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joejack951 04-04-17 12:55 PM


Originally Posted by TenSpeedV2 (Post 19488516)
The gumwalls look like an afterthought and it really takes away from the bike overall.

Poppycock :p


Originally Posted by kbarch (Post 19488532)
That helps, but mostly I like the way it shows off the taper of the head tube and the general shapeliness of the frame.

The bulging head tube is my least favorite part of this frame. The downtube also looks too big from the front, but alas, that's what you get with a modern carbon frame.


Originally Posted by ravenmore (Post 19488574)
Good looking build. Personally I don't like the saddle angle, gumwall tires, and not sure how I feel about the white saddle/bar tape/cable housing.

Wait, what do you like then? ;)


Originally Posted by redfooj (Post 19488920)
I think this is one of the best examples of skinwalls because they pair on rims with some fair depth and they set a pop from the stealth look.

Being that red and black is a pretty sinister combo that would have made for a great accent instead of white. That would be 9.7

Someone gets my skinwall choice! I'll ignore the comments about how red would have made this bike better.


Originally Posted by noodle soup (Post 19488954)
Not a fan of the white housings, cages, or hubs.

Those handlebars look tiny

Disc brakes look hideous on road bikes

Boo! The handlebars are pretty short and shallow. The upside is I get to run a 110mm stem (vs. 100mm, you know, for a better score in this thread) and I have plenty of saddle to bar drop at the hoods (for a better score, and it's quite comfortable for me) while still having usable drops. They are very similar to the Ritchey Classics I have on my Trek and those work very well for me. Less compact drops would likely have required I go to the next size up frame to make them usable (which is how I used to build my bikes) but I like the aesthetics of the smaller frame that the compact bars allow, among the other functional traits. The discs are function over form, but I'm not offended by them either.

noodle soup 04-04-17 05:00 PM


Originally Posted by joejack951 (Post 19489033)
Boo! The handlebars are pretty short and shallow. The upside is I get to run a 110mm stem (vs. 100mm, you know, for a better score in this thread) and I have plenty of saddle to bar drop at the hoods (for a better score, and it's quite comfortable for me) while still having usable drops. They are very similar to the Ritchey Classics I have on my Trek and those work very well for me. Less compact drops would likely have required I go to the next size up frame to make them usable (which is how I used to build my bikes) but I like the aesthetics of the smaller frame that the compact bars allow, among the other functional traits. The discs are function over form, but I'm not offended by them either.

I'm just picking nits here.

I like the bike, but there are some things I would have done differently. The stem length/handler/frame size choice is one, but I understand your reasoning.

Disc brakes look strange to me on road bikes, but probably because I have no need for them. It rarely rains here. They look fine on the Disc Trucker I'm borrowing from a friend.

I sorta like the tire choice, but prefer the darker color that Continental uses on their GP Classics.

GuitarBob 04-04-17 06:05 PM

Looks great, nice work. I think I'd prefer black housing too, but who knows... and those campag levers are hideous, but that's not your fault ;)


Originally Posted by joejack951 (Post 19486471)


noodle soup 04-04-17 06:20 PM


Originally Posted by GuitarBob (Post 19489684)
those campag levers are hideous, but that's not your fault ;)

the levers are mounted a little lower than I would prefer.

noodle soup 04-04-17 06:49 PM


Originally Posted by noodle soup (Post 19489576)

I sorta like the tire choice, but prefer the darker color that Continental uses on their GP Classics.

this is what I'm talking about

http://i402.photobucket.com/albums/p...pssve2anjy.jpg

Fiery 04-05-17 04:14 AM


Originally Posted by lsberrios1 (Post 19487456)
Cut the steerer tube and now it's completely slammed. I wish I had a more agressive stem but FSA does not make an 8* or 12* degree stem and I like the match of bars, stem and seatpost. This has to be the most beautiful bike I've ever seen in the flesh. Including Colnago C60 tricolores etc. There is something about all the colors coming together that makes it beautiful in my eyes. It rides pretty good too :).

https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...66&oe=59611A82

Such a fun colour scheme, and a good overall setup. Count me as a fan, and I don't really like Specialized or Campagnolo in general.

joejack951 04-05-17 08:25 AM


Originally Posted by noodle soup (Post 19489576)
I'm just picking nits here.

Of course. All of my responses have been in good fun. I love how the bike turned out so that's what matters.


Originally Posted by noodle soup (Post 19489576)
I like the bike, but there are some things I would have done differently. The stem length/handler/frame size choice is one, but I understand your reasoning.

Disc brakes look strange to me on road bikes, but probably because I have no need for them. It rarely rains here. They look fine on the Disc Trucker I'm borrowing from a friend.

I sorta like the tire choice, but prefer the darker color that Continental uses on their GP Classics.

Yup, lots of personal preferences dictating the outcome. While the discs may look out of place, you can't argue that the seat stay/seat tube junction and fork crown don't look super clean, though, right?

I'm curious how those darker sidewalls would look. But Continental doesn't make them in a tubular so for these wheels, I'll be sticking with the Vittorias.

joejack951 04-05-17 08:29 AM


Originally Posted by noodle soup (Post 19489710)
the levers are mounted a little lower than I would prefer.

