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kbarch 10-08-15 09:31 AM


Originally Posted by TenSpeedV2 (Post 18226675)
I like how the branding says Gazelle, when it is anything from light, fast and nimble. To each their own though.

Maybe it weighs as much and is about as easy to ride as a gazelle.

SpeshulEd 10-08-15 11:25 AM

To be fair, it looks like a fun little bike to ride around town.

Bunyanderman 10-09-15 06:34 PM

Try and ignore the mixed chainring bolts, eliminating the red ones soon, also useless stem spacers.
http://i59.tinypic.com/538s1v.jpg

Doug28450 10-09-15 06:43 PM


Originally Posted by Bunyanderman (Post 18231082)
Try and ignore the mixed chainring bolts, eliminating the red ones soon, also useless stem spacers.
Err, give me a sec

fail :)

Bunyanderman 10-09-15 06:48 PM


Originally Posted by Doug28450 (Post 18231104)
fail :)

I was hoping no one noticed.....

redlude97 10-09-15 07:03 PM


Originally Posted by Bunyanderman (Post 18231082)
Try and ignore the mixed chainring bolts, eliminating the red ones soon, also useless stem spacers.
http://i59.tinypic.com/538s1v.jpg

Pretty close but why the mismatched cables? Also rotate the bars down

GlennR 10-09-15 07:08 PM

The drops are huge.... not sure how long I could stay there.

Yes i do... zero seconds.

Bunyanderman 10-09-15 07:22 PM


Originally Posted by redlude97 (Post 18231154)
Pretty close but why the mismatched cables? Also rotate the bars down

It's relatively difficult to replace these cables, not something I can do at home. Bike shop is a 2-hour round trip drive, seems pretty stupid to make a trip for only that.

GlennR 10-09-15 07:25 PM


Originally Posted by Bunyanderman (Post 18231196)
It's relatively difficult to replace these cables, not something I can do at home. Bike shop is a 2-hour round trip drive, seems pretty stupid to make a trip for only that.

Agreed... wait till they need replacement.

1 hour away, time to get some tools and up your skills. It's not like if you run into problems you can't toss the bike in the car and get it fixed.

Bunyanderman 10-09-15 07:30 PM


Originally Posted by oldnslow2 (Post 18231206)
Agreed... wait till they need replacement.

1 hour away, time to get some tools and up your skills. It's not like if you run into problems you can't toss the bike in the car and get it fixed.

I actually do most of the work that needs to be done on my bike, ranging from easy stuff like using carbon paste and properly torquing bolts, to completely adjusting the drive train/swapping components. I have re-done cabling before, but I tried on this aero frame and it was impossible with out a huge magnet to pull the cables through (internally routed). But I have no interest in getting the tools/knowledge to build/adjust wheels, and I stay away from the Bottom bracket, especially difficult with this frame and crank-set.

GlennR 10-09-15 07:32 PM


Originally Posted by Bunyanderman (Post 18231222)
I actually do most of the work that needs to be done on my bike, ranging from easy stuff like using carbon paste and properly torquing bolts, to completely adjusting the drive train/swapping components. I have re-done cabling before, but I tried on this aero frame and it was impossible with out a huge magnet to pull the cables through (internally routed). But I have no interest in getting the tools/knowledge to build/adjust wheels, and I stay away from the Bottom bracket, especially difficult with this frame and crank-set.

Before removing the old cable, tape a thin string to it and when you pull the cable out the string takes it's place. Tape the new cable to the engine and put the string to drag the new cable through.

Easy peasy.

SpeshulEd 10-09-15 07:35 PM


Originally Posted by Bunyanderman (Post 18231222)
I actually do most of the work that needs to be done on my bike, ranging from easy stuff like using carbon paste and properly torquing bolts, to completely adjusting the drive train/swapping components. I have re-done cabling before, but I tried on this aero frame and it was impossible with out a huge magnet to pull the cables through (internally routed). But I have no interest in getting the tools/knowledge to build/adjust wheels, and I stay away from the Bottom bracket, especially difficult with this frame and crank-set.

What about tying dental floss to the end of the cable and then sucking that through with a vacuum?

Also, totally random, but I read this week that if you only use one bottle you should put it on the seat tube because it's more aero. (Of course, I still think it looks better on the down tube).

All in all, not bad.

Bunyanderman 10-09-15 07:36 PM


Originally Posted by oldnslow2 (Post 18231226)
Before removing the old cable, tape a thin string to it and when you pull the cable out the string takes it's place. Tape the new cable to the engine and put the string to drag the new cable through.

Easy peasy.

I wish it was that simple when I got the frame, I bought the frame used and it came completely bare. No cable guides installed, the guy at the shop said that was the first time he got to use a giant magnet to help him on a bike. The right brake housing (black above) actually runs through the whole top tube, not just the cable runs through. The shop said that was a little tricky to maneuver the whole housing through part of the frame.


