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#1776
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From: Malvern, PA (20 miles West of Philly)
Bikes: 1986 Alpine (steel road bike), 2009 Ti Habenero, 2013 Specialized Roubaix
#1777
Klaatu..Verata..Necktie?




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From: SF Bay Area
Bikes: Litespeed Ultimate, Ultegra; Canyon Endurace, 105; Battaglin MAX, Chorus; Bianchi 928 Veloce; Ritchey Road Logic, Dura Ace; Cannondale R500 RX100; Schwinn Circuit, Sante; Lotus Supreme, Dura Ace
Another time, Rango and I once encountered a similar swarm, directly across our path. I heard the buzzing first, then noticed all the little flying thingummies. As we stood there, I noticed the swarm was moving slowly to our right, so we just waited till they were out of our way.
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#1778
Klaatu..Verata..Necktie?




Joined: May 2007
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From: SF Bay Area
Bikes: Litespeed Ultimate, Ultegra; Canyon Endurace, 105; Battaglin MAX, Chorus; Bianchi 928 Veloce; Ritchey Road Logic, Dura Ace; Cannondale R500 RX100; Schwinn Circuit, Sante; Lotus Supreme, Dura Ace
On our way back I saw a very cute cat in a window so I snapped a quick pic:

Right away, the next door neighbor rushed out and chewed me out for taking a picture and said my presence on their property was completely inappropriate. I did walk about 3 feet off the sidewalk onto the lawn, so I understand he was triggered but I am an old man who clearly does not pose a threat. He yelled a bit more, I apologized profusely and walked away.
I suppose it’s good that LA has gun control, or I may not have made it home alive.
Although we had a really good walk, there were almost zero other pedestrians out and about. Everyone is in their cars or houses. It’s sad because the outdoor weather is fantastic.
#nobodywalksinLA

Right away, the next door neighbor rushed out and chewed me out for taking a picture and said my presence on their property was completely inappropriate. I did walk about 3 feet off the sidewalk onto the lawn, so I understand he was triggered but I am an old man who clearly does not pose a threat. He yelled a bit more, I apologized profusely and walked away.
I suppose it’s good that LA has gun control, or I may not have made it home alive.
Although we had a really good walk, there were almost zero other pedestrians out and about. Everyone is in their cars or houses. It’s sad because the outdoor weather is fantastic.
#nobodywalksinLA

So far, Sheila hasn't noticed it.
Note: I took this pic surreptitiously, from the street. Nobody accosted me.
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#1779
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Joined: Jun 2022
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datlas: you have the unbelievable, once in a millenium privilege of having access to a Winchell's donuts shop in the same complex as a HoneyBaked Ham store. You've accidentally hit the Queen of all "Bi-Fectas." If I were in your shoes - and I hope I am not sounding too presumptuous - I would buy two glazed donuts from Winchell's and throw several slices delicious honey baked ham in between said Donuts. Like a sandwich. That's the very type of fuel that you'll need to win the big races. It's an honor to even write you about this.
#1780
So, the order of adjectives when two or more precede a noun? Basically, 'general to particular'; 'opinion to fact', etc. It is much more complex*, but that's in essence why we hear -- or should hear -- 'her amazing new black bike' as ok, but 'her black new amazing bike' as somehow 'wrong' or 'awkward' -- again, especially if English is our first language. As with your examples: 'black big dog' or 'suede old coat' would just sound 'off'.
In large part 'learning grammar' just is bringing those syntactical rules that govern the use and order of words in a language (any language) to consciousness, so to speak.
*If further interested in adjective order in English, here's a useful chart from Cambridge: https://dictionary.cambridge.org/gra...oogle_vignette
#1781
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From: Hudson Valley, NY
Bikes: Merlin Cyrene '04; Bridgestone RB-1 '92
I'm a naturally suspicious native New Yorker. The first time I approached the curb in LA and the traffic screeched to a stop, all I could think of was that they were trying to set me up. It was terrifying.
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#1782
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From: Hudson Valley, NY
Bikes: Merlin Cyrene '04; Bridgestone RB-1 '92
I'll have a blueberry muffin, please. A bag won't be necessary.
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#1783
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Joined: Jun 2002
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From: Central Illinois
Bikes: Trek Domane+x2, Trek Emonda
We pick that 'knowledge' (of syntactical rules) up instinctively during language acquisition, in the same way that we 'learn' that in English determiners (e.g. definite and indefinite articles) precede their nouns, hence 'the dog' is 'English', 'dog the' is not. We don't need to know consciously that English has that syntactical rule, but it does and we -- especially if English is our first language -- do 'know' it and simply follow it. We can't say 'why' 'dog the' is wrong, necessarily, but we know that it is. The nerdish among us find it interesting to understand 'why'!
So, the order of adjectives when two or more precede a noun? Basically, 'general to particular'; 'opinion to fact', etc. It is much more complex*, but that's in essence why we hear -- or should hear -- 'her amazing new black bike' as ok, but 'her black new amazing bike' as somehow 'wrong' or 'awkward' -- again, especially if English is our first language. As with your examples: 'black big dog' or 'suede old coat' would just sound 'off'.
In large part 'learning grammar' just is bringing those syntactical rules that govern the use and order of words in a language (any language) to consciousness, so to speak.
*If further interested in adjective order in English, here's a useful chart from Cambridge: https://dictionary.cambridge.org/gra...oogle_vignette
So, the order of adjectives when two or more precede a noun? Basically, 'general to particular'; 'opinion to fact', etc. It is much more complex*, but that's in essence why we hear -- or should hear -- 'her amazing new black bike' as ok, but 'her black new amazing bike' as somehow 'wrong' or 'awkward' -- again, especially if English is our first language. As with your examples: 'black big dog' or 'suede old coat' would just sound 'off'.
In large part 'learning grammar' just is bringing those syntactical rules that govern the use and order of words in a language (any language) to consciousness, so to speak.
*If further interested in adjective order in English, here's a useful chart from Cambridge: https://dictionary.cambridge.org/gra...oogle_vignette
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#1784
Should Be More Popular




