The Aussie Thread- Part 4
#5276
Ochayethenoo
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Bikes: Lemond MJ Classic, Klein Palomino, Felt TK2 Track, Daccordi vintage
How was the CCCC RR?
How was the Dirtworks (heard the course was *****)
Anyone else out there?
How was the Dirtworks (heard the course was *****)
Anyone else out there?
#5277
Thor's dad
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Bikes: 2006 Trek 5200, Avanti Corsa Pro, Giant Yukon, Ricardo Cro-Mo, 1992 Mongoose pro-comp, 1980 DiamondBack senior pro, 1980 Quicksilver... half a dozen other BMX bikes in various stages of completion.
Originally Posted by 531Aussie
eh, wind is good coz it sorts out the wheel-suckers 
Did you race B grade?
What was the turn-out like -- were all the big guns there?
Did the wind break up the field?

Did you race B grade?
What was the turn-out like -- were all the big guns there?
Did the wind break up the field?
We lapped just about all of the dropped C graders which surprised me cos I some of 'em usually place really well. All but one of the C grade guns were there, but only 2 finished in front of me (I was 6th) - the other 3 were Southerners.
That wind though!! We were going 50+km/h away from it and around 22km/h into it and the direction meant one straight with and 2 straights against it .
#5278
Thor's dad
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From: Oz
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Eastern, Southern and CCCC were there.
#5279
Sarcopenia: Living Decay
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Originally Posted by Odin
Eastern, Southern and CCCC were there.
#5280
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Well done on yet another excellent result Odin. You'll make A grade next crit season if you keep up the excellent performances.
#5281
Thor's dad
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Originally Posted by jock
For our regular players in NSW that's Carnegie Caulfield CC, not Central Coast CC 

Originally Posted by jock
Well done on yet another excellent result Odin. You'll make A grade next crit season if you keep up the excellent performances. 

How's the mending going?
#5282
the real CCCC road race was OK. A grade went faster again this week. How about some Master RR reports? Who won, who lost? Who went? 
CCCC WINTER ROAD SEASON 2006 RACE #: 3
6/05/2006 Riders Total: 54
Place Name Club Time Kms Avg Spd
km/h
A GRADE 15 Starters
1 Phil Thuaux CCCC 1:11:23 50 42.0
2 Dale Scarfe CCCC "
3 Cameron Peterson Peloton "
4 Robert Hodgson North Sydney "
B GRADE 8 Starters
1 Peter Griffin CCCC 1:20:02 50 37.5
2 Gareth Thomas North Sydney "
3 Peter Wickham CCCC "
4 Ray Van Schie CCCC 1:24:09
C GRADE 19 Starters
1 James Tan Waratah Vets 1:24:26 50 35.5
2 Ross Clague CCCC 1:24:32
3 Chris Sellars Manly Warr 1:24:56
4 Chris Chapman CCCC "
D GRADE 7 Starters
1 Brad Dillon Peloton 1:27:58 50 34.1
2 Paul McDonald CCCC 1:28:03
3 Daryl Telfer CCCC 1:32:51
4 Rob Russell CCCC 1:34:00
E GRADE 5 Starters
1 Jacyn Mellish CCCC 0:44:03 25 34.1
2 Mark Downes CCCC 0:47:08
3 Sue Jordan Kooragang 0:47:13
4 David Mellish CCCC 0:51:30

CCCC WINTER ROAD SEASON 2006 RACE #: 3
6/05/2006 Riders Total: 54
Place Name Club Time Kms Avg Spd
km/h
A GRADE 15 Starters
1 Phil Thuaux CCCC 1:11:23 50 42.0
2 Dale Scarfe CCCC "
3 Cameron Peterson Peloton "
4 Robert Hodgson North Sydney "
B GRADE 8 Starters
1 Peter Griffin CCCC 1:20:02 50 37.5
2 Gareth Thomas North Sydney "
3 Peter Wickham CCCC "
4 Ray Van Schie CCCC 1:24:09
C GRADE 19 Starters
1 James Tan Waratah Vets 1:24:26 50 35.5
2 Ross Clague CCCC 1:24:32
3 Chris Sellars Manly Warr 1:24:56
4 Chris Chapman CCCC "
D GRADE 7 Starters
1 Brad Dillon Peloton 1:27:58 50 34.1
2 Paul McDonald CCCC 1:28:03
3 Daryl Telfer CCCC 1:32:51
4 Rob Russell CCCC 1:34:00
E GRADE 5 Starters
1 Jacyn Mellish CCCC 0:44:03 25 34.1
2 Mark Downes CCCC 0:47:08
3 Sue Jordan Kooragang 0:47:13
4 David Mellish CCCC 0:51:30
#5284
#5286
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#5287
400,000 kms+ and still kickin' 
So, the big ride thing in Vicco, me and my brother-in-law convinced each other to do it. He went last year and said the 210km anti-clockwise route is the better one, I think that is Route B so it looks like I'll be down there for it.
Anyone other takers? I need someone large to draft

