But are we voting for the contestant we want to expell from the island, or the one to stay?

nope, would make a loverly crit bike i reckon

whats ze difference?
Launch into an essay about frame geometry for me thylo

I'd rather wrap my mitts around a B than an A.

Also please post all available photos of oneself in you 80's ski gear. Yes those ones with the fluoro headband, that kickarse jumpsuit, the mirrored glasses and THAT hairdo.

Replacement tools list submitted for pricing, only three pages long. Open wide, this won't hurt a bit.

Bwahahaha...p*sser!

Damn!! Hopefully Carma will catch up with the B*st*rds.

A reminds me of ( dare i say it ) the Giant geometry, quite agressive. Me likie.

Option B is similar to my Lemond in looks so has that been there, done that got the T shirt to prove it feel about it.

Is that a car with Mrs BBW behind the wheel?

Well, the only difference between the two is a 5 degree slope to the top tube, and the only reason is looks.

Does that count as an 'essay'?

Now doesn't that just look like a caged cat? Nervous as hell too. Just like you described.

Those angles are messing with my mind. Tell me again how you sprint on a friggin lounge chair? 605 top? WTF?

I'm shorter. Think Robbie sized midget (only fatter)

And a laser sight on the front

Jock's been beating people up again!

Damn, the link didn't work. https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...=209426&page=2

No, I did not take the free lasagne. People here are freakin' weird. But not all of them. No Sunday alcohol sales!

On geometry - my 1990-ish Basso was the twitchiest, scariest ride ever. Super steep angles and unstable at any speed.

How do I make my 9 speed cluster ift onto a 10 speed hub? I'm assuming I put a spacer ring on the inside of the hub near the spokes. Is it as simple as this or do I need to get the hack saw out and start cutting stuff?

I should stop before someone gets hurt

im being serious. I think ill try the pm function.
Pyrnees tomorrow night, I cant wait, go Cadel. I cant wait for the first person to be in a devil suit running up the mountain chasing the riders.
I cant wait for the basque spectators crushing the riders at the finish line.

I wanna see robbie pull a wheelie at the end of the stage.

use Campagnolo

Forza Italia !!

You're not being very helpful!

correct, hubs / new wheels nrmally come with said spacer, which i believe is the " thin " one.... at least it was with my Mavics.

I hope Thylo's not working up a quote based on that diagram

Well, I'd do a 73 HTA with a 43mm rake for you. No reason to go any steeper.

605mm top tube? Of course! I'm 6ft 3ins (193cm), Jock.

Most stock bikes in my size are 72-73 degree STA, so to get in the right position on them I'd need a setback post, but they're sucky. I can get pretty much exactly the same position on a bike with a 585 top tube and a 72.4 degree seat angle. So....

A) 585 top tube, 72.4 STA, 130mm stem, setback post
B) 595 top tube, 71.5 STA, 130mm stem, straight post
C) 605 top tube, 71.5 STA, 120mm stem, straight post

All three of the above bikes are exactly the same. My butt, hands and pedals are in exactly the same pozzie.

That's why you can't just look at one number and assume how a bike will ride and handle, because it's all totally meaningless unless you look at the big picture.

Thankfully there's idiots like me to do that.

I say Option B and so does hubby - his comment, he prefers the traditional frame look as opposed to the compact look. I just think B looks more balanced aesthetically

Look out, that would be some weapon. Unfortunately she hasn't been invented yet.

Does anyone know if the bike show will be on at homebush again this year?