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climbo 01-10-06 09:08 PM

Race 3 - January 11: Elite Men's Time Trial, 40 km
Results
Unofficial
1 Nathan O'Neill (Qld) Navigators
2 Luke Roberts (SA) CSC
3 Ben Day (Qld)

climbo 01-10-06 09:08 PM

Race 1 - January 11: Elite Women's Time Trial, 27 km
Results
1 Kathy Watt (Vic) 40.23.82
2 Sara Carrigan (Qld) 0.32.75
3 Natalie Bates (NSW) 0.41.29
4 Olivia Gollan (NSW) 1.56.08
5 Oenone Wood (ACT) 2.18.89
6 Amanda Spratt (NSW) 2.50.01

ed073 01-10-06 09:12 PM


Originally Posted by climbo
Race 3 - January 11: Elite Men's Time Trial, 40 km
Results
Unofficial
1 Nathan O'Neill (Qld) Navigators
2 Luke Roberts (SA) CSC
3 Ben Day (Qld)


Dammit...I was close!!


What are the time gaps?

climbo 01-10-06 09:18 PM

none listed yet, have a guess.

531Aussie 01-10-06 09:21 PM

why hasn't a monster like O'Neill done better in mass start races?

ed073 01-10-06 09:24 PM


Originally Posted by climbo
none listed yet, have a guess.


less than 15 seconds

ed073 01-10-06 09:26 PM


Originally Posted by 531Aussie
why hasn't a monster like O'Neill done better in mass start races?

Dunno....maybe he's the Aussie Chris Boardman?

I still remember him telling the AIS to jam it as their training methods weren't helping.....so he went off, found his own sponsors and trained himself (and got anorexia in the process). Gutsy move in the cliquey world of Aussie elite cycling.

531Aussie 01-10-06 09:29 PM


Originally Posted by ed073
and got anorexia in the process.

wow!! Didn't know that.
He must've really struggled then when he had his injuries.

thunder 01-10-06 09:33 PM

in the Vuelta on '01 O'Neil was in the top 10 in both tt's. I think the highest was 6th.

ed073 01-10-06 09:34 PM


Originally Posted by 531Aussie
wow!! Didn't know that.
He must've really struggled then when he had his injuries.



Yeah....the details are hazy, but I think he got really into weighing food, proteins/carbs/fats etc like a bodybuilder and he went a bit too far.

Training 1100km a week can't be sustained on skinless chicken breast and steamed veg.

thunder 01-10-06 09:38 PM


Originally Posted by ed073
Dunno....maybe he's the Aussie Chris Boardman?

I still remember him telling the AIS to jam it as their training methods weren't helping.....so he went off, found his own sponsors and trained himself (and got anorexia in the process). Gutsy move in the cliquey world of Aussie elite cycling.

More Peschel or Rich than Boardman. He can climb but struggles against the climbers to defend.

See Rich, huge physique, O'neill is cut from similar cloth. Maybe he could have made a name fore himself in a leadout train. Not the last man off, but one of the engines like Rich in the saeco express for Cipollini.

531Aussie 01-10-06 09:40 PM


Originally Posted by thunder
in the.....

I assume that was you who started the Tomilaris poll on the SBS forum? :p

http://www8.sbs.com.au/sbsforum/viewtopic.php?t=9252


Also, is there a lot of Aussies on the Daily Peloton forum? Here seems to be a bit of local racing discussion
http://dailypelotonforums.com/ibb/

pshaw 01-10-06 09:40 PM


Originally Posted by climbo
Rugby time, I'm planning on going. Any takers?

Event:
HSBC Waratahs vs Auckland Blues
Central Coast Stadium
Sat 28 Jan 2006 7:30pm

$25

yep im in, will check with Niqs.

ed073 01-10-06 09:46 PM


Originally Posted by thunder
More Peschel or Rich than Boardman. He can climb but struggles against the climbers to defend.

See Rich, huge physique, O'neill is cut from similar cloth


Michael Rich is certianly stamped from that East German cookie-cutter for athletes....

BANG! One swimmer....

BANG! One nordic skier....

BANG! One cyclist...

