The Aussie Thread- Part 2
#3276
Ochayethenoo
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From: Green Point, NSW
Bikes: Lemond MJ Classic, Klein Palomino, Felt TK2 Track, Daccordi vintage
Originally Posted by PaulBravey
Can anyone translate 'sooky' for me?
#3278
Senior Member
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Hi folks, I posted this question in the rr forum, hope you do not mind me cutting and pasting it here
What happened to Jay Sweet, 30 this year, he should be winning TDF bunch kicks and coming into his own.
One tour with Big MAt Auber 95, which lost Auber struggled to pay wages and became div 2 Big Mat. I think he had another season after his tour year, then in div 2 proper, assuming Auber were only a dvi 2 like Casino/AG2R. He went to ? Saturn or MBK Oktos then, then finished with Oktos in France I think.
This bloke had speed, won a Tour L'Aviner stage, and some other small Frenchies, beating Kirsipuu in his prime, among others. Blokes he beat like JPN (Nazon) are smoking come tour time.
My questions are, how quick was he? What were his problems? Why is he not on a ProTour team now?
Is it the Quaranta effect, Quaranta quick enough to win Giro stages in his early twenties, does not have the strength now to be a road race sprinter. Might be a good track points/scratch/madison man. Now even when he won Giro stages, they would have been Piano for most of the 150-180 k, with Cipo on the lookout for belle donnas, and marshalling those on the front to slow down. Or did Sweet struggle with the disciplines and cultural barriers so far from Aus, hypothetically speaking if the Protour was ridden in Aus would he be ripping it up?
Corey Sweet is doing well with Comnet Senges in Germnay. I think Credit Agricole gave him short shrift and a dud racing program because he was a Stewie ring-in. He is good enough to win Coup de France races. His brother was good enough to win the seaon Coup de France I think. Kirsipuu never goes over the mountains in the tour, and Sweet was hanging on to the Red Lantern there.
What happened to Jay Sweet, 30 this year, he should be winning TDF bunch kicks and coming into his own.
One tour with Big MAt Auber 95, which lost Auber struggled to pay wages and became div 2 Big Mat. I think he had another season after his tour year, then in div 2 proper, assuming Auber were only a dvi 2 like Casino/AG2R. He went to ? Saturn or MBK Oktos then, then finished with Oktos in France I think.
This bloke had speed, won a Tour L'Aviner stage, and some other small Frenchies, beating Kirsipuu in his prime, among others. Blokes he beat like JPN (Nazon) are smoking come tour time.
My questions are, how quick was he? What were his problems? Why is he not on a ProTour team now?
Is it the Quaranta effect, Quaranta quick enough to win Giro stages in his early twenties, does not have the strength now to be a road race sprinter. Might be a good track points/scratch/madison man. Now even when he won Giro stages, they would have been Piano for most of the 150-180 k, with Cipo on the lookout for belle donnas, and marshalling those on the front to slow down. Or did Sweet struggle with the disciplines and cultural barriers so far from Aus, hypothetically speaking if the Protour was ridden in Aus would he be ripping it up?
Corey Sweet is doing well with Comnet Senges in Germnay. I think Credit Agricole gave him short shrift and a dud racing program because he was a Stewie ring-in. He is good enough to win Coup de France races. His brother was good enough to win the seaon Coup de France I think. Kirsipuu never goes over the mountains in the tour, and Sweet was hanging on to the Red Lantern there.
#3280
sundy hopeful
Joined: Feb 2005
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From: Sydney, Australia
Bikes: Connondale MTB, Malvern Star (historic) Orbea, GT (newest)
Originally Posted by climbo
here it is finally...ready to go with lights and all for tomorrow's commute.
#3281
Aluminium Crusader :-)

Joined: Apr 2004
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From: Melbourne, Australia
Originally Posted by climbo
here it is finally...ready to go with lights and all for tomorrow's commute.
#3282
Aluminium Crusader :-)

Joined: Apr 2004
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From: Melbourne, Australia
Originally Posted by berny
All ready but without pedals???
#3283
the pedals are hard to see on my monitor at work too.... but yes, they are on there. With that eye for detail, I'm surprised you didn't pick up on the top mount bar levers.
Campag man I am, yep. Heavy, yeah, reasonably heavy I suppose but I have a light on and a full saddle bag. I have not actually weighed it properly.
Campag man I am, yep. Heavy, yeah, reasonably heavy I suppose but I have a light on and a full saddle bag. I have not actually weighed it properly.
#3284
Ochayethenoo
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From: Green Point, NSW
Bikes: Lemond MJ Classic, Klein Palomino, Felt TK2 Track, Daccordi vintage
Originally Posted by climbo
the pedals are hard to see on my monitor at work too.... but yes, they are on there. With that eye for detail, I'm surprised you didn't pick up on the top mount bar levers.
Campag man I am, yep. Heavy, yeah, reasonably heavy I suppose but I have a light on and a full saddle bag. I have not actually weighed it properly.
Campag man I am, yep. Heavy, yeah, reasonably heavy I suppose but I have a light on and a full saddle bag. I have not actually weighed it properly.
I say make bikes heavier to set the center of gravity based on the weight of the person riding it....
#3285
Originally Posted by pshaw
Heavy.. schmevy... The 5 weetbix you eat for breakfast will counteract any benefits of a light bike!
I say make bikes heavier to set the center of gravity based on the weight of the person riding it....
I say make bikes heavier to set the center of gravity based on the weight of the person riding it....

