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#3577
Should Be More Popular




Joined: Dec 2007
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From: Malvern, PA (20 miles West of Philly)
Bikes: 1986 Alpine (steel road bike), 2009 Ti Habenero, 2013 Specialized Roubaix
Regarding Campy, when I first got into cycling circa 1984, I was a starving college student and rode a budget Japanese Steel road bike (Shogun, the poor man’s Miyata). I read lots of “Bicycling” and “Winning” and was aware of campy, but it was not in my budget.
When I finally had a real job and enough cash to get a high quality bike, circa 1988, all the cycling press was Gaga over the Dura Ace 7400 groupset, so I ended up choosing that. I have pretty much been a Shimano guy since then.
When I finally had a real job and enough cash to get a high quality bike, circa 1988, all the cycling press was Gaga over the Dura Ace 7400 groupset, so I ended up choosing that. I have pretty much been a Shimano guy since then.
#3578
Klaatu..Verata..Necktie?




Joined: May 2007
Posts: 23,811
Likes: 17,244
From: SF Bay Area
Bikes: Litespeed Ultimate, Ultegra; Canyon Endurace, 105; Battaglin MAX, Chorus; Bianchi 928 Veloce; Ritchey Road Logic, Dura Ace; Cannondale R500 RX100; Schwinn Circuit, Sante; Lotus Supreme, Dura Ace
#3579
Not actually Tmonk




Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 17,357
Likes: 6,143
From: San Diego, CA
Bikes: road, track, mtb
My first road bike (around my BF join date) was a Centurion Dave Scott, powder coated eggplant purple, with Shimano 600 Arabesque, indexed DT shifters. anodized Araya rims. Man, that was a great bike! Bought it used (w paint and all) from a local, new/used, janky, frankenbike kinda bike shop in my home town. Good times.
That shop ruled, they took care of me when I was home as a collegiate racer and kept me operational and riding on a cheap collegiate budget. Glory days stuff.
That shop ruled, they took care of me when I was home as a collegiate racer and kept me operational and riding on a cheap collegiate budget. Glory days stuff.
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"Your beauty is an aeroplane;
so high, my heart cannot bear the strain." -A.C. Jobim, Triste
"Your beauty is an aeroplane;
so high, my heart cannot bear the strain." -A.C. Jobim, Triste
#3580
Senior Member




Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 29,481
Likes: 13,492
From: In the foothills of Los Angeles County
My friend who I met while doing laps of the bike path at Sepulveda basin, a 5 mile lap around a flood control basin, had an ugly purple Cannondale 3.0, I think. He had acquired it at a lawnmower shop where he took his lawnmower for repair. Someone had traded the bike for something and my friend traded his lawnmower for the bike.
He is the guy who introduced me to club riding. He later bought a Cannondale 2.8 in the same hideous purple color.
He is the guy who introduced me to club riding. He later bought a Cannondale 2.8 in the same hideous purple color.
#3581
Klaatu..Verata..Necktie?




Joined: May 2007
Posts: 23,811
Likes: 17,244
From: SF Bay Area
Bikes: Litespeed Ultimate, Ultegra; Canyon Endurace, 105; Battaglin MAX, Chorus; Bianchi 928 Veloce; Ritchey Road Logic, Dura Ace; Cannondale R500 RX100; Schwinn Circuit, Sante; Lotus Supreme, Dura Ace
My first road bike (around my BF join date) was a Centurion Dave Scott, powder coated eggplant purple, with Shimano 600 Arabesque, indexed DT shifters. anodized Araya rims. Man, that was a great bike! Bought it used (w paint and all) from a local, new/used, janky, frankenbike kinda bike shop in my home town. Good times.
That shop ruled, they took care of me when I was home as a collegiate racer and kept me operational and riding on a cheap collegiate budget. Glory days stuff.
That shop ruled, they took care of me when I was home as a collegiate racer and kept me operational and riding on a cheap collegiate budget. Glory days stuff.
Arabesque crankset:

6207 Crankset (on my 1985 Ironman)

My 1985 Ironman came originally with 6207 friction shifters and RD, but was updated somewhere in the last 40 years with 6208 indexed shifters and RD. But as happened to most 6208 shifters, the indexing tabs all broke off an it shifted badly either indexed or friction. SO I found 6207 friction shifters and RD.
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"Don't take life so serious-it ain't nohow permanent."
"Everybody's gotta be somewhere." - Eccles
"Don't take life so serious-it ain't nohow permanent."
"Everybody's gotta be somewhere." - Eccles
#3582
New here