531Aussie 01-10-06 09:48 PM


Originally Posted by ed073
Training 1100km a week can't be sustained on skinless chicken breast and steamed veg.

speaking of big miles, who was the Aussie rider you said reckons he needs at least one big ride a week (150+km) to get any form? Roberts? Wilson? Dunno

thunder 01-10-06 09:50 PM


Originally Posted by 531Aussie
I assume that was you who started the Tomilaris poll on the SBS forum? :p

http://www8.sbs.com.au/sbsforum/viewtopic.php?t=9252


Also, is there a lot of Aussies on the Daily Peloton forum? Here seems to be a bit of local racing discussion
http://dailypelotonforums.com/ibb/

Registered User hahaha, you will get in trouble there, alot of Tomalaris loyals and sycophants, I don't/can't understand it...

The dailypeloton has some good discussions occasionally, Mapeifan and Smug are two posters that rival Ed for knowledge. Good forum, I am the resident smartarse. I don't think anyone takes me seriously. :D

see Is Simoni a Dutch sea restraining wall?

ed073 01-10-06 09:50 PM


Originally Posted by 531Aussie
speaking of big miles, who was the Aussie rider you said reckons he needs at least one big ride a week (150+km) to get any form?


My memory is shrinking at the same rate my gut is expanding.....can't recall.

Crowey did tell me once on a hurt session out behind Cockatoo that I should be doing a 200km ride at LEAST twice a week......


Err.....

ed073 01-10-06 09:53 PM


Originally Posted by thunder
Mapeifan and Smug are two posters that rival Ed for knowledge.


Shouldn't be too hard....

531Aussie 01-10-06 09:53 PM


Originally Posted by thunder
Registered User hahaha, you will get in trouble there, alot of Tomalaris loyals and sycophants, I don't/can't understand it...

The dailypeloton has some good discussions occasionally, Mapeifan and Smug are two posters that rival Ed for knowledge. Good forum, I am the resident smartarse. I don't think anyone takes me seriously. :D

see Is Simoni a Dutch sea restraining wall?

HA! :)

Maybe the SBSophiles are just so grateful for a cycling show that they give Tommo credit for getting it up

thunder 01-10-06 09:53 PM


Originally Posted by 531Aussie
I assume that was you who started the Tomilaris poll on the SBS forum? :p

http://www8.sbs.com.au/sbsforum/viewtopic.php?t=9252


Also, is there a lot of Aussies on the Daily Peloton forum? Here seems to be a bit of local racing discussion
http://dailypelotonforums.com/ibb/

yeah, about one dozen Aussies on the forum, but only about 3 regular posters. We could do with some more. Especially ones with Ed's knowledge ;)

531Aussie 01-10-06 09:55 PM


Originally Posted by ed073
Crowey did tell me once on a hurt session out behind Cockatoo that I should be doing a 200km ride at LEAST twice a week......Err.....

"CRIKEY"!!!!!

thunder 01-10-06 09:58 PM


Originally Posted by ed073
less than 15 seconds

I would have thought Jamieson would have snagged a podium. I think his tting has gone backwards since his stint in France, or it has not progressed in a linear frame for someone at that age. He did he best 4000ip time almost 2 years ago I think.

Yoeki 01-10-06 10:00 PM


Originally Posted by ed073
Dunno....maybe he's the Aussie Chris Boardman?

I still remember him telling the AIS to jam it as their training methods weren't helping.....so he went off, found his own sponsors and trained himself (and got anorexia in the process). Gutsy move in the cliquey world of Aussie elite cycling.

Might he still feel the after effects of this move away from the Aus cycling clique today?

I had some correspondence with Dave Towle from America, he was managing O'Neil (i think i read he has a new manager) and he seemed to intimate that he was not happy with the lack of acknowledgement that O'Neil gets from the Aus cycling community.

thunder 01-10-06 10:11 PM

Anyone know why Mcgee was riding a Specialized in Brisbane crits last month.

I figure he got up too lat in Sydney and could not be bothered bike baggin his Lapierre or he had a problem in transit with it. Thus he borrowed the Specialized steed in Brisbane. What is the potential for a fragile athlete like Mcgee to do some structural damage in a crit with a bike that is fit in haste.

He was blocked in his new postion in the 20 km tour timetrial this year. And he often has back problems. Any expert opinions folks?

climbo 01-10-06 10:12 PM

he did !

Race 2 - January 11: U23 Men's Time Trial, 40 km
Results
Provisional
1 Shaun Higgerson (NSW)
2 Mark Jamieson (Tas)
3 Miles Olman (Qld)


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