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Smokehouse 10-07-15 08:14 AM

Well...submitting for the criticism once again. Yeah...I know, the bike positioning is off, this is the only picture I have a the moment. This was taken in the spring, went to a 5800 group with some new cables and bar tape...

Fire away...

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y42...psdroskn2n.jpg

DrIsotope 10-07-15 08:25 AM

I have generally ambivalent feelings about all newer Specialized bikes-- they all look inoffensively similar-- but there's something too matchy-matchy about this one. I'm a big fan of the accent color, and fully understand red-black-white as a theme, but this is taken perhaps too far. Ends up "busy." It is neither hot nor not hot, but something in between.

TenSpeedV2 10-07-15 08:38 AM


Originally Posted by Fiery (Post 18223307)
You must be thinking of the other thread.

Nope. This is the thread I am thinking of.

curtiseddie 10-07-15 08:52 AM


Originally Posted by DrIsotope (Post 18222726)

Bad ass wheels!

curtiseddie 10-07-15 08:58 AM


Originally Posted by TenSpeedV2 (Post 18223221)
New handlebars and another silver bottle cage will not redeem you.

Improper background
Improper side of bike to take a picture of
Improper position of tire valves in picture
Tires are not lined up with valves
Improper crank arm positioning
Bar angle is odd
Stem angle is too high
Saddle
Saddle bag
Saddle bag light

The bike has potential, but in the current picture, it is extremely far from a hot.

Whoa. I was not aware of so many pic requirements. Thanks for the info.

Now I know never to post a bike pic without my pro photographer. :)

TenSpeedV2 10-07-15 09:03 AM


Originally Posted by curtiseddie (Post 18223910)
Whoa. I was not aware of so many pic requirements. Thanks for the info.

Now I know never to post a bike pic without my pro photographer. :)

By photographing it correctly, it shows off how nice your bike really is. They are not rules set in stone, but I have seen people chastised in both Hot R Not threads for not following it. Some of that stuff is just normal stuff, like tires lining up with the valves.

Even a plain bike will look really nice when properly shot. Not my bike, just used for an example.

http://brimages.bikeboardmedia.netdn...er_Full_DS.jpg

Smokehouse 10-07-15 09:07 AM


Originally Posted by DrIsotope (Post 18223797)
I have generally ambivalent feelings about all newer Specialized bikes-- they all look inoffensively similar-- but there's something too matchy-matchy about this one. I'm a big fan of the accent color, and fully understand red-black-white as a theme, but this is taken perhaps too far. Ends up "busy." It is neither hot nor not hot, but something in between.

I can definitely see that...the red is a thing some don't like. In person, some compliment the package, some criticize it. I either get the "Man, I really like that red on there" or "Not so sure about that red accents..."

The frame was an odd duck Team Saxo race frame replica (given that it's not the S-Works)...so it is very busy, that's for sure. That's why I just ran with it and will openly admit that it is super busy...

jordanair45 10-07-15 10:14 AM


Originally Posted by DrIsotope (Post 18223797)
I have generally ambivalent feelings about all newer Specialized bikes-- they all look inoffensively similar-- but there's something too matchy-matchy about this one. I'm a big fan of the accent color, and fully understand red-black-white as a theme, but this is taken perhaps too far. Ends up "busy." It is neither hot nor not hot, but something in between.

I actually agree with you.

I will be back for redemption later :D

JaccoW 10-07-15 10:22 AM

Eat it lightweight boys :p

http://i.imgur.com/HXOAV.jpg

RJM 10-07-15 10:30 AM


Originally Posted by DrIsotope (Post 18222726)

Not.


Originally Posted by Smokehouse (Post 18223755)
Well...submitting for the criticism once again. Yeah...I know, the bike positioning is off, this is the only picture I have a the moment. This was taken in the spring, went to a 5800 group with some new cables and bar tape...

Fire away...

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y42...psdroskn2n.jpg

The red is too much...I'd go all white with black tires and stop trying to match the little red in the frame. Nice bike, but way too much red.

Originally Posted by JaccoW (Post 18224208)
Eat it lightweight boys :p

http://i.imgur.com/HXOAV.jpg

Nothing can help this look good.

indyfabz 10-07-15 10:56 AM


Originally Posted by JaccoW (Post 18224208)
Eat it lightweight boys :p

http://i.imgur.com/HXOAV.jpg

Nothing speedy, nimble or graceful (common characteristics of gazelles) about that.

indyfabz 10-07-15 10:59 AM


Originally Posted by johnyguy (Post 18222757)
that's the same color as my synapse

The couch or the bike?

LGHT 10-07-15 11:15 AM


Originally Posted by Smokehouse (Post 18223755)
Well...submitting for the criticism once again. Yeah...I know, the bike positioning is off, this is the only picture I have a the moment. This was taken in the spring, went to a 5800 group with some new cables and bar tape...

Fire away...

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y42...psdroskn2n.jpg

Get rid of the 2 color grip tape either red or white, but not both and red tires? Seems like you really like the color red and are really trying to add it to the bike so it just comes off as desperate.

Has potential, but it’s a NOT as is.

Smokehouse 10-07-15 11:29 AM


Originally Posted by LGHT (Post 18224380)
Get rid of the 2 color grip tape either red or white, but not both and red tires? Seems like you really like the color red and are really trying to add it to the bike so it just comes off as desperate.