Joined: Dec 2007
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From: Malvern, PA (20 miles West of Philly)
Bikes: 1986 Alpine (steel road bike), 2009 Ti Habenero, 2013 Specialized Roubaix
datlas: you have the unbelievable, once in a millenium privilege of having access to a Winchell's donuts shop in the same complex as a HoneyBaked Ham store. You've accidentally hit the Queen of all "Bi-Fectas." If I were in your shoes - and I hope I am not sounding too presumptuous - I would buy two glazed donuts from Winchell's and throw several slices delicious honey baked ham in between said Donuts. Like a sandwich. That's the very type of fuel that you'll need to win the big races. It's an honor to even write you about this.
#1785
Should Be More Popular




Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 46,162
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From: Malvern, PA (20 miles West of Philly)
Bikes: 1986 Alpine (steel road bike), 2009 Ti Habenero, 2013 Specialized Roubaix
We pick that 'knowledge' (of syntactical rules) up instinctively during language acquisition, in the same way that we 'learn' that in English determiners (e.g. definite and indefinite articles) precede their nouns, hence 'the dog' is 'English', 'dog the' is not. We don't need to know consciously that English has that syntactical rule, but it does and we -- especially if English is our first language -- do 'know' it and simply follow it. We can't say 'why' 'dog the' is wrong, necessarily, but we know that it is. The nerdish among us find it interesting to understand 'why'!
So, the order of adjectives when two or more precede a noun? Basically, 'general to particular'; 'opinion to fact', etc. It is much more complex*, but that's in essence why we hear -- or should hear -- 'her amazing new black bike' as ok, but 'her black new amazing bike' as somehow 'wrong' or 'awkward' -- again, especially if English is our first language. As with your examples: 'black big dog' or 'suede old coat' would just sound 'off'.
In large part 'learning grammar' just is bringing those syntactical rules that govern the use and order of words in a language (any language) to consciousness, so to speak.
*If further interested in adjective order in English, here's a useful chart from Cambridge: https://dictionary.cambridge.org/gra...oogle_vignette
So, the order of adjectives when two or more precede a noun? Basically, 'general to particular'; 'opinion to fact', etc. It is much more complex*, but that's in essence why we hear -- or should hear -- 'her amazing new black bike' as ok, but 'her black new amazing bike' as somehow 'wrong' or 'awkward' -- again, especially if English is our first language. As with your examples: 'black big dog' or 'suede old coat' would just sound 'off'.
In large part 'learning grammar' just is bringing those syntactical rules that govern the use and order of words in a language (any language) to consciousness, so to speak.
*If further interested in adjective order in English, here's a useful chart from Cambridge: https://dictionary.cambridge.org/gra...oogle_vignette
#1787
Should Be More Popular




Joined: Dec 2007
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From: Malvern, PA (20 miles West of Philly)
Bikes: 1986 Alpine (steel road bike), 2009 Ti Habenero, 2013 Specialized Roubaix
Here's Gaimon on Latigo cyn. datlas knows this climb.
LATIGO Canyon - Los Angeles Cycling Climb Feature p/b INSTA360 - YouTube
LATIGO Canyon - Los Angeles Cycling Climb Feature p/b INSTA360 - YouTube
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#1792
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#1793
Gruppetto Bob