#3286
Ochayethenoo
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From: Green Point, NSW
Bikes: Lemond MJ Classic, Klein Palomino, Felt TK2 Track, Daccordi vintage
Originally Posted by climbo
5 weet-bix? Come one, how am I suposed to stay in trim racing condition on that much food intake. 

they have started to grade the road part way through the forest down to the section behind bi-lo!! Hope they dont do the whole forest!Anway, made my way up to the main hut and headed down towards your place... found a section of singletrack linking the 2 lookouts which had a little gap jump built.... then followed the nyari lookout trail down and folowed an old downhillish type trail which came out at the same point we entered from Bronzewing! Lots of drop off / off camber slippy green rocks!!!
Well the point of all that was to entice you and yoiur new light into a night ride this week? How does tue or wed sound?
PS: Discovery Channel 20:30 docu about Lance & the technology behind him....
#3288
A few of you guys areup from the Newy area, was wondering if anyone had ridden Killingworth?
Looking at making the trip up this weekend, was just wondering what to expect there and also if there were any highlights of the place that should be ridden?
cheers
g
Looking at making the trip up this weekend, was just wondering what to expect there and also if there were any highlights of the place that should be ridden?
cheers
g
#3289
Sarcopenia: Living Decay
Joined: May 2005
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Check out the article on Vandenbroucke in yesterdays edition of cyclingnews.
https://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?...un05/jun26news
https://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?...un05/jun26news
#3290
Sarcopenia: Living Decay
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...and Luke Roberts has been included in CSC's start list for the Tour.
#3291
Ochayethenoo
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From: Green Point, NSW
Bikes: Lemond MJ Classic, Klein Palomino, Felt TK2 Track, Daccordi vintage
Originally Posted by HDTVKSS
A few of you guys areup from the Newy area, was wondering if anyone had ridden Killingworth?
Looking at making the trip up this weekend, was just wondering what to expect there and also if there were any highlights of the place that should be ridden?
cheers
g
Looking at making the trip up this weekend, was just wondering what to expect there and also if there were any highlights of the place that should be ridden?
cheers
g
#3292
Industry Maven

Joined: Oct 2003
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From: Wherever good bikes are sold
Bikes: Thylacines...only Thylacines.
Originally Posted by climbo
here it is finally...ready to go with lights and all for tomorrow's commute.
#3293
Originally Posted by jock
...and Luke Roberts has been included in CSC's start list for the Tour.
I see Gatesy got left out though.
#3294
Sarcopenia: Living Decay
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Originally Posted by Thylacine
Will Matty White make it to the first stage? - Yes, he's had a year to practice not falling off.
#3296
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Originally Posted by climbo
record # of Aussies this year?
I see Gatesy got left out though.
I see Gatesy got left out though.
#3297
you listed about 12, including Scott Sunderland (?)
Sounds like a bumper crop anyway... Should be a good year again, here's hoping we get in the thick of the GC action too.
Sounds like a bumper crop anyway... Should be a good year again, here's hoping we get in the thick of the GC action too.
#3298
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From: Melbourne, Australia
Bikes: Trek 5200 and 8000
Originally Posted by berny
All ready but without pedals???
#3299
Sarcopenia: Living Decay
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Originally Posted by climbo
you listed about 12, including Scott Sunderland (?)
Confirmed are:
Baden Cooke (fdjeux.com)
Bradley McGee (fdjeux.com)
Stuart O'Grady (Cofidis)
Michael Rogers (Quick Step-Davitamon)
Robbie McEwen (Lotto-Domo)
Cadel Evans (Lotto-Domo)
Luke Roberts (CSC)
Still to be confirmed:
Allan Davis (Liberty Seguros) - PROBABLE
Matthew White (Cofidis) - PROBABLE
Matthew Wilson (fdjeux.com) - UNLIKELY
Matthew Hyman (Ribbon) OUTSIDE CHANCE
Goooone:
Nick Gates (Lotto-Domo) BUGGER
Henk Vogels (Lotto-Domo) NEVER HAD A CHANCE
Scott Sunderland (Alessio-Bianchi) NEVER HAD A CHANCE
#3300
Ochayethenoo
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From: Green Point, NSW
Bikes: Lemond MJ Classic, Klein Palomino, Felt TK2 Track, Daccordi vintage
Originally Posted by HDTVKSS
Sunday probably.
Jock, did anyone race the handicap on Sunday?