Joined: Jul 2020
Posts: 15,552
Likes: 8,603
From: Tejas
Thrifty morning update, with cycling content:
We have an outside water spigot on the North side of the house. The handle broke years ago, and we don't use it much. You can still use a pliers to turn the water on/off, but apparently the handle that this was designed for is OLD OLD OLD (like from the 1970's), and they don't make them anymore. A few years ago mrs datlas asked a plumber to give an estimate for fixing this and he said something ridiculous like $500. I went to Home Depot and got a newer style handle (which does not quite fit) and a longer size screw and was able to "hack" the thing on with a locknut so it works now and only cost about $4 for the parts.
Next, the Toyota apparently needs a new cabin air filter. The dealer said it's $120. I bought the filter for $25 and took the 3 minutes to replace it.
So I somehow saved us about $600 today. I think I should use this as an excuse to buy $600 in bike schwag.
I think this reasoning makes sense, but the MOF may not see it that way.
We have an outside water spigot on the North side of the house. The handle broke years ago, and we don't use it much. You can still use a pliers to turn the water on/off, but apparently the handle that this was designed for is OLD OLD OLD (like from the 1970's), and they don't make them anymore. A few years ago mrs datlas asked a plumber to give an estimate for fixing this and he said something ridiculous like $500. I went to Home Depot and got a newer style handle (which does not quite fit) and a longer size screw and was able to "hack" the thing on with a locknut so it works now and only cost about $4 for the parts.
Next, the Toyota apparently needs a new cabin air filter. The dealer said it's $120. I bought the filter for $25 and took the 3 minutes to replace it.
So I somehow saved us about $600 today. I think I should use this as an excuse to buy $600 in bike schwag.
I think this reasoning makes sense, but the MOF may not see it that way.
#thrifty
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#3583
Not actually Tmonk




Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 17,357
Likes: 6,143
From: San Diego, CA
Bikes: road, track, mtb
(Slight "Well, actually..." quibble here. "Arabesque" usually refers to the 6200 series 600 components, with their fancy "engravings" on the parts. The Ironman bikes got the 6207 and later 600 series components, which look more like the first generation of the 7400 Dura Ace. Indexed shifting come out with the revised 6208 shifter and RD)My 1985 Ironman came originally with 6207 friction shifters and RD, but was updated somewhere in the last 40 years with 6208 indexed shifters and RD. But as happened to most 6208 shifters, the indexing tabs all broke off an it shifted badly either indexed or friction. SO I found 6207 friction shifters and RD.
__________________
"Your beauty is an aeroplane;
so high, my heart cannot bear the strain." -A.C. Jobim, Triste
"Your beauty is an aeroplane;
so high, my heart cannot bear the strain." -A.C. Jobim, Triste
#3584
Where else can you see the bed where Lawrence Welk was born, not to mention Wally, the world’s largest walleye?
It’s actually a fun place to ride for a while. Lots of nothing with very little traffic in many places. One morning we rode 10 miles on I-94. Got passed by maybe six vehicles. You know you’re finally coming to a town when you see a cluster of trees and possibly a water tower off in the distance. The sunflower and canola fields are beautiful. We were told that when the flax fields are in bloom they often look like lakes rippling in the breeze.
Life was rough there early on. Older cemeteries had a good number of graves of children who had died very, very young.
But it’s not for those who fear headwinds. During a week long supported tour in 2006 it took the GF and I an hour to cover 9 miles of moderately rolling terrain riding road bikes. I remember hitting only 12 mph going down hill in a tuck. While at the next rest stop, the SAG bus pulled up. It was full of riders who had succumbed to that 18 mile stretch.
It’s actually a fun place to ride for a while. Lots of nothing with very little traffic in many places. One morning we rode 10 miles on I-94. Got passed by maybe six vehicles. You know you’re finally coming to a town when you see a cluster of trees and possibly a water tower off in the distance. The sunflower and canola fields are beautiful. We were told that when the flax fields are in bloom they often look like lakes rippling in the breeze.
Life was rough there early on. Older cemeteries had a good number of graves of children who had died very, very young.
But it’s not for those who fear headwinds. During a week long supported tour in 2006 it took the GF and I an hour to cover 9 miles of moderately rolling terrain riding road bikes. I remember hitting only 12 mph going down hill in a tuck. While at the next rest stop, the SAG bus pulled up. It was full of riders who had succumbed to that 18 mile stretch.
Last edited by indyfabz; 05-25-26 at 12:31 PM.
#3585
climber has-been




Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 9,180
Likes: 6,069
From: Palo Alto, CA
Bikes: Scott Addict RC Pro & R1, Felt Z1
I finally convinced Mrs. tm, an omnivore, to make some vegan cookies.
Her first result: oatmeal + banana + dried fruit + walnuts. No added sugar. No flour. No milk/butter/egg (obv).