Joined: Sep 2020
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From: Seattle-ish
Bikes: Orbea Orca, Bianchi Infinito & Campione de Mundo
If Garmin says your training is Unproductive, here is an explanation of how that metric is measured
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#1794
Gruppetto Bob




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Bikes: Orbea Orca, Bianchi Infinito & Campione de Mundo
Prior to my ride today, noticed the rear wheel was out of true and rubbing a rear pad. Whipped out my trusty spoke wrench and gave the nipple a turn, and another and another and no bite. It just kept spinning. Argh. Don’t know if the threads on the nipple or spoke are stripped - but will leave that to my lbs. So, got out an old wheel and began the process of removing the rear gear set from the fubar wheel to the new/old wheel. It went fine except the high and low set screws for the rear mech had to be adjusted - no biggie. Got it set and a quick test ride to confirm all was good. Loaded the bike on the back of the car and drove a few miles to the starting point. When there, I realized I hadn’t aired the front tire and decided to try the mini pump I have been packing around for 3 years but never used it. Worked it like a teenage boy’s first love and the pressure was underwhelming. So got out a CO2 and valves head, which I had never used and it worked great. OK, now finally rolling.
Started off, hit a bump and heard metal rattling Hmmm. Maybe the saddle bag was hitting the seat post - nope. Hit another bump, checked the skewers and they were tight. Rode a bit further and more metal jangling. Reached down and the rear cogs were loose - but you already knew that. So ride back to the car, head home, remove wheel to see about 1mm of gap - eventhough the locking nut was tight. Since it’s been three years since I swapped the gears between wheels, I forgot that this wheel required an additional spacer - which I had. Whipped out the chain whip - again - added the spacer and the bugles of heaven sounded. So had to adjust the set screws, put the bike away and called it a day.
Ride stats - 2.5 miles and 49’ climbing. Max watts - 518 until things blew up. I logged the ride as a race and was rewarded with this:

Started off, hit a bump and heard metal rattling Hmmm. Maybe the saddle bag was hitting the seat post - nope. Hit another bump, checked the skewers and they were tight. Rode a bit further and more metal jangling. Reached down and the rear cogs were loose - but you already knew that. So ride back to the car, head home, remove wheel to see about 1mm of gap - eventhough the locking nut was tight. Since it’s been three years since I swapped the gears between wheels, I forgot that this wheel required an additional spacer - which I had. Whipped out the chain whip - again - added the spacer and the bugles of heaven sounded. So had to adjust the set screws, put the bike away and called it a day.
Ride stats - 2.5 miles and 49’ climbing. Max watts - 518 until things blew up. I logged the ride as a race and was rewarded with this:

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#1799
Gruppetto Bob




Joined: Sep 2020
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From: Seattle-ish
Bikes: Orbea Orca, Bianchi Infinito & Campione de Mundo
Heading out this AM for a club ride with 10 or so people for 50ish miles and 3K of climbing. Weather should be in the mid to high 60s which is ideal. Am NOT bringing the troublesome bike (Orbea)) because it needs a time out to think about the grief it/me caused yesterday, so am taking the disc/k bike instead. The only brake rub I should hear there is a ting, ting until it sorts itself.
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“A watt saved is a watt earned” 🚴🏻♂️
Last edited by rsbob; 04-18-26 at 08:55 AM.
#1800
Klaatu..Verata..Necktie?




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I do eat some junk food and much less since shedding weight is no longer easy.- My preference is home made chocolate chip cookies, but draw the line at donuts - so no contribution on that un-holy topic. Used to love bear claws, but back then, I could skip a meal and drop two pounds.
Heading out this AM for a club ride with 10 or so people for 50ish miles and 3K of climbing. Weather should be in the mid to high 60s which is ideal. Am NOT bringing the troublesome bike (Orbea)) because it needs a time out to think about the grief it/me caused yesterday, so am taking the disc/k bike instead. The only brake rub I should hear there is a ting, ting until it sorts itself.
Heading out this AM for a club ride with 10 or so people for 50ish miles and 3K of climbing. Weather should be in the mid to high 60s which is ideal. Am NOT bringing the troublesome bike (Orbea)) because it needs a time out to think about the grief it/me caused yesterday, so am taking the disc/k bike instead. The only brake rub I should hear there is a ting, ting until it sorts itself.
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