So, the big ride thing in Vicco, me and my brother-in-law convinced each other to do it. He went last year and said the 210km anti-clockwise route is the better one, I think that is Route B so it looks like I'll be down there for it.
Anyone other takers? I need someone large to draft
#5288
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From: In a parallel universe
Originally Posted by HDTVKSS
why? so i can experience the joy of break down on a more frequent basis? 

#5289
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From: Melbourne, Australia
Bikes: Wilier, Alchemy, Merida MTB,
Go Robbie McEwan! Wins stage 2 in the Giro. 10th place for Brownie too.
1 Robbie Mcewen (Aus) Davitamon-Lotto 4.51.40 (41.14 km/h)
2 Olaf Pollack (Ger) T-Mobile Team
3 Paolo Bettini (Ita) Quick Step-Innergetic
4 Alessandro Petacchi (Ita) Team Milram
5 Leonardo Duque (Col) Cofidis, le Credit par Telephone
6 Tomas Vaitkus (Ltu) AG2R Prevoyance
7 Alberto Loddo (Ita) Selle Italia-Serramenti Diquigiovanni
8 Koldo Fernandez (Spa) Euskaltel-Euskadi
9 Axel Maximiliano Richeze (Arg) Ceramica Panaria-Navigare
10 Graeme Brown (Aus) Rabobank
1 Robbie Mcewen (Aus) Davitamon-Lotto 4.51.40 (41.14 km/h)
2 Olaf Pollack (Ger) T-Mobile Team
3 Paolo Bettini (Ita) Quick Step-Innergetic
4 Alessandro Petacchi (Ita) Team Milram
5 Leonardo Duque (Col) Cofidis, le Credit par Telephone
6 Tomas Vaitkus (Ltu) AG2R Prevoyance
7 Alberto Loddo (Ita) Selle Italia-Serramenti Diquigiovanni
8 Koldo Fernandez (Spa) Euskaltel-Euskadi
9 Axel Maximiliano Richeze (Arg) Ceramica Panaria-Navigare
10 Graeme Brown (Aus) Rabobank
#5290
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From: Bathurst oz
Originally Posted by pshaw
LOL What is your major malfunction private pile? LOL
FWIW, no dirtworks for me, should have seen sense a while ago but wife recovering from surgery, and brand new baby means it's easy to make the right decision
Oh, well always next year. Anyone know a rider who missed out on entry?
FWIW, no dirtworks for me, should have seen sense a while ago but wife recovering from surgery, and brand new baby means it's easy to make the right decision
Oh, well always next year. Anyone know a rider who missed out on entry?
As for me, well thank gawd but I made it. Reached the half way hut feeling great at about 2:40 in so I was doing a good pace. My first mistake (okay going a bit to hard without enough training probably was) was stopping there to refill my camelbak (I ran out of water at the end of the race so lucky I stopped). Got back on the bike and my left hammy cramped up straight away. Fought the bloody thing for the entire rest of the race. Still felt like I had more to give energy wise, but anytime I tried to push on it'd be cramp city. Riding up hills was an annoying juggling act of actually getting up them, and relaxing enough to keep the cramps away. Flats were okay, and I was as fast as anyone down the hills.
Course was completely farked. First half was a little bit of sand, and a ****load of rocks. I think I broke my arse. Second half was a stupid big hill we had to carry our bikes up, then just sand, sand, sand. I've never ridden on so much sand in my life. On the last big downhill, theyd graded the thing before the race and by the time I got through there it was just 6 inch deep sandy ****. Bloody hair raising hooting down the hill at a gazillion miles and hour thought this rutted stuff, jumping the drainage banks and praying to jaysus that when I landed I wouldn't dig in and smash myself to bits.
If I look at my heart rate graph and compare it to the Alpine Classic where I bombed out, I actually went a lot harder in this. Ride times were almost the same but average heart rate was 150 compared to alpines 137. While I was doing it I was telling myself I'd never ride another bike again. A day later I'm pleased I did it and looking forward to doing it again.
#5291
Phat but not too fat