I might have nudged them a tiny bit higher, too, but they are pushed all the way to the top of the 'no-slip grit' on the drops already. I think if I went any further I'd start running into the 'tops' section of the bars and my levers would get angled all wonky. I could rotate the bars up just a tad as suggested by others to correct the appearance there. But I know I won't like the resulting angle of the drops. So torn...

vdub6541 04-05-17 01:44 PM


Originally Posted by lsberrios1 (Post 19487456)

Hot. Love the paint.

mpath 04-05-17 01:51 PM


Originally Posted by lsberrios1 (Post 19487456)
This has to be the most beautiful bike I've ever seen in the flesh.

https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...66&oe=59611A82

Then you need to get out more. :D Check out Two Hubs or Veloholic's Facebook pages.

goenrdoug 04-05-17 02:22 PM


Originally Posted by mpath (Post 19491450)
Then you need to get out more. Check out [web] pages.

oh, the irony.

lsberrios1 04-05-17 02:27 PM


Originally Posted by mpath (Post 19491450)
Then you need to get out more. :D Check out Two Hubs or Veloholic's Facebook pages.

to be quite honest, this bike does not photograph well (or the photographer sucks). I have seen many beautiful bikes and I will have to say that to me, this is the best setup I've seen. it does not ride as good as others might but as far as looks it's great.

nycphotography 04-05-17 03:10 PM


Originally Posted by lsberrios1 (Post 19491524)
to be quite honest, this bike does not photograph well (or the photographer sucks). I have seen many beautiful bikes and I will have to say that to me, this is the best setup I've seen. it does not ride as good as others might but as far as looks it's great.

What about it doesn't ride as well, and compared to what, and why?

Bathwater 04-05-17 03:16 PM

That Tarmac is hot as f. The paint job is unique and intricate without looking busy or gaudy and the setup is on point. If it were my bike, I'd ditch the gumwalls and swap out the cages for Tacx Devas, but it still looks great regardless.

lsberrios1 04-05-17 03:43 PM


Originally Posted by nycphotography (Post 19491619)
What about it doesn't ride as well, and compared to what, and why?

I guess "doesn't ride as well" might not be the most accurate / objective term. Basically it's a matter of preference and taste. The campy is something that definitely takes some getting used to. When I compare it to my TCR I find the TCR to be a little more responsive and feels lighter on its feet. The tarmac may be a bit more comfy but the TCR just feels like it wants to be ridden hard while also being very comfy. That tarmac as pictured comes in at 13.8lbs. I think it might be too light for me @ 165lbs. The wheels are not as stiff as I would like them to be, they are only 1,190g for the pair.

It comes down to taste. I acknowledge that the build is top notch and not a single detail was spared but when it comes down to my flavor of bike, the TCR takes the edge in overall feel.

I race the TCR so I push it to its limits more often, the Tarmac I ride on beautiful Sunny Sunday afternoons to go drink coffee 50 miles away from home. The TCR I beat up senseless.

Does that make any sense?

mpath 04-05-17 03:45 PM


Originally Posted by goenrdoug (Post 19491513)
oh, the irony.

...not lost. In jest, hence :D

mpath 04-05-17 03:46 PM


Originally Posted by lsberrios1 (Post 19491524)
to be quite honest, this bike does not photograph well (or the photographer sucks). I have seen many beautiful bikes and I will have to say that to me, this is the best setup I've seen. it does not ride as good as others might but as far as looks it's great.

Fair enough. Good looking bike. My nitpick...a zero setback seatpost would probably work well, given your saddle position.

nycphotography 04-05-17 04:51 PM


Originally Posted by lsberrios1 (Post 19491700)
That tarmac as pictured comes in at 13.8lbs. I think it might be too light for me @ 165lbs. The wheels are not as stiff as I would like them to be, they are only 1,190g for the pair.

Does that make any sense?

perfect sense.

what wheels and tires are on it?

lsberrios1 04-05-17 09:26 PM


Originally Posted by nycphotography (Post 19491822)
perfect sense.

what wheels and tires are on it?

Mavic Ksyrium Pro Carbon SL with 22mm Vittoria Corsa G+ tubulars. Those wheels are more suited to <140lbs riders looking to climb gaps, not a classics kinda body. I kinda wish i would have opted for the Cosmic Ultimates

ravenmore 04-07-17 07:16 PM

Finally upgraded the dang cranks.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...psizv1nrao.jpg

noodle soup 04-07-17 07:32 PM


Originally Posted by ravenmore (Post 19496662)

the crankset looks good, now what about that computer mount?

garciawork 04-07-17 07:42 PM

Complete (for now) Lynskey
 
2 Attachment(s)
Just threw the Novembers on it a couple days ago, yet to have time to ride (discovered mold mid remodel, been otherwise occupied...).

Lynskey R150 disc
Enve road disc fork
Enve carbon handlebar
Thmoson Masterpiece post
November Select+ Disc w/ White Industries CLD hubs blue, Kinlin XR31TS rims, tubeless
Mostly 105 group with the 685 hydraulic shifter/brake combo
Brooks C15 carved

slowjamz 04-07-17 11:15 PM


Originally Posted by joejack951 (Post 19486471)

this bike would look so sweet with a brown brooks c13 (don't think they make it) and some brown leather bartape.

kbarch 04-08-17 06:02 AM


Originally Posted by slowjamz (Post 19496999)
this bike would look so sweet with a brown brooks c13 (don't think they make it) and some brown leather bartape.

Now that's imagination! :)

ravenmore 04-08-17 07:02 AM


Originally Posted by noodle soup (Post 19496687)
the crankset looks good, now what about that computer mount?

I'm getting a Garmin at some point. Just showing I changed the cranks. I didn't feel like messing with removing this computer for a quick pic. :D


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