Has potential, but it’s a NOT as is.

"desperate"? Nah, I don't think I'd call it that...it's a bike, I like having fun with it. The bar tape is something I can screw around with...I started out with white/black tires orgingally:
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y42...psc0f37f5f.jpg

It just didn't pop much so I decided to have fun with it. I ran this tape last year:
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y42...psf6c75c03.jpg
It was "loud", I got a kick out of it.

This year was the Supakaz red/white transitioning tape...just for the heck of it. I'll probably go back to white next year.

LGHT 10-07-15 11:33 AM


Originally Posted by Smokehouse (Post 18224415)
"desperate"? Nah, I don't think I'd call it that...it's a bike, I like having fun with it. The bar tape is something I can screw around with...I started out with white/black tires orgingally:
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y42...psc0f37f5f.jpg

Wow that was so much better. I hear you on the make it "Pop" thing that seems to be the fad now and days. Lots of kids die their hair funny colors, and buy bright colorful clothes. Some even get jobs at clowns in a circus ;0)

Smokehouse 10-07-15 11:37 AM


Originally Posted by LGHT (Post 18224424)
Wow that was so much better. I hear you on the make it "Pop" thing that seems to be the fad now and days. Lots of kids die their hair funny colors, and buy bright colorful clothes. Some even get jobs at clowns in a circus ;0)

LOL...I don't take myself too seriously. I'm a 38 year old guy with slight man boobs that dresses in cycling clothes that may be illegal within 50' of a public grade school...I gave up on fancy cars years ago, my bike is my only real "toy" I can mess around with.

On a side note...while the Supacaz tape is really neat stuff (the red portion is actually a completely different material than the white so the drops have more grip/less pad then the tops), I won't get the red/white again...It's not my favorite.

SpeshulEd 10-07-15 12:54 PM


Originally Posted by TenSpeedV2 (Post 18223929)
Even a plain bike will look really nice when properly shot. Not my bike, just used for an example.

http://brimages.bikeboardmedia.netdn...er_Full_DS.jpg

I'm not sure I'd all that a "plain" bike. Hot.

Also, regarding the specialized...the new crankset looks fantastic, the red tires not so much. I won't fault the bar tape because I'm a fan of the supacaz stuff myself (still, I might opt for the black with the red print option for next time).

growlerdinky 10-07-15 01:12 PM

http://i1183.photobucket.com/albums/...2017.20.48.jpg

The wifes bike.

Fox Farm 10-07-15 01:43 PM


Originally Posted by TenSpeedV2 (Post 18223929)
By photographing it correctly, it shows off how nice your bike really is. They are not rules set in stone, but I have seen people chastised in both Hot R Not threads for not following it. Some of that stuff is just normal stuff, like tires lining up with the valves.

Even a plain bike will look really nice when properly shot. Not my bike, just used for an example.

http://brimages.bikeboardmedia.netdn...er_Full_DS.jpg

I dig this! Hot!

johnyguy 10-07-15 07:34 PM


Originally Posted by indyfabz (Post 18224325)
The couch or the bike?

Da bike☺

TenSpeedV2 10-07-15 11:37 PM


Originally Posted by SpeshulEd (Post 18224647)
I'm not sure I'd all that a "plain" bike. Hot.

Also, regarding the specialized...the new crankset looks fantastic, the red tires not so much. I won't fault the bar tape because I'm a fan of the supacaz stuff myself (still, I might opt for the black with the red print option for next time).


Originally Posted by Fox Farm (Post 18224806)
I dig this! Hot!

I think this is hotter than hell. I wish it was mine, but it is just something I found on the interwebznet.

kbarch 10-08-15 03:53 AM


Originally Posted by TenSpeedV2 (Post 18223929)
By photographing it correctly, it shows off how nice your bike really is. They are not rules set in stone, but I have seen people chastised in both Hot R Not threads for not following it. Some of that stuff is just normal stuff, like tires lining up with the valves.

Even a plain bike will look really nice when properly shot. Not my bike, just used for an example.

http://brimages.bikeboardmedia.netdn...er_Full_DS.jpg

I disagree.
It seems to me that the purpose of standardized, static and clinical photos like this is that they make for fair comparisons. They present the frame, wheels and components in a way that makes them as clear as possible in a single view, to facilitate scrutiny. However, these views often fail to capture a bike's overall appeal, and often make bikes look more plain than they would when experienced normally.
What we can tell from the photo above is that the bike has a finely constructed frame, expensive components, and gorgeous red paint. The set-up is classic, but frankly, aside from the paint, it's not the least bit eye-catching or charming. The photo may reveal it to be a high-quality bike, but it's far from 'hot.'
And by the way, the tires are misaligned a bit - valve aligns with 'M' in 'COMPETITION' in the rear, and is between the first 'T' and 'I' in the front - not centered in either case.

indyfabz 10-08-15 04:52 AM


Originally Posted by growlerdinky (Post 18224703)

Not bad, but not hot. The bike, I mean.

Silvercivic27 10-08-15 05:28 AM


Originally Posted by JaccoW (Post 18224208)
Eat it lightweight boys :p

http://i.imgur.com/HXOAV.jpg

He's from the Netherlands so that's actually a picture of his car.

TenSpeedV2 10-08-15 08:35 AM

I like how the branding says Gazelle, when it is anything from light, fast and nimble. To each their own though.


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