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Good work Saccy. Riding through cramp is a mission, but satisfying to finish despite it.
#5292
Ochayethenoo
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Well done saccy, I heard the course was a bit naff, Sounds like the Fling was way better!
Hows the drivetrain? nice and grindy?
Hows the drivetrain? nice and grindy?
#5293
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From: Bathurst oz
Oh, btw, while thinking about my sore arse. I'd love to know who were the idiots who thought making hardtails out of aluminium was a good idea. They need their heads kicked. It just doesn't make sense. They put flash forks on the things but you can really use them because you're getting kicked like a mule from the rear end. It's unbalanced.
My old cromo rigid Trek had a cromo fork that beat me up, but the rear end was beautifully compliant. You could feel it flexing on the big hits and the little hits never seemed to be an issue. It would make much more sense to have that nice compliant rear end of my trek mated to a good fork.
Combine the rear end of my old trek with the front end of my Giant and it'd be a beautiful bike. So what if it was even a kg heavier? On that ride yesterday, weight wasn't a factor, but getting beaten up certainly was. Can't wait to bust this alu POS so I get move the bit's over onto some cromo goodness.
My old cromo rigid Trek had a cromo fork that beat me up, but the rear end was beautifully compliant. You could feel it flexing on the big hits and the little hits never seemed to be an issue. It would make much more sense to have that nice compliant rear end of my trek mated to a good fork.
Combine the rear end of my old trek with the front end of my Giant and it'd be a beautiful bike. So what if it was even a kg heavier? On that ride yesterday, weight wasn't a factor, but getting beaten up certainly was. Can't wait to bust this alu POS so I get move the bit's over onto some cromo goodness.
#5295
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From: Bathurst oz
Thanks fellas. Yeah, the cramps were just frustrating. I'm prone to them though so if I'm going to keep up with this gig then I'll need to look into the science of them. Took a heap of magnesium tablets and popped them like tic tacs but they didn't do any good. Maybe getting fit might work? 
As for my drivetrain, after about 20km it resembled a buzz saw. Damn, it sounded bad. I think it's lifespan might have been dramatically reduced. Is there any point lubing thigns up on occasion during events like that? And actually, during the race, people who I was riding with were saying exactly what you said, that the fling course was way better.
BTW, are Mavic XM117 rims craphouse? At the start of last week they'd loosened off so I got the LBS to fix it. Only rode probably 20km after that. Then during the race they loosened off again. Ended up tightening them twice and they still loosened off again so I just rode with the things and hopped I got to the end. Luckily I made it.

As for my drivetrain, after about 20km it resembled a buzz saw. Damn, it sounded bad. I think it's lifespan might have been dramatically reduced. Is there any point lubing thigns up on occasion during events like that? And actually, during the race, people who I was riding with were saying exactly what you said, that the fling course was way better.
BTW, are Mavic XM117 rims craphouse? At the start of last week they'd loosened off so I got the LBS to fix it. Only rode probably 20km after that. Then during the race they loosened off again. Ended up tightening them twice and they still loosened off again so I just rode with the things and hopped I got to the end. Luckily I made it.
#5296
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From: Bathurst oz
Originally Posted by climbo
hee hee, steel MUST be real saccy. God job for getting it done in those conditions !!
#5297
if the Fling course was better, i can imagine this one was ****.
The Fling could also be a lot better if you ask me, or maybe I just hate fire roads and other people don't.
The Fling could also be a lot better if you ask me, or maybe I just hate fire roads and other people don't.
#5298
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For dealing with cramp on the ride magnesium tabs won't act fast enough, you need quinine tablets (maybe a bottle of gin & tonic) or cramp stop which I have found effective.
#5299
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From: Bathurst oz
Yeah, I was riding with people who'd done parts of the course before, but even they were biatchign about the course this year. You wouldn't imagine it would have been any more rocky, although even the full suspension people were saying they were getting beaten up. I think maybe just all the sand and almost jacknifing every 100 meters was the most anoying bit. But it's all there to test us which is what it should be all about. I'd probably prefer riding this course than nicely groomed firetrails. Just give me a FS bike next time.
#5300
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From: Bathurst oz
Originally Posted by 62vette
For dealing with cramp on the ride magnesium tabs won't act fast enough, you need quinine tablets (maybe a bottle of gin & tonic) or cramp stop which I have found effective.
BTW, gin & tonic???