I think they are sooooo yummy. She thinks they taste awful. More for me.
Her first result: oatmeal + banana + dried fruit + walnuts. No added sugar. No flour. No milk/butter/egg (obv).

I think they are sooooo yummy. She thinks they taste awful. More for me.
Last edited by terrymorse; 05-26-26 at 10:33 AM.
#3586
Klaatu..Verata..Necktie?




Joined: May 2007
Posts: 23,811
Likes: 17,244
From: SF Bay Area
Bikes: Litespeed Ultimate, Ultegra; Canyon Endurace, 105; Battaglin MAX, Chorus; Bianchi 928 Veloce; Ritchey Road Logic, Dura Ace; Cannondale R500 RX100; Schwinn Circuit, Sante; Lotus Supreme, Dura Ace

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"Don't take life so serious-it ain't nohow permanent."
"Everybody's gotta be somewhere." - Eccles
"Don't take life so serious-it ain't nohow permanent."
"Everybody's gotta be somewhere." - Eccles
#3588
Super Modest



Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 25,397
Likes: 6,668
From: Central Illinois
Bikes: Trek Domane+x2, Trek Emonda
#3589
Klaatu..Verata..Necktie?




Joined: May 2007
Posts: 23,811
Likes: 17,244
From: SF Bay Area
Bikes: Litespeed Ultimate, Ultegra; Canyon Endurace, 105; Battaglin MAX, Chorus; Bianchi 928 Veloce; Ritchey Road Logic, Dura Ace; Cannondale R500 RX100; Schwinn Circuit, Sante; Lotus Supreme, Dura Ace
__________________
"Don't take life so serious-it ain't nohow permanent."
"Everybody's gotta be somewhere." - Eccles
"Don't take life so serious-it ain't nohow permanent."
"Everybody's gotta be somewhere." - Eccles
#3590
Super Modest



Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 25,397
Likes: 6,668
From: Central Illinois
Bikes: Trek Domane+x2, Trek Emonda
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#3591
climber has-been




Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 9,180
Likes: 6,069
From: Palo Alto, CA
Bikes: Scott Addict RC Pro & R1, Felt Z1
#3592
Gruppetto Bob




Joined: Sep 2020
Posts: 11,611
Likes: 11,802
From: Seattle-ish
Bikes: Orbea Orca, Bianchi Infinito & Campione de Mundo
Thrifty morning update, with cycling content:
We have an outside water spigot on the North side of the house. The handle broke years ago, and we don't use it much. You can still use a pliers to turn the water on/off, but apparently the handle that this was designed for is OLD OLD OLD (like from the 1970's), and they don't make them anymore. A few years ago mrs datlas asked a plumber to give an estimate for fixing this and he said something ridiculous like $500. I went to Home Depot and got a newer style handle (which does not quite fit) and a longer size screw and was able to "hack" the thing on with a locknut so it works now and only cost about $4 for the parts.
Next, the Toyota apparently needs a new cabin air filter. The dealer said it's $120. I bought the filter for $25 and took the 3 minutes to replace it.
So I somehow saved us about $600 today. I think I should use this as an excuse to buy $600 in bike schwag.
I think this reasoning makes sense, but the MOF may not see it that way.
We have an outside water spigot on the North side of the house. The handle broke years ago, and we don't use it much. You can still use a pliers to turn the water on/off, but apparently the handle that this was designed for is OLD OLD OLD (like from the 1970's), and they don't make them anymore. A few years ago mrs datlas asked a plumber to give an estimate for fixing this and he said something ridiculous like $500. I went to Home Depot and got a newer style handle (which does not quite fit) and a longer size screw and was able to "hack" the thing on with a locknut so it works now and only cost about $4 for the parts.
Next, the Toyota apparently needs a new cabin air filter. The dealer said it's $120. I bought the filter for $25 and took the 3 minutes to replace it.
So I somehow saved us about $600 today. I think I should use this as an excuse to buy $600 in bike schwag.
I think this reasoning makes sense, but the MOF may not see it that way.
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“A watt saved is a watt earned” 🚴🏻♂️
#3593
Gruppetto Bob




