight little rear traingle. Fast and twitchy!
[Edit] and before you go thinking I'm mad shortening the seat stays, the bottom of the top tube would almost touch the top of the downtube on my size frame so they'd have to be shorter for me anyways
I'd prolly get more aggressive with it tho and change the head and seat tube angles from 72 to 74 or 75, and shorten the seat stays to get a really tight little rear traingle. Fast and twitchy!
[Edit] and before you go thinking I'm mad shortening the seat stays, the bottom of the top tube would almost touch the top of the downtube on my size frame so they'd have to be shorter for me anyways
#7799
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I'm hoping that's sarcasm, coz that sounds awful. 
Tell ya a story. About 8 years ago I used to have a stunningly beautiful bike - A Schwinn Paramount Titanium. It was a gorgeous bike - candy crimson in the front and brushed Ti in the rear. The ride feel of that bike was really nice - like steel except better
I got it for a song becasue I was doing some work for Schwinn Japan at the time and managed to do a contra deal.
However, it handled like poo. It had a 74.5 degree head angle and a 72.5 degree seat angle and short stays. I could never get comfortable on it. And I tried too. Put in well over 3000kms on it and just didn't like it. Felt like I was more 'on' the bike rather than 'in' the bike, and the faster you went the worse it got.
So I took a hiatus from the road until I decided to do my Tephra (The orange one in the gallery.) Did lots of homework about geomtery and fit, and went and got fitted up by Kennedy. He got me fitted and I took his suggestions about geometry, took what I thought was valid and discarded the rest and combined that with what I had learned from my independant research.
So what i ended up with is a bike like no other. 73 degree head, 71.5 degree seat. 425mm stays. 605 top tube. No other off-the-peg bike comes close, and it handles really nicely. The faster you go, the better it gets.
Now, for my next bike I'm taking what I've learned from that and modifying it slightly, as well as trying a few different things to see how that affects handling.
- Going from 73 degree head angle to 72.5
- Going from 48mm rake fork to 50mm
- Stays from 425 to 415
- Top tube from 605 to 595, stem from 120 to 130.
I think those changes will make for better slower speed handling without changing it's high speed characteristics. I'm also keen to see how this steering geometry compares to previous and how a slightly more rearward weight bias effects handling.
So basically, you'll never see me on anything with any angles approaching 74-75 degrees. Maybe a track bike if I ever built one, but never on the road.
Being 6ft 3in and 95kgs throws some factors into the mix that you just don't get when you're 5ft 10 and 70kg.
Or shorter

Tell ya a story. About 8 years ago I used to have a stunningly beautiful bike - A Schwinn Paramount Titanium. It was a gorgeous bike - candy crimson in the front and brushed Ti in the rear. The ride feel of that bike was really nice - like steel except better
I got it for a song becasue I was doing some work for Schwinn Japan at the time and managed to do a contra deal.However, it handled like poo. It had a 74.5 degree head angle and a 72.5 degree seat angle and short stays. I could never get comfortable on it. And I tried too. Put in well over 3000kms on it and just didn't like it. Felt like I was more 'on' the bike rather than 'in' the bike, and the faster you went the worse it got.
So I took a hiatus from the road until I decided to do my Tephra (The orange one in the gallery.) Did lots of homework about geomtery and fit, and went and got fitted up by Kennedy. He got me fitted and I took his suggestions about geometry, took what I thought was valid and discarded the rest and combined that with what I had learned from my independant research.
So what i ended up with is a bike like no other. 73 degree head, 71.5 degree seat. 425mm stays. 605 top tube. No other off-the-peg bike comes close, and it handles really nicely. The faster you go, the better it gets.
Now, for my next bike I'm taking what I've learned from that and modifying it slightly, as well as trying a few different things to see how that affects handling.
- Going from 73 degree head angle to 72.5
- Going from 48mm rake fork to 50mm
- Stays from 425 to 415
- Top tube from 605 to 595, stem from 120 to 130.
I think those changes will make for better slower speed handling without changing it's high speed characteristics. I'm also keen to see how this steering geometry compares to previous and how a slightly more rearward weight bias effects handling.
So basically, you'll never see me on anything with any angles approaching 74-75 degrees. Maybe a track bike if I ever built one, but never on the road.
Being 6ft 3in and 95kgs throws some factors into the mix that you just don't get when you're 5ft 10 and 70kg.
Or shorter
Last edited by Thylacine; 07-09-06 at 08:56 PM.
#7800
Phat but not too fat

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From: Bay of Plenty
Bikes: Kona Zing & Conder Cone
I vote for B