Originally Posted by SpeshulEd (Post 18231234)
What about tying dental floss to the end of the cable and then sucking that through with a vacuum?

Also, totally random, but I read this week that if you only use one bottle you should put it on the seat tube because it's more aero. (Of course, I still think it looks better on the down tube).

All in all, not bad.

Couldn't get the vacuum to suck the floss, the rd cable enters near the handle bars and exits at the rear skewer, to far for a success for me.

Actually on this frame, you have the option to move the cage/bottle a notch down on the down tube. According to their engineers, that is the most aero spot for a water bottle on this frame. You can see the 5th water bottle bolt a couple of inches below cage in the picture. I did put the cage there for a few races, but it's a stretch to grab the bottle, I am afraid that I will drop a bottle during a race on that lower option.

GlennR 10-09-15 07:38 PM


BoSoxYacht 10-09-15 07:40 PM


Originally Posted by SpeshulEd (Post 18231234)
Also, totally random, but I read this week that if you only use one bottle you should put it on the seat tube because it's more aero. (Of course, I still think it looks better on the down tube).

Old news.

Who uses only one bottle(other than pros with domestiques to support them)?

Bunyanderman 10-09-15 07:44 PM

A crit racer.

SpeshulEd 10-09-15 07:57 PM


Originally Posted by BoSoxYacht (Post 18231249)
Old news.

Who uses only one bottle(other than pros with domestiques to support them)?

I did this week to and from work. Still put the bottle on the downtube.

GlennR 10-09-15 07:57 PM


Originally Posted by BoSoxYacht (Post 18231249)
Old news.

Who uses only one bottle(other than pros with domestiques to support them)?

I do unless it's really hot. On Long Island, its easy to get a refill since there are stores and delli's everywhere.

ravenmore 10-10-15 10:17 PM


Originally Posted by BoSoxYacht (Post 18231249)
Old news.

Who uses only one bottle(other than pros with domestiques to support them)?

I do too depending on distance and location. Anything under 30 miles and I usually just do one bottle.

jordanair45 10-11-15 12:37 PM

Can't believe I am doing this for an online crowd, but I was e-hurt. :(

I've come back for redemption!

I just threw on the seat real quick for the picture, so forgive it for not being set perfect.

http://i.imgur.com/xEbRsMD.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/d9CYcy3.jpg

bianchi10 10-11-15 01:27 PM


Originally Posted by jordanair45 (Post 18234133)
Can't believe I am doing this for an online crowd, but I was e-hurt. :(

I've come back for redemption!

I just threw on the seat real quick for the picture, so forgive it for not being set perfect.


Came back for redemption and yet....
"I just threw on the seat real quick for the picture, so forgive it for not being set perfect"

You should get a not just from the lack of effort. You are taking a picture and presenting it for judgement/voting. The least you can do is take some effort in its presentation.

But I cant just give you a Not based on slapping a saddle on without effort, so I'll give you a Not for not taking any effort in presentation at all. Bike is basic and nothing that would get a second look. That being said, this thread is specifically for judgment on aesthetics. Hope you get lots of fun riding on it. Next time, just take some time to present the bike better.

DrIsotope 10-11-15 01:39 PM

VALVE STEM CAPS!! Oh my. Half black and half white cables? Interesting.

And is it just me, the bad photograph, or is the top of the fork dirty/greasy?

For me, these posts as as much about composition as they are about the bike. Neither of these photos prominently feature the bike as the subject.

Also, cropping. Portrait orientation for a landscaped subject? C'mon. I love having to scroll vertically for a photo 1/2 the width of the screen.

GlennR 10-11-15 01:40 PM


Originally Posted by jordanair45 (Post 18234133)
Can't believe I am doing this for an online crowd, but I was e-hurt. :(

I've come back for redemption!

I just threw on the seat real quick for the picture, so forgive it for not being set perfect.

It's a saddle.

SpeshulEd 10-11-15 02:39 PM

Rough crowd. You've made some excellent changes though. The bar tape, saddle, bottle cages, and drive side photo are all steps in the right direction.

If you level the saddle, change the front quick release lever so it's on the other side, and photograph it in soft lighting, it'd look a lot better.

kbarch 10-11-15 02:49 PM


Originally Posted by SpeshulEd (Post 18234320)
Rough crowd. You've made some excellent changes though. The bar tape, saddle, bottle cages, and drive side photo are all steps in the right direction.

If you level the saddle, change the front quick release lever so it's on the other side, and photograph it in soft lighting, it'd look a lot better.

Except for the bit about the lighting (which I like), I agree. Although I don't care for the Allez (or much of anything Spesh, for that matter), and the presentation is still sloppy, the choices/changes are all fine. Well, not fine as in fine dining or haute cuisine, but like a nice plate of pasta and sauce.


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