Joined: Sep 2020
Posts: 11,611
Likes: 11,802
From: Seattle-ish
Bikes: Orbea Orca, Bianchi Infinito & Campione de Mundo
Where else can you see the bed where Lawrence Welk was born, not to mention Wally, the world’s largest walleye?
It’s actually a fun place to ride for a while. Lots of nothing with very little traffic in many places. One morning we rode 10 miles on I-94. Got passed by maybe six vehicles. You know you’re finally coming to a town when you see a cluster of trees and possibly a water tower off in the distance. The sunflower and canola fields are beautiful. We were told that when the flax fields are in bloom they often look like lakes rippling in the breeze.
Life was rough there early on. Older cemeteries had a good number of graves of children who had died very, very young.
But it’s not for those who fear headwinds. During a week long supported tour in 2006 it took the GF and I an hour to cover 9 miles of moderately rolling terrain riding road bikes. I remember hitting only 12 mph going down hill in a tuck. While at the next rest stop, the SAG bus pulled up. It was full of riders who had succumbed to that 18 mile stretch.
It’s actually a fun place to ride for a while. Lots of nothing with very little traffic in many places. One morning we rode 10 miles on I-94. Got passed by maybe six vehicles. You know you’re finally coming to a town when you see a cluster of trees and possibly a water tower off in the distance. The sunflower and canola fields are beautiful. We were told that when the flax fields are in bloom they often look like lakes rippling in the breeze.
Life was rough there early on. Older cemeteries had a good number of graves of children who had died very, very young.
But it’s not for those who fear headwinds. During a week long supported tour in 2006 it took the GF and I an hour to cover 9 miles of moderately rolling terrain riding road bikes. I remember hitting only 12 mph going down hill in a tuck. While at the next rest stop, the SAG bus pulled up. It was full of riders who had succumbed to that 18 mile stretch.
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“A watt saved is a watt earned” 🚴🏻♂️
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“A watt saved is a watt earned” 🚴🏻♂️
#3594
The space coyote lied.



Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 48,866
Likes: 11,056
From: dusk 'til dawn.
Bikes: everywhere
Unfortunately Le Mans will likely be in-car cam feeds on YouTube, as I imagine you'll need some sort of subscription somewhere to see a live presentation with commentary and multiple cameras.
The Japanese Le Mans series had races races on YouTube live last season fingers crossed it's the same this season. Just last week my evenings became free enough for me to watch.
The Japanese Le Mans series had races races on YouTube live last season fingers crossed it's the same this season. Just last week my evenings became free enough for me to watch.
#3595
The space coyote lied.



Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 48,866
Likes: 11,056
From: dusk 'til dawn.
Bikes: everywhere
I observed Memorial Day in Prescott this year. The one in the Valley is just too much of a zoo, and they play that lame Lee Greenwood song super loudly.
The ceremony up here is much more somber and respectful IMO.

The ceremony up here is much more somber and respectful IMO.

#3596
Should Be More Popular




Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 46,297
Likes: 11,812
From: Malvern, PA (20 miles West of Philly)
Bikes: 1986 Alpine (steel road bike), 2009 Ti Habenero, 2013 Specialized Roubaix
#3597
Should Be More Popular




Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 46,297
Likes: 11,812
From: Malvern, PA (20 miles West of Philly)
Bikes: 1986 Alpine (steel road bike), 2009 Ti Habenero, 2013 Specialized Roubaix
#3598
Not actually Tmonk




Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 17,357
Likes: 6,143
From: San Diego, CA
Bikes: road, track, mtb
decided against the Surly Preamble. I think I want a Soma Double Cross instead. Sportier frame, something I'd enjoy riding more. Either bike is infinitely configurable, but I think there is a good chance that the Double Cross could last me a long time.... maybe forever?
rn I'm thinking 1x gravel group set with mechanical disc brake, and either a 44-46t front ring. tires that are more on the road side of the road/gravel continuum, but just enough bite for me to ride the odd path with it. rack on the rear.
end-game is a backup road bike / commute / grocery get / take Lily out / casual goof off ride bike. and daily driver training bike on the trainer before work, where it would get most of its use tbh
rn I'm thinking 1x gravel group set with mechanical disc brake, and either a 44-46t front ring. tires that are more on the road side of the road/gravel continuum, but just enough bite for me to ride the odd path with it. rack on the rear.
end-game is a backup road bike / commute / grocery get / take Lily out / casual goof off ride bike. and daily driver training bike on the trainer before work, where it would get most of its use tbh
__________________
"Your beauty is an aeroplane;
so high, my heart cannot bear the strain." -A.C. Jobim, Triste
"Your beauty is an aeroplane;
so high, my heart cannot bear the strain." -A.C. Jobim, Triste
#3599
Gruppetto Bob




Joined: Sep 2020
Posts: 11,611
Likes: 11,802
From: Seattle-ish
Bikes: Orbea Orca, Bianchi Infinito & Campione de Mundo
#3600
Klaatu..Verata..Necktie?




Joined: May 2007
Posts: 23,811
Likes: 17,244
From: SF Bay Area
Bikes: Litespeed Ultimate, Ultegra; Canyon Endurace, 105; Battaglin MAX, Chorus; Bianchi 928 Veloce; Ritchey Road Logic, Dura Ace; Cannondale R500 RX100; Schwinn Circuit, Sante; Lotus Supreme, Dura